Climate change

[Ootohere]

The sh-it is needed put back into the ground.  It also gets used to generate electricity or heat in some places.

 

Food is needed for eating, so if other countries rely more on farming it will be to feed people and to export to others.

It is not rocket science and if people want organic farming and to be vegan the ground still needs feed and improved.

 

Crops, waste and chicken litter, or sh-it as commonly known.

 

 

 

 

Edited 12 May, 2019 by Skoffski

[@Lee]

3 hours ago, shyVRS245 said:

Farmer and TV Presenter confirms that methane from farm animals in the UK accounts for 5% of our greenhouse gases. Other countries who rely more on farming have higher figures than us. Source tonights Country File on the BBC.

Countries more reliant on farms produce more methane shocker

[shyVRS245]

8 hours ago, Lee01 said:

Countries more reliant on farms produce more methane shocker

Milk still available for £1 per 2 litres in the UK and no shortages in the supermarkets, shocker. More cows = more methane = more milk, shocker.

[SkodaVRS1963]

22 hours ago, Lee01 said:

So you deny climate change is a thing?
If so that backs up what I posted a few days ago Re wrexiters.

 

Of course it's rubbish.  And I suspect that you know that as well, it just doesn't fit whatever agenda you have today.

 

Draw a straight, horizontal line on a piece of paper; the line can be as long or as short as you want.

 

The line represents time with the far left of the line being the creation of Earth, the far right being Earth today.

 

You *cannot* even begin to draw two vertical lines across the horizontal line that would accurately represent the "scientific" timeframe that these very dangerous people are using as a yardstick to "prove" that the planet is warming up.

 

In other words, using 100 years worth of data (fiddled or not) over a period of several billion years to try and prove a point fails any data integrity test.  It would equally fail if I were trying to prove that the planet is actually cooling down using the same methodology......although there are scriptures out there from 700 years ago detailing how it was possible to grow grapes at this longtitude and latitude of the planet so maybe it is (try growing grapes in the UK today).

 

Lee, I suspect a big part of your problem is that you believe what the BBC tells you.  Trust me, they lie.  Habitually.

[@Lee]

19 minutes ago, SkodaVRS1963 said:

 

Lee, I suspect a big part of your problem is that you believe what the BBC tells you.  Trust me, they lie.  Habitually.

So coral reefs aren't dying, there's no massive deforestation wiping out habitats, there's no more CO2, CO or particulates and all the climatologists who agree that climate change is real are wrong and Loser from Bath is right?
Like I said. Wrexiters and climate change deniers are invariably the same people.
But what do experts know eh, loser from Bath?

[fatscoleymo]

'try growing grapes in the UK today'....

 

Well lots do - even as far north as Yorkshire - 

 

Fats

[KenONeill]

2 minutes ago, fatscoleymo said:

'try growing grapes in the UK today'....

 

Well lots do - even as far north as Yorkshire - 

 

Fats

Curiously enough, they did that a thousand years ago.

[fatscoleymo]

No doubt they did - and I am aware of that. Just pointing out that someone who claims to know understand climate change seemed unaware of the fact that there are many commercial Vinyards in the UK today..

 

Fats

 

 

 

[SkodaVRS1963]

31 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

So coral reefs aren't dying, there's no massive deforestation wiping out habitats, there's no more CO2, CO or particulates and all the climatologists who agree that climate change is real are wrong and Loser from Bath is right?
Like I said. Wrexiters and climate change deniers are invariably the same people.
But what do experts know eh, loser from Bath?

 

I'll rise above your insults.

 

But I repeat: if you have data that supports your cause then why do you need to doctor it?

 

It's actually a very simple question to which the only answer is "we don't need to doctor the data, it supports our cause".

 

You agree, surely?  Please tell me that you have grasped this basic fundamental concept of reasoning?

 

I have some data, it tells me x........why do I need to doctor it to tell me x?

[@Lee]

5 minutes ago, SkodaVRS1963 said:

 

I'll rise above your insults.

 

But I repeat: if you have data that supports your cause then why do you need to doctor it?

 

It's actually a very simple question to which the only answer is "we don't need to doctor the data, it supports our cause".

 

You agree, surely?  Please tell me that you have grasped this basic fundamental concept of reasoning?

 

I have some data, it tells me x........why do I need to doctor it to tell me x?

You haven't posted a link to the data to which you refer so how can I argue it?
Also, what was the insult, loser of Bath?
That's how you describe yourself is it not?
Furthermore, you don't need to use the word 'fundamental' directly after 'basic'. They mean the same thing.
Consider that one a free lesson  
 

[john999boy]

3 hours ago, Lee01 said:

Also, what was the insult, loser of Bath?
That's how you describe yourself is it not?

Maybe that is his description but I’m not too sure that you’re using it in a Briskoda way! 

 

Respect and facts will always win in the end.

[mac11irl]

Perhaps Loser of Bath should be interpretted as "one whose bath was lost"... as in, after a bathroom refit its now a shower with fancy spa hotel style monsoon settings in a wet room space? Or he is jokingly saying he delivers baths DPD Local fashion.. ie loses the deliveries..

 

I jest... to try and lighten the mood a tad...

 

 

 

[VWD]

22 hours ago, john999boy said:

Maybe that is his description but I’m not too sure that you’re using it in a Briskoda way! 

 

Respect and facts will always win in the end.

Sadly, some ( particularly one ) poster(s) have yet to grasp this fact. Or perhaps one poster is trying to set a record for either how many posts he gets locked or it's old socialist tactics. Bombard a meeting( or in this case posts) with that much garbage ,that moderates walk away.

[shyVRS245]

16 minutes ago, mac11irl said:

Perhaps Loser of Bath should be interpretted as "one whose bath was lost"... as in, after a bathroom refit its now a shower with fancy spa hotel style monsoon settings in a wet room space? Or he is jokingly saying he delivers baths DPD Local fashion.. ie loses the deliveries..

 

I jest... to try and lighten the mood a tad...

 

 

 

I was tempted to join in but only just served my latest ban for being naughty.

[Kandy]

Describing any gas has having a greenhouse effect is scientifically illiterate because that is not technically how it works.

 

It's as dumb as calling carbon dioxide - carbon, would you call water - double hydrogen?

 

But using the climate scam lingo:-

 

Yes CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

Yes Methane is a greenhouse gas.

Yes water vapour is a greenhouse gas!

 

CO2 may produce a mild and entirely beneficial slight warming, the effect is logarithmic, so if 400-800ppm produced 1C of warming, you'd then need 1600ppm for the next 1C. The alarmists know this so conjured up a theory of imaginary feedbacks that they claim will produce dangerous warming - this of course only exists in their models. Historically earth's CO2 increases LAG global warming, so if natural warming caused CO2 to increase, and CO2 increased caused warming - the earth would be lifeless by now. The biggest risk to life on earth is LACK of CO2, it is still dangerously low and most plant groups on earth genetically prefer up to 1200ppm (this is why greenhouse growers enrich CO2).

 

Methane can't have any significant effect, it's life is too short and it's quantity too low and the energy spectrum too overlapped.

 

Strangely the world has become sunnier, which is a better correlation with temperature than CO2, this is likely due to the sun (particle seeding, not strength).

 

If anyone believes the so called modern warm period is unusual, check out the Minoan, Roman and Medieval warm periods - all warmer than today, despite the climate scam industry's efforts to disappear, deny, cool, or localise the Medieval warm period, a scientific project has proven beyond doubt it was global and hot.

 

Yes grapes grow in the UK (this is more a case of selecting the right varieties than the climate), but does Barley grow in Greenland now?

 

In the UK at the end of the Roman warm period (400/450AD) the climate cooled so much that it became impossible to grow the same crops, and rain increased so much that roads that had existed for 100s of years first had to be banked up, then raised on stilts as the land became marsh.

 

Yes the climate always changes. Try reading Climate History and the Modern World by Hubert Lamb, and you might wake up to the fact that you are being lied to.

 

Even back in 1971 NASA thought if CO2 increased by a factor of 8 it might only produce 2C of warming.

 

https://vademecum.brandenberger.eu/pdf/klima/rasool_schneider_1971.pdf

 

The climate alarmist movement is a global totalitarian socialist coup attempt (Agenda 21, 2030) - witness the crazy proposed Green New Deal in the USA, it has nothing to do with climate.

[@Lee]

1 hour ago, Kandy said:

The climate alarmist movement is a global totalitarian socialist coup attempt (Agenda 21, 2030) - witness the crazy proposed Green New Deal in the USA, it has nothing to do with climate.

You sorta kinda weirdly tried to make some kinda weird sense right up until that tin foil hat shiz.
Then, when I re-read your post, it made no sense at all.

[shyVRS245]

In Florida the warmer weather is proving particularly harmful for mans best friend as warmer temperatures make Alligators hungrier. One 300 pound specimen was recently shot dead in a populated neighbourhood and found to contain at least the remains of 4 different dogs in it's stomach. You have been warned if you want to retire there (not me).

[Ootohere]

 

 

 

Edited 15 May, 2019 by Skoffski

[KenONeill]

@Kandy - If it helps any, I do sometimes talk about "oxygen dihydride", or "dihydrogen oxide".

[VWD]

@ken- I often wonder if the green lot are not putting enough "oxygen dihydride" in their distilled version of one of the more palatable aquas carbo hydrogen compound and ending up like a pair of continental composers- "Brams & Lhist" .

[Ryeman]

Rupert will employ anyone who can deliver any sort of audience..........intelligence, is regarded as a negative however.

His chief enabler -

https://www.desmogblog.com/andrew-bolt

[Ryeman]

What about Australia -

https://electrek.co/2019/05/25/climate-crisis-weekly-sea-levels/

[shyVRS245]

2 minutes ago, Ryeman said:

What about Australia -

https://electrek.co/2019/05/25/climate-crisis-weekly-sea-levels/

Might be a good time to pay the local Diving shop a visit and purchase a Snorkel just to be on the safe side. Boy Scouts are always prepared.

[@Lee]

4 minutes ago, Ryeman said:

What about Australia -

https://electrek.co/2019/05/25/climate-crisis-weekly-sea-levels/

Trumptards and climate deniers will just say 'ahh well, cobber. The desert needs some water anyway so fair dinkum'.

 

[Ryeman]

1 minute ago, Lee01 said:

Trumptards and climate deniers will just say 'ahh well, cobber. The desert needs some water anyway so fair dinkum'.

 

If only..........sadly we speak American these days and slavishly follow all the dopey trends.