The Official Brexit Thread - The Transition Period.

[skomaz]

3 hours ago, paulkennedy said:

 

As for providing "evidence" bloody well grow up and stop parroting the same old line. If YOU disagree with anyone's comment then YOU provide evidence to prove what YOU believe to be true. That's how debating and discussion works I'm sorry if it's too complicated for you.

 

Hi @paulkennedy,

 

Just for info (in case you weren't aware) the request for evidence stems from a number of previous discussions on this thread where Remainers have consistently asked for evidence or links for comments from Brexiters, the mods demanding such evidence be provided and then sanctioning those that haven't provided it.

 

The same evidence requirement / sanctions doesn't always appear to have applied to statements and comments from Remainers - hence the ongoing consistent request from Brexiters for a 'level playing field'.

 

You simply seem to have fallen into the melee...

Edited 31 January, 2020 by skomaz
Changed Leaver to Remainer... Doh!

[Skoda_newby]

6 minutes ago, skomaz said:

 

Hi @paulkennedy,

 

Just for info (in case you weren't aware) the request for evidence stems from a number of previous discussions on this thread where Leavers have consistently asked for evidence or links for comments from Brexiters and the mods demanding such evidence be provided and then sanctioning those that haven't provided it.  The same evidence requirement / sanctions doesn't always appear to have applied to statements and comments from Leavers - hence the ongoing consistent request from Brexiters for a 'level playing field'.

 

You simply seem to have fallen into the melee...

 

What's the difference between a leaver and a Brexiter?

[skomaz]

1 minute ago, Skoda_newby said:

 

What's the difference between a leaver and a Brexiter?

 

Doh! - meant to say Remainer not Leaver...   edited

[CWARD]

22 minutes ago, WolfyWesty said:

 

I suspect people who celebrate the departure won't be in the mindset to give a toss about others

 

(to which I mean they'll be a few beers deep)

probably not but they have the right to celebrate just like those who were against protested causing disruption and plenty of noise. That’s the society we live in. 
 

Whatever you do tonight, have a good weekend 

[Skoda_newby]

1 minute ago, CWARD said:

probably not but they have the right to celebrate just like those who were against protested causing disruption and plenty of noise. That’s the society we live in. 
 

Whatever you do tonight, have a good weekend 

 

Thank you, and you too. I'm feeling very positive about the future. I do love this country and I will do all I can to make it better.

[Ootohere]

There is to the end of the year to see just how the negotiations on Free Movement goes between the UK and EU countries.

 

Lots to be sorted there and the rather important bit is going to be the Free Movement between the UK & RoI.

Previous agreements do seem rather past the date for 'Fit for purpose'.   

Obviously those established in either of the countries, Well England, Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland or the Irish State should not need to have any change of status but those looking to reside and work even temporarily from 2021 should fall under the same rules as other EU Countries citizens and the UK ones IMO.

Edited 31 January, 2020 by Roottootemblowinootsoot

[CWARD]

19 minutes ago, Skoda_newby said:

 

Thank you, and you too. I'm feeling very positive about the future. I do love this country and I will do all I can to make it better.

Me too

[CWARD]

12 minutes ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

There is to the end of the year to see just how the Free Movement goes between the UK and EU countries.

 

Lots to be sorted there and the rather important bit is going to be the Free Movement between the UK & RoI.

Previous agreements do seem rather past the date for 'Fit for purpose'.   

Obviously those established in either of the countries, Well England, Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland or the Irish State should need to have any change of status but 

those looking to reside and work even temporarily should fall under the same rules as other EU Countries citizens and the UK ones IMO.

Do you mean like the Common Travel Area agreement between the Ireland and the UK which has existed since 1923 and amendments in 2008 and 2011 that effectively controls the movement of people over the border including those coming into Ireland from within the EU and outside. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Travel_Area

[Ootohere]

@CWARD

Exactly.

1923 being before the EU came about and 2008 and 2011 while the UK & the RoI were in the EU.

Tomorrow is a significantly different can of worms.

Then the other places near to the UK need some sorting out.  IoM, Channel Isles.

 

Someone needs to be paying for services the UK provide for them or can be called on like military protection.

[KenONeill]

4 minutes ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@CWARD

Exactly.

1923 being before the EU came about and 2008 and 2011 while the UK & the RoI were in the EU.

Tomorrow is a significantly different can of worms.

Then the other places near to the UK need some sorting out.  IoM, Channel Isles.

 

Someone needs to be paying for services the UK provide for them or can be called on like military protection.

In this context you might first name part of the UK that was invaded and held by the Axis during WW2.

[CWARD]

6 minutes ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@CWARD

Exactly.

1923 being before the EU came about and 2008 and 2011 while the UK & the RoI were in the EU.

Tomorrow is a significantly different can of worms.

Then the other places near to the UK need some sorting out.  IoM, Channel Isles.

 

Someone needs to be paying for services the UK provide for them or can be called on like military protection.

This is why Ireland never signed up to the Schengen Agreement to maintain the CTA. Predates the EU and updated to maintain its will of joint freedoms enjoyed by both nations. 
 

The Irish border issue is more to do with goods and protecting the EU than movement of people. Not to worry Vardakar has enjoyed been sat at the top table, deflecting from the problems at home, probably have a nice job lined up within the EU after losing the GE. 

[lol-lol]

Good news / Bad news

 

Good news that the EU-Japan has been such a success.

Bad news that the UK is not part of the EU from 2300 GMT/ 0000 CET.

https://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/press/index.cfm?id=2107

 

 First year of EU-Japan Economic Partnership Agreement shows growth in EU exports

 

1 February 2020 marks the first anniversary of the entry into force of the EU-Japan Economic Partnership Agreement (EPA). In the first ten months following the implementation of the agreement, EU exports to Japan went up by 6.6% compared to the same period the year before. This outperforms the growth in the past three years, which averaged 4.7% (Eurostat data). Japanese exports to Europe grew by 6.3% in the same period.  Commissioner for Trade Phil Hogan commented: “The EU-Japan trade agreement is benefitting citizens, workers, farmers and companies in Europe and in Japan. Openness, trust and a commitment to established rules help deliver sustainable growth in trade. The EU is and will continue to be the largest and most active trading block in the world. The EU is a trusted bilateral partner to more than 70 countries, with whom we have the biggest trading network in the world.”

Certain sectors have seen even stronger export growth over the same period:

• Meat exports increased by 12%, with a 12.6% increase for pork exports, and frozen beef exports have more than tripled.
• Dairy exports were up by 10.4% (including a 47% increase in butter exports).
• Beverages exports went up by 20%, with 17.3% growth in wine exports.
• Leather articles exports and apparel have seen an increase of 14% and 9.5%, respectively.
• Electrical machinery exports, such as telecommunications equipment, storage devices and electronic circuits went up by 16.4%.

The EU-Japan EPA offers new opportunities for EU businesses of all sizes to export to Japan. It removes the vast majority of the €1 billion in duties that were charged annually on EU exports to Japan. Once the agreement is fully implemented, Japan will have scrapped customs duties on 97% of goods imported from the EU and annual trade between the EU and Japan could increase by nearly €36 billion.

[Ootohere]

@KenONeill

People need to give up on harking back to something that was over 75 years ago.

Life moves on.  Countries get wealthy and need to get on, and play fair and live within their means.

[KenONeill]

11 minutes ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@KenONeill

People need to give up on harking back to something that was over 75 years ago.

Life moves on.  Countries get wealthy and need to get on, and play fair and live within their means.

Physician, first heal yourself.

[Ootohere]

@KenONeill

You are too smart for me, take your superior brain / IQ and maybe explain for someone not as well read or educated as you.

 

PS.

Got you now.  As usual you mis-quote.

Edited 31 January, 2020 by Roottootemblowinootsoot

[shyVRS245]

Nice to see everyone is getting along today so perhaps in 8 hours time this thread can be left to the trolls to play with themselves.

[@Lee]

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Sad about Brexit? Here are all the ways it might actually benefit you

https://www.indy100.com/article/brexit-day-benefits-of-leaving-eu-9311001?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&#Echobox=1580482128

[lol-lol]

1 hour ago, Lee01 said:

https://www.indy100.com/article/brexit-day-benefits-of-leaving-eu-9311001?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&#Echobox=1580482128

 

1.  We will, eventually get our Duty Free Allowance back which will be much higher than since 1993.

 

2.  My company, and Ceva, DHL, Expeditors, Fed EX etc,  involved in customs declaration will make billions, per year !, out of BREXIT.  Big increase in turnover for customs fees for international logistics both in the UK and in France, Belgium, Holland and most EU27 for export, import and transit movements through UK to and from Ireland.

 

3. Ummm, can't think of a third thing.  Fish maybe ?  

 

Edited 31 January, 2020 by lol-lol

[J.R.]

Cheap booze cruise ferry tickets once again!!!!

 

I'm all up for that but not so keen on the resultant changed demographic of some of my clients.

 

Swings & roundabouts, it will be good news for the businesses around the channel ports as it once was before.

[moley]

5 hours ago, lol-lol said:

Good news that the EU-Japan has been such a success.

This success doesn't appear to be showing up in GDP growth.

Eurozone economy barely growing at all

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51327611

[lol-lol]

2 minutes ago, moley said:

This success doesn't appear to be showing up in GDP growth.

Eurozone economy barely growing at all

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51327611

 

In today's world even standing still is a major achievement.

We will see how GDPs are effected by BREXIT thru 2020 and 2021, time will tell.

 

The dislocation that Corona virus is causing.....

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/01/31/markets-plummet-dow-drops-over-600-points-as-coronavirus-infections-outpace-sars/#60627a885ddc

 

Markets Plummet, Dow Drops Over 600 Points As Coronavirus Infections Outpace SARS

 

 

The stock market plunged on Friday after major U.S. airlines suspended travel to China and investors worry about the impact of the fast-spreading coronavirus on the global economy.

 

• Stocks plunged on Friday with the Dow Jones Industrial Average falling by 2.1%, the S&P 500 by 1.8% and the Nasdaq Composite by 1.6%. The Dow posted its worst single-day drop since August 2019—and fifth-biggest drop ever,  

 

[lol-lol]

UK speeding out of the EU...........

 

[CWARD]

49 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

In today's world even standing still is a major achievement.

We will see how GDPs are effected by BREXIT thru 2020 and 2021, time will tell.

 

The dislocation that Corona virus is causing.....

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/01/31/markets-plummet-dow-drops-over-600-points-as-coronavirus-infections-outpace-sars/#60627a885ddc

 

Markets Plummet, Dow Drops Over 600 Points As Coronavirus Infections Outpace SARS

 

 

The stock market plunged on Friday after major U.S. airlines suspended travel to China and investors worry about the impact of the fast-spreading coronavirus on the global economy.

 

• Stocks plunged on Friday with the Dow Jones Industrial Average falling by 2.1%, the S&P 500 by 1.8% and the Nasdaq Composite by 1.6%. The Dow posted its worst single-day drop since August 2019—and fifth-biggest drop ever,  

 

 

FFS are you for real? Standing still is an achievement! At all other times even the slightest negative impact on the UK economy and you’re all over it with the doom and gloom.

 

Well in just over half hour we’ll be out of the EU and if Lol-lol sticks to his word he will leave this shores for Spain or Ireland debut more it’s just more bluster

[lol-lol]

Just now, CWARD said:

 

FFS are you for real? Standing still is an achievement! At all other times even the slightest negative impact on the UK economy and you’re all over it with the doom and gloom.

 

Well in just over half hour we’ll be out of the EU and if Lol-lol sticks to his word he will leave this shores for Spain or Ireland debut more it’s just more bluster

 

Not for a couple of years.  Got to making a killing setting up those customs system, yes funnel much of the money earned in to non-UK assets and then watch Rome/UK burn sipping something nice on the veranda of the villa. 

 

[VWD]

The train standing on platform ( find it yourself, the EU are still in discussion) , will leave for EU territory to convey those deciding to get out of th UK ,SHORTLY. cIRCA 2300 uk Time. Might be a good time to get on it.