Are there any calipers and carriers that bolt on from other VAG cars i was looking at a big brake kit but couldn't justify spending nearly £800. is there a more budget friendly option. I currently have the 288mm

Not 100% sure but since the mk1 and the mk2 had the same you’d think the mk3 would follow so maybe look into the mk1 Octavia vRS brake setup. The fronts are 312mm 5x100 and are plug and play. You can pick a set up from the bay for around the £100 mark.

On 14/01/2020 at 15:24, cm9876 said:

Are there any calipers and carriers that bolt on from other VAG cars i was looking at a big brake kit but couldn't justify spending nearly £800. is there a more budget friendly option. I currently have the 288mm

 

312mmx25mm vented front discs from the VW Golf MK4 (needs at least 16" wheels)

 

http://www.oemepc.com/vw/part_single/catalog/vw/markt/RDW/modell/GOLF/year/2003/drive_standart/405/hg_ug/615/subcategory/615030/part_id/3691680/lang/e

 

334mmx32mm vented front discs from the VW Golf MK4 (needs at least 17" wheels)

 

http://www.oemepc.com/vw/part_single/catalog/vw/markt/RDW/modell/GOLF/year/2003/drive_standart/405/hg_ug/615/subcategory/615045/part_id/3691680/lang/e

 

I've no idea whether these would fit the Skoda Fabia, but they might. The 312mm front discs would need at least 16" rims to clear the front brake calipers and the 334mm front discs would need at least 17" front rims to clear the front brake calipers. The 334mm front discs are clearly a lot more powerful than the 312mm front discs as the associated front brake calipers on the 334mm front discs are a two pot design whereas the front brake calipers on the 312mm front discs are only a one pot design.

Edited 18 January, 20206 yr by Carlston

I managed to find some Audi TT mk1 312mm caliper carriers for £20 they seem to fit. The calipers on the 6spd 110ps fabia are 288 and 312. New discs and pads arriving next week

The caliper istself it´s the same of the TT, you just need to swap carriers and dust covers.

6 minutes ago, CrisBora said:

The caliper istself it´s the same of the TT, you just need to swap carriers and dust covers.

Yes im just changing the carriers. I was just going to remove the dust cover. is a new one really necessary. Does the hub need to be removed to get it off 

nope, just the disc.

 

On 20/01/2020 at 17:43, CrisBora said:

nope, just the disc.

 

The TT caliper brackets are very slightly different. The one from fabia is half painted and the TT one is fully painted. I couldn't get the spring clip to stay on. The small tabs are on the inside on TT and outside on fabia

I have managed to upgrade to a 310mm setup. On the 6 speed fabia the calipers are the same as the A1 polo 6r 6c ibiza. I've used 312mm discs from the mk1 tt and green stuff pads that fit the 312mm brakes on the Ibiza cupra and A1. Pics to follow. Was very easy with the right Caliper brackets.

42 minutes ago, cm9876 said:

I have managed to upgrade to a 310mm setup. On the 6 speed fabia the calipers are the same as the A1 polo 6r 6c ibiza. I've used 312mm discs from the mk1 tt and green stuff pads that fit the 312mm brakes on the Ibiza cupra and A1. Pics to follow. Was very easy with the right Caliper brackets.

 

I've made a post containing all the required part numbers. Including stuff for  254mm rear brakes from the Polo WRC. You can get the calipers from ECS i think (google the part no's).

I've got a pair of 310/312mm calipers ready for mine to fit once i get round to rebuilding the suspension.

 

If you're moving from 256mm you'll need both the calipers and the carriers. Got my 312mm fronts second hand, calipers, carriers, and hoses all in for £44 + postage. They'll bolt right on with some disks and pads.

I was looking at upgrading the rears too as the fronts look huge compared to the rear

5 minutes ago, cm9876 said:

I was looking at upgrading the rears too as the fronts look huge compared to the rear

 

Just now, cm9876 said:

 

Looks smart, what front brakes did you get put on? Wasn't it the Golf Mk4 ones?

 

Did your fabia come with 288mm front brakes? I had a 110ps 1.0TSI DSG Monte as a loan car for a day and that had 256mm ones.

Maybe only the 6spd manual comes with 288?

 

Unfortunately these don't come with the carriers, but they are supposedly from the Polo WRC (according to Brembo's information anyway);

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-trw-parts/rear-brake-caliper-right/1j0615424e~trw/

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-trw-parts/rear-brake-caliper-left/1j0615423e~trw/

 

They're the correct colour at least, but annoyingly there's no information as to what thickness discs they fit. There are some which are 255x10mm solid, the polo WRC has 254x22mm vented.

I got my 310mm front calipers and carriers today, from a Polo 6R/6C GTI.

 

The Mk4 setup didnt work properly the calipers are a bit different. I did not want to change calipers as i have not done it before. not 100% sure how to bleed brakes. So i used the  my stock 288mm caliper from the 1.2 110ps 6 speed manual fabia. and just changed carriers, discs and pads.

 

The carrier was from a Polo 6r,6c 1.8GTI - BTW the slightly older 6r,6c 1.4GTI has a 288mm setup i believe

My stock caliper is the same part number as the Polo 310/288 setup

There seems to be limited options when it comes to 310mm discs. so i used 312mms from a mk1 tt/ mk1 octavia. 

https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/en/catalogue/disc/09-7880-11

im not sure what the difference between the 288 and 310 pads are. The outer pad seems to be 1mm longer. Not sure if they can be used interchangeably but i got 310 pads anyway.

 

Cars that have the same 310mm brakes are

Audi S1/A1

Polo 6R/6C 1.8GTI

Seat Ibiza 6p 1.8 Cupra

 

For the rear breaks here is a diagram of part numbers for the rear 254 brakes from a polo wrc. PR-1KD

https://nemigaparts.com/cat_spares/etka/volkswagen/po/747/615670/

 

The Golf mk4 gti has the same rear caliper and carrier as the polo wrc 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-MK4-GOLF-ANNIVERSARY-1999-2006-Rear-Right-Left-Brake-Calipers-New-RED/293273789169?hash=item44487ae2f1:g:fMIAAOSwXXBdoMty

 

Polo 310mm front

https://nemigaparts.com/cat_spares/etka/volkswagen/po/747/615400/

 

fabia 256 front

https://nemigaparts.com/cat_spares/etka/skoda/fab/797/615120/

 

fabia 288 front

https://nemigaparts.com/cat_spares/etka/skoda/fab/797/615000/

30 minutes ago, cm9876 said:

For the rear breaks here is a diagram of part numbers for the rear 254 brakes from a polo wrc. PR-1KD

https://nemigaparts.com/cat_spares/etka/volkswagen/po/747/615670/

 

Looks like i've got the same listing as you, just a different site:

 

Tarox offers discs and pads, they seem to be another popular brand, like Brembo.

Can't comment too much on mintex, what i thought was a warped disc (due to overheating, it took a LOT of -deliberately very excessive- hard downhill braking to experience minor brake fade, damn that smell was awful!) was actually a warped wheel bearing/hub, presumably caused by the same pothole that irreperably destroyed both the tyre and alloy that hit it.

Otherwise they performed well, the pads on the undamaged side had a good ~7mm left after about 20k miles of very hard use, the damaged side had 2mm on the outer pad and was at bare metal on the inner pad.. oops! Even like that i was still able to get ABS to kick in (albeit with a slight pull to one side).

Still haven't got that bearing/hub replaced, so i'm going lightly on my current set of brakes till i do! I'll only need about 5k-10k out of them before i install the 312mm set though. But it'd be nice to re-sell the original 256mm ones to someone else without nackering them completely...

 

The pads might be a different compound build, designed to work with the higher speeds of the 312mm brakes, i'd imagine the 288mm pads would be fine to use but the *might* be a touch grabby at lower speeds. Its best to get new pads with new discs anyway.

 

Interesting they only offer the 288mm brakes on the 6spd manual, unless it was on the 110ps 1.2 TSI DSG too, the 110ps monte i had for a day was the 1.0 TSI.

 

By any chance are you able to find out what ABS module is in the Fabia? It might be worth checking and altering the coding too so the ABS module can take into account the larger brakes (i've linked to a semi useful post on my thread).

 

30 minutes ago, cm9876 said:

The Golf mk4 gti has the same rear caliper and carrier as the polo wrc 

 

And they're red too  

 

Some carriers.. need painting though: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/153780432810

Edited 10 February, 20206 yr by FabiaGonzales

I found it hard to find pads only a few cars use the 312 pads s1/ibiza cupra/polo gti/TT mk2. Where as lots of cars use the 288 pads 

 

The golf 5 gti 345mm use the 288 pad

 

Maybe the carriers are different

 

Brembo and Mintex seem to only do OE replacement pads. These may have been fine as i had oe pads before.

Ive not looked at tarox. it only comes up with the 288 pads when searching for the polo gti.

The mk2 tt but only years 2011-14 have the same 310 pads.

I went for ebc green stuff pads. They have mixed reviews and were expensive RRP £99 but i found some on ebay for 75.

 

PS: now ive looked more into it. there are more options for pads when looking for pads for a mk2 tt 2011-14. The only difference between these and the polo 310 pads is that the tt pads have a wear sensor and the polo does not. Brembo do offer there xtra pads for the TT

 

310 pad

https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/en/catalogue/pad/P_85_148

 

288 pad

https://www.bremboparts.com/europe/en/catalogue/pad/P_85_075

 

Yes i have font potholes a nightmare last year. I have 17" alloys with low profile tyres 215/40/17. have gone through 6 tyres and an alloy on the front left.

 

I have recently installed eibach lowering springs. The car handles much better but thinking i maybe  should of done coilovers as one of my shocks is starting to leak. 

 

As for ABS coding i found this. im not sure if its needed as isnt abs monitored from wheel speed sensors. but abs did seem to kick in quickly last night but maybe its because the brakes are stronger. Better pads, bigger /better discs.

https://uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?t=68290&start=150#p538293

 

Fabia ABS part numbers

https://nemigaparts.com/cat_spares/etka/skoda/fab/797/614000/

 

I sold my VCDS stuff. im starting to regret it. i keep searching ebay for a new one 

 

The change over for brakes tends to be a power/weight break point, I can't comment for Audi, but VW seem to stick with anything over 99PS in small cars moves up from 256mm discs kit to 288mm disc kit, Skoda and SEAT seem to be a bit sloppy about this and that was part of why I replaced my wife's 2002 Polo with a 2015 1.2TSI 110PS Polo, the equivalent SEAT Ibiza was still being churned out with 256mm front discs and ATE FS111 callipers.