1 hour ago, A7AS said:

I have no luck with lottery

 

Sad, i'm so interested on some feedback

for previous 2.0 TSI 220ps FWD Hatch i found as perfect springs from AWD Wagon's kit
but which rear springs for my current 2.0 TSI 280ps AWD Hatch . . .

19 hours ago, A7AS said:

I'm willing to replace my shock absorbers to make a car stiffer and have a better handling, but don't want to make it lower than it is now. It's a 2020 Superb Sportline 4x4 140kW diesel engine with sports suspension (no DCC), tow hook installed. It has G02 absorbers with L19 springs in front and 1JC with 0YG at the back. I'm thinking to get Eibach pro kit or Koni shock absorbers, but don't know with which option to go. Maybe there are better solutions? Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

 

5Q0411105HF Lowered ride height front coil spring L19

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5q0411105hf?supplier[0]=112&supplier[1]=85

 

5Q0411105GN Standard ride height front coil spring

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5q0411105gn?search=OEN 5Q0411105GN&supplier[0]=85&supplier[1]=112&supplier[2]=85&supplier[3]=112

 

According to Eibach, the 5Q0411105HF sports front springs are 40mm shorter than the 5Q0411105GN standard ride height front springs, and according to KYB they are 36mm shorter.  These springs have the same 12.5mm wire diameter and a similar number of coil turns, so these standard ride height springs and these lowered ride height springs should compress a similar amount under the weight of the car. Therefore, the difference between the standard ride height and lowered ride height could actually be over 30mm.

 

There's a similar story with the rear springs, ie. the difference in ride height between the standard ride height springs and the lowered ride height springs appears to be over 30mm.

 

Therefore, you might want to try Bilstein B8 shock absorbers with the Skoda lowered ride height springs. In the worst case scenario, it would simply mean changing the Skoda lowered ride height springs to something like Eibach pro kit springs.

 

Edited 19 May, 20233 yr by Carlston

 

Decidedly I will NEVER mount KONI in my cars and of course I will not recommend or speak well of the brand. For some time the noise seen in the video has been making me, next Tuesday I will go to the service to check but I know that if they do not put new ones on me, KONI ESPAÑA will not change them under warranty.

 

@Carlston @markyg82  Could I continue with the Koni SA front and mount new SACHS rear?? Everyone I talk to or read about is happy with the Sachs.

Edited 27 May, 20233 yr by Gabrielem

1 hour ago, Gabrielem said:

Decidedly I will NEVER mount KONI in my cars and of course I will not recommend or speak well of the brand.

 

On another VAG forum, people stopped using Koni shock absorbers due to corrosion problems.

 

Edited 27 May, 20233 yr by Carlston

3 hours ago, Carlston said:

 

En otro foro de VAG, la gente dejó de usar amortiguadores Koni debido a problemas de corrosión.

 

Do you think I could put Sachs in the back and keep the Konis installed in the front?

16 minutes ago, Gabrielem said:

Do you think I could put Sachs in the back and keep the Konis installed in the front?

 

It's always nice to match things front and rear with things like tyres and shock absorbers.

 

However, many people will fit aftermarket rear shock absorbers that don't exactly match their original front shock absorbers if their original rear shock absorbers start leaking.

 

I doubt it will cause any safety issues.

 

Edited 27 May, 20233 yr by Carlston

In the same way that you shouldn't fit different tyre types front and rear I would avoid fitting shocks that respond in a different way 9n each end. The SA's are quite a specific shock that had some kind of reactive damping. I would happily fit a firm rear shock like a B6 alongside the stock fronts as the main change is damping stiffness. If combined with lowering springs then a matching set all round is probably wise.

 

I do share your views on the SA's. Not been a fan and if I get a bonus this year I might consider using it on a set of B6's.

27 minutes ago, MarkyG82 said:

De la misma manera que no deberías montar diferentes tipos de neumáticos delante y detrás, yo evitaría montar amortiguadores que respondan de forma diferente en cada extremo. Los SA son un amortiguador bastante específico que tenía algún tipo de amortiguación reactiva. Me encantaría colocar un amortiguador trasero firme como un B6 junto con los frentes originales, ya que el cambio principal es la rigidez de amortiguación. Si se combina con resortes de bajada, entonces un conjunto a juego completo probablemente sea una buena idea.

 

Comparto sus puntos de vista sobre las SA. No he sido un fanático y si obtengo una bonificación este año, podría considerar usarlo en un juego de B6.

 

I consider that it has been a mistake to buy and assemble the KONI SA, from the first moment they were lowered from the elevator, the front one already went wrong, now the rear ones. I should have put myself SACHS on both axes and with the difference in money I should have gone for a weekend with the family.

 

The only good thing is that being the rear ones I can change them and the rear ones and the cups are 220 euros. We will see this week what the workshop tells me.

 

If I put the Sachs rears, it would be temporarily, until I change tires and I would put the front ones. The correct thing would be to put, in guarantee, two new SA behind.

Edited 28 May, 20233 yr by Gabrielem

2023. Mk3.FL 2.0 TSI 280ps AWD

challenge, stiffness without lowering, succeed

 

front

Eibach F11-85-043-03-FA + Bilstein B6 DampTronic 23-254343

rear

Eibach F11-79-013-01-RA + WRONG Bilstein B6 DampTronic 20-254353 (correct part code would be 20-267537)

 

OEM DCC

front

3Q0 413 031 AK + 5Q0 411 105 GN

rear

3Q0 513 045 AD + 3Q0 511 115 AL

 

 

played lottery also on front axle because

a) rear axle had it in any case

b) four springs set, Eibach Pro-Kit from Kodiaq E10-79-013-03-22, priced €193 while four separate springs €265

c) front of 280ps, in theory, has extra weight from bigger turbine and DSG radiator

 

 

choice table (green 2.0 FWD / yellow 2.0 AWD)

 

 

 

p.s.

i were too much focused on springs parameters as result i didn't double checked what b-šhit is on sellers page

such small mistake, minus €700+ (seller already rejected, crossing fingers on PayPal)

 

 

Edited 15 May, 20242 yr by MartiniB

On 08/05/2024 at 18:16, MartiniB said:

2023. Mk3.FL 2.0 TSI 280ps AWD

challenge, stiffness without lowering, succeed

You are the man! 😀

The unsettling body movement given by the original suspension setting on uneven roads is a real disappointment on the handling.

Thanks for making the effort (physical and economical!) to achieve better solutions!

Has anyone fit Golf R springs? 

 

I've got an Australian spec mk3 280 4x4 with DCC, like everyone else I'd like to stiffen it up a bit. Due to all the Golf R kids wanting to go with ultra stiff springs/coil overs/bags, OEM Golf R 7/7.5 springs can be bought for next to nothing.