I run a 2017 Fabia tsi SEL 110.                 I was reading something today that referred to this generation of Fabias having rear disc brakes.  Fabias have had them at the front for a long time        but I  didnt realise       they were at the rear too. This is mainly good news for  me. The braking power should   be very good indeed  to cope with the extra power and weight of the car  and the brakes certainly seem to stop the car on a sixpence. I havent had disc brakes all round for many years since I had a Fiat 124 S  and they were very powerful. They should be maintenance free from memory, rather like the brakes on a push bike.

 

                      My only possible concern is the handbrake. Unless this is fitted with inbuilt drums the handbrake  can give trouble and can fail to hold the car on inclines if it works off the discs. I would imagine though that this has been catered for as it was a known problem years ago, I cannot say I have had any such problems though so it probably does operate off drums.

 

                             Any comments will be much appreciated.

 

            

 

Some do, some don't. Probably depends on engine power, so yours probably does. Have a look?

 They are just discs though, not drums within discs.

A 110ps TSI  Mk3 in the UK has Disc Brake all round and i believed even 60 ps MPI Mk3's had.

 

The maintenance required is the same as front discs, then there is the 'parking' brake which is not a drum in the rear brakes to consider.

 

It seems surprising that anyone that is checking their tyre pressures would not notice brake discs through the wheels.

Roottootemblow,

          

                              You are quIte right, i should have noticed. Have had the builders in so havent really concentrated on the car as i would have done normally. Disappointing about the parking brake working directly off the discs but there you go.

Any cars reported as having ran away on this forum after the brakes cooled down where bigger cars than a Fabia and with E-Brakes not Manual Parking Brakes.

If you're concerned about the handbrake, get into the habit of leaving the car in first. Been doing it since I passed my test about 15 years ago. On the odd occasion when leaving the car for long periods I've left it only in gear, no handbrake to stop any chance of binding. Unless it's a dsg, then ignore me 😆

If you look at the braking efficiency from the MOT braking test you would find that modern disk handbrakes work better than cars with inboard drum handbrakes.

 

If you want the brakes to work well long term then an annual strip, clean and regrease is best in the autumn.

 

Thanks AG Falco

Disk brakes do not appear to be standard on current 110 models - it’s a £100 option - I queried this exact point with a dealer.

 

I wonder if it was always thus?

^^^ Very Strange. 

 Even showing as an option @ £100 with a 95 ps Monte Carlo.   

Skoda really are taking the mick with penny pinching.

 

Edited 23 February, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

Perhaps hetty1 could have a look and confirm what is on hers?

I try not to assume gender because that is a minefield.  Never thought @hetty1  was a female though.

 

As far as i could see all the 1.2 TSI Fabia Mk3 in the UK got rear discs.   It would be nice to hear if anyone got one with rear drums.

With my 2016 1.2 TSI it was standard to have rear disks.

Was standard for rear drums on the 1.0 MPI engines back in 2016?

 

Found this from a 2015 Fabia brochure:-

 

Rear brakes: Disc brakes or drum brakes
with two self-adjusting brake shoes.

 

Thanks AG Falco

well, mine's got them

Happy to confirm that my 110 has got rear disc brakes.  I was surprised to read that Skoda are now listing them as an option, cant really see the logic. As a percentage of the OTR for a 110 its miniscule.

Hopefully Skoda are putting a nice coating on the rear drums now rather than what has been happening for decades now with the cosmetic corrosion on them in a matter of weeks and then alloys that can be very difficult to remove.

 

As to the rear discs they are pretty rubbish anyway and depending on where you live require discs being replaced far too often, not from use really just because they must be the cheapest VW Group can source.

I’ve noticed that the latest small VW Group cars have a darker paint on the drums and ribs on them, probably something from Mando or is it Manda!

Discs here on a 17 plate 1.2 TSI 90 combi. Was surprised, though, as I don't think it stops any better than our 2014 86 TSI combi with drums.

Rear discs as standard on both my 66 and 19 110 TSI SEs.

Don't know in other markets. In Spain it was standard on the 110ps version.

 

Not sure on current lineup though, as the 110ps is no longer available.

On 24/02/2020 at 17:11, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

Hopefully Skoda are putting a nice coating on the rear drums now rather than what has been happening for decades now with the cosmetic corrosion on them in a matter of weeks and then alloys that can be very difficult to remove.

 

As to the rear discs they are pretty rubbish anyway and depending on where you live require discs being replaced far too often, not from use really just because they must be the cheapest VW Group can source.

 

It seems that the OE discs that come from factory at non-coated. Interestingly, the VAG discs i bought are coated. They hadn't corroded after a year. The factory originals kept rusting up really badly even from just a single overnight shower.

 

My 90PS 1.2 TSI SEL+Colour Edition came with rear discs.

If the discs are coated with something, then surely after a very few applications of the brakes, it is worn off anyway isn't it? Drums would be a bit different given the visible part isn't subject to wear. The worst problems I've had with discs has been caused by sticky pads in the callipers causing oxidisation from overheating. That has also caused me massively reduced pad life, a matter of weeks.

Rear drums can be great.  Not VW Group ones.

They were a Service Item with Skoda until around and the drums were to be removed at major services to clean out dust.

If places bothered they might notice the broken spring which was common.

Then it got to no wheels removed and no drums yet still the Skoda Service Menu listed wheels removed and drum brakes inspected. Except that was done through the inspection hole if even that.

 

Was a Fabia or Citigo with Drum brakes and not take it for a drive and you get very sticky pads.

Do not remove the wheels every year and a wee smear of grease and the rear wheels are a rear pain to get off.

28 minutes ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

Rear drums can be great.  Not VW Group ones.

 

See also my parents' 52 Polo and my 56 Ibiza. Aside from the whining, after about 3-4 years or so the rear drum shoes would start sticking with the handbrake on overnight, particularly after rain. Until a complete rear brake service sorted things a few years later, I kept a copper-headed hammer in the boot to wallop its lug nuts when the shoes got stuck.

1 hour ago, ettlz said:

rear drum shoes would start sticking with the handbrake on overnight,

 

Especially if the first thing you did was drive backwards.

Always go forward first, even if it is for a short distance.

 

Thanks AG Falco

has anyone retrofitted the rear disc brakes to a drum brake model? I have a salvage car with rear disc 2019 1.0 tsi and i want to put the rear discs on my 2020 tsi that has drums. Would be interested to know if this is relatively straightforward or if their are pitfalls which i will inevitably fall down?