Bilstein B6 35-229872 front shock absorbers

5Q0413023CP

5Q0413023EB

5Q0413023GG

5Q0413031CF

5Q0413031CG

5Q0413031CH

5Q0413031CJ

5Q0413031CL

5Q0413031CM

5Q0413031EC

5Q0413031FQ

5Q0413031FR

5Q0413031GD

5Q0413031GK

5Q0413031HD

5QM413031E

8V0413023C

8V0413023E

• SKODA Octavia III Hatchback (5E3, NL3, NR3) (Year of Construction 11.2012 - ..., 86 - 245 PS, Diesel, Petrol)
• SKODA Octavia III Combi (5E5) (Year of Construction 11.2012 - ..., 86 - 245 PS, Diesel, Petrol)
• SKODA Superb III Hatchback (3V3) (Year of Construction 03.2015 - ..., 120 - 280 PS, Diesel, Petrol, Petrol/Electro)
• SKODA Superb III Estate (3V5) (Year of Construction 03.2015 - ..., 120 - 280 PS, Diesel, Petrol, Petrol/Electro)
• SKODA Octavia IV Combi (NX5) (Year of Construction 11.2019 - ..., 110 - 245 PS, Diesel, Petrol, Petrol/Electric)
• SKODA Octavia IV Saloon (NX3) (Year of Construction 01.2020 - ..., 110 - 245 PS, Diesel, Petrol, Petrol/Electric)

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/bilstein/7522722?search=BILSTEIN Shock Absorber (35-229872)

 

Bilstein B6 24-229890 rear shock absorbers

5Q0513029BQ

5Q0513029EB

5Q0513029EC

5Q0513029EK

5Q0513029GR

5Q0513029HH

5Q0513029HQ

5Q0513049BF

5Q0513049FE

5QM513029A

5QM513029AC

5QM513029M

8V0513029E

8V0513029F

8V0513029H

8V0513029J

• SKODA Octavia III Hatchback (5E3, NL3, NR3) (Year of Construction 11.2012 - ..., 86 - 245 PS, Diesel, Petrol)
• SKODA Octavia III Combi (5E5) (Year of Construction 11.2012 - ..., 86 - 245 PS, Diesel, Petrol)
• SKODA Superb III Hatchback (3V3) (Year of Construction 03.2015 - ..., 120 - 280 PS, Diesel, Petrol, Petrol/Electro)
• SKODA Superb III Estate (3V5) (Year of Construction 03.2015 - ..., 120 - 280 PS, Diesel, Petrol, Petrol/Electro)
• SKODA Kodiaq (NS7) (Year of Construction 10.2016 - ..., 115 - 245 PS, Diesel, Petrol)
• SKODA Octavia IV Combi (NX5) (Year of Construction 11.2019 - ..., 110 - 245 PS, Diesel, Petrol)
• SKODA Octavia IV Saloon (NX3) (Year of Construction 01.2020 - ..., 110 - 245 PS, Diesel, Petrol)

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/bilstein/7543304?search=BILSTEIN Shock Absorber (24-229890)

These listings on autodoc (and elsewhere) are full of mistakes.

 

For example, Bilstein B6 35-229872 front shock absorbers are listed on autodoc as being compatible with OEM part numbers 5Q0413023CP, 5Q0413023DA, 5Q0413023EB, 5Q0413023GG, 8V0413023C, 8V0413023E.

 

But Bilstein B6 35-229872 front shock absorbers have a 55mm strut diameter, and 5Q0413023CP, 5Q0413023DA, 5Q0413023EB, 5Q0413023GG, 8V0413023C, 8V0413023E front shock absorbers actually have a 50mm strut diameter. So that's at least six mistakes in just one listing.

 

Edited 7 January, 20233 yr by Carlston

Minefield! I can’t get my head around how many different part no’s there are for these shocks… final spanner on my side is the rear originals not matching the part no’s worked out from my build sheet… 

 

I’m going to order the KYB’s and keep everything crossed they suit! Not getting anywhere matching up to a set of B4’s. Hopefully I can sell the ones I have, to try and recoup some money! 

Hello. I welcome all forum members. i'm new here. I have a skoda superb style 2.0tdi 190 dsg, wagon and year 2020 with standard suspension without dcc. I would like to replace the standard springs from the sportline. if anyone knows the catalog numbers for the front and rear sportline springs for such a superb model i would be very happy. now I have the following springs installed. front: 5Q0 411 105 GN, rear: 3Q0 511 115 AL. I would be most happy if someone can find a similar car with a sports chassis and entrust me with the chassis number, through which I can immediately find the appropriate springs.

@Style

 

On 27/10/2022 at 09:46, MartiniB said:

Eibach Pro F11-85-043-02-FA front (from weightier Audi Q2)
Eibach Pro F11-79-008-01-HA rear (from weightier Superb 4x4)
-> https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/485647-bilstein-b6-dcc-shock-absorbers-available-at-last/?do=findComment&comment=5625462

 

 

empty car:

 

with four passengers, without pilot:

 

@MartiniB

I think that the car will be too stiff with such a spring setting. In combination with the original shock absorbers, the ride will be bouncy. I'm still looking for someone who has the same car, i.e. station wagon, 2.0tdi 190KM dsg with original sports springs

13 hours ago, Style said:

the car will be too stiff with such a spring setting.

any of OEM springs will be too bouncy, as result annoying waterbed.
and note, "Sportline" springs aren't the same as springs from optional "Sport suspension"

 

i can promise, these(fronts F11-85-043-02-FA) Eibach Pro won't be too hard, just stiffer without lowering.
for double check, ask to @fencer

-> https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/478335-does-the-sportline-have-stiffer-suspension/?do=findComment&comment=5713073

 

for wagons or AWD hatchs rear, maybe these will be better 11-85-016-10-HA or 11-85-026-03-HA
not tested, guessing just by looking on springs specs

 

The rears that came on my 280 sportline combi (non dcc) are 3Q051115AC

The fronts are 5Q0411105HE

I have chosen eibach front F11-85-043-02-FA , but i cant decide which rears to choose, as i do a bit of towing. I am after stiffening up, that's all.

I've narrowed it down to eibach R10828 or F11-79-008-01-HA.

Which would be the best? 

 

I mistakenly bought a pair of R21706, and these are good 30mm too tall for me, so if anyone wants to make me an offer........

 

Thanks

 

 

On 5/12/2022 at 7:30, fencer said:

 

Sí, exactamente eso: un eje vertical desde el centro del buje hasta el borde inferior del protector del paso de rueda. Es una forma más confiable de medir la altura de la suspensión.

That way of measuring is super inaccurate. It is better to measure from floor to fin.

4 hours ago, Bigeater said:

The rears that came on my 280 sportline combi (non dcc) are 3Q051115AC

The fronts are 5Q0411105HE

I have chosen eibach front F11-85-043-02-FA , but i cant decide which rears to choose, as i do a bit of towing. I am after stiffening up, that's all.

I've narrowed it down to eibach R10828 or F11-79-008-01-HA.

Which would be the best? 

 

I mistakenly bought a pair of R21706, and these are good 30mm too tall for me, so if anyone wants to make me an offer........

 

How about fitting Eibach R19441 "standard ride height" front springs that are sold to replace 5Q0411105GN, and matching them with the Eibach R21706 "standard ride height" rear springs that are sold to replace 3Q0511115P.

 

5Q0411105GN

Front coil spring L08

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/4/411/411000

 

3Q0511115P

Rear coil spring 1JA+0YG

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/5/511/511005

 

With towing, it's probably best to have plenty of rear suspension travel.

 

As you currently have factory fitted "lowered ride height" springs, you might find that one or both of your anti roll bars are upgraded over standard, ie. stiffer. So although you would be changing to standard ride height springs, you might still have a sportier suspension setup compared to standard ride height. I haven't confirmed this, so you might want to check this out.

 

Edited 8 February, 20233 yr by Carlston

12 hours ago, Bigeater said:

I have chosen eibach front F11-85-043-02-FA

perfect!

 

12 hours ago, Bigeater said:

but i cant decide which rears to choose,

11-79-008-01-HA

is little bit low even on FWD Hatch, check pictures few posts above

 

i can suggest four lottery tickets

 

11-79-013-01-RA

11-85-016-10-HA

11-85-026-03-HA

11-85-011-01-HA

21 hours ago, Bigeater said:

The rears that came on my 280 sportline combi (non dcc) are 3Q0511115AC

The fronts are 5Q0411105HE

I have chosen eibach front F11-85-043-02-FA , but i cant decide which rears to choose, as i do a bit of towing. I am after stiffening up, that's all.

I've narrowed it down to eibach R10828 or F11-79-008-01-HA.

Which would be the best?

 

As you are running Skoda "lowered ride height" springs, ie. 5Q0411105HE front and 3Q0511115AC rear, you could change to the slightly stiffer 5Q0411105HF (about 5% stiffer) or 5Q0411105HG (about 10% stiffer) "lowered ride height" front springs, and 3Q0511115AD (about 5% stiffer) "lowered ride height" rear springs.

 

5Q0411105HE "lowered ride height" front springs

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5q0411105he?search=OEN 5Q0411105HE&supplier[0]=112

 

5Q0411105HF "lowered ride height" front springs (about 5% stiffer)

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5q0411105hf?search=OEN 5Q0411105HF&supplier[0]=112

 

5Q0411105HG "lowered ride height" front springs (about 10% stiffer)

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5q0411105hg?search=OEN 5Q0411105HG&supplier[0]=112

 

3Q0511115AC "lowered ride height" rear springs

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/3q0511115ac?search=OEN 3Q0511115AC&supplier[0]=112

 

3Q0511115AD "lowered ride height" rear springs (about 5% stiffer)

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/3q0511115ad?search=OEN 3Q0511115AD

 

You might have a job finding Eibach sports springs that give you a suitable stiffness and ride height for a Superb MK3 4WD estate that is going to be used for towing.

 

Edited 8 February, 20233 yr by Carlston

Hello

 

This is my first post here...

 

I have a 2020 Superb Combi Sportline 2,0 TDI 190PS DSG with 19’s no DCC, no trailer hitch. I want to get rid of the softnes and stiffer it. The car fels like a big boat and the suspension travels to much on the speed bumps.

Sportline setup. means Standard shocks + sport springs. But way to soft.

Now is fitted with the original spring colis, the front have a brown and yellow dot. I found this info:

5Q0411105HE

Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark

brown yellow

2

PR-L18

 

But now how to proced? I will prefer not to lower the car to much, it is already 15mm lower than a standard one. Maybe 30mm lower than standard will be ok.

I supose I need new coil springs, to firm the stiffer the car suspension. But when I look at the Eibach spring I got lost. There are a lot of options, I need to figured out what is fitted now on the car.

Do I need also new shock absorbers such as Bilstein B6?

I found also some advice to fit a Passat B8 Anti-roll bar or a new eibach Sway Bar?

 

I am open to some advice how to proced.

On 17/08/2021 at 19:43, Carlston said:

 

What OEM part numbers do your current front and rear springs have?

 

Your current front and rear springs might have OEM part numbers 5Q0411105GJ (2 blue dots) and 3Q0511115AK. If so, you would have an option of going up one weight range on the front and/or rear springs. The increase in spring stiffness by going up one weight range is about 5%, as you would be going up from 11.75mm wire thickness to 12mm wire thickness on the front and 12.25mm wire thickness to 12.5mm wire thickness on the rear. 

 

5Q0411105GK is one weight range higher than 5Q0411105GJ.

 

3Q0511115AL is one weight range higher than 3Q0511115AK.

 

Front Springs

(1)	5Q0411105GJ	coil spring 2 paint marks	blue
(1)	5Q0411105GK	coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	blue green

 

Rear Springs

1	3Q0511115AK	coil spring
1	3Q0511115AL	coil spring

 

Sachs 5Q0411105GJ

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/sachs/12794755

 

Sachs 5Q0411105GK

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/sachs/13786039

 

Sachs 3Q0511115AK

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/sachs/15244168

 

Sachs 3Q0511115AL

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/sachs/15244179

Hi all,

 

does anyone know if these pt numbers also apply to the hatchback?

 

cheers

15 hours ago, JimmyM said:

Does anyone know if these part numbers also apply to the hatchback?

 

On the Superb MK3 the springs and shock absorbers can vary depending on a number of factors such as:

 

1. Engine version, including engine power.

2. Manual gearbox, or DSG gearbox.

3. Two wheel drive, or four wheel drive.

4. Hatchback, or estate.

5. Standard ride height, or lowered ride height, ie. sports suspension

6. Standard shock absorbers, or electronically adjustable shock absorbers, ie. DCC

7. Factory fitted towbar, or no factory fitted towbar.

 

Notes

 

(a) The 2.0 engine will probably have slightly stiffer front springs than the 1.4 engine, due to the heavier engine weight of the bigger engine.

 

(b) The estate will probably have slightly stiffer rear springs than the hatchback, because of the higher maximum rear axle weight.

 

(c) A car with a factory fitted towbar will probably have slightly stiffer rear springs, to help prevent the rear end sagging too much when towing a caravan, etc.

 

Edited 18 April, 20233 yr by Carlston

If anyone is looking for an option that is just a bit higher than the Eibach or any other lowering springs on DCC suspension I've found myself a solution that seems to fit both front and back.

 

Rear strut:

Audi TT Mk2 rear spring pads part 8J0512149 lifts the car 7.5mm 

 

Front Strut:

Whiteline W71473 fits on the front strut above the spring and lifts it by 5mm (it's advertised as 6mm but is in fact closer to 5mm)

 

Will post pictures of the results in a week or so once fitted. The slight rear bias should be nice for when I load the car so it doesn't sag so much. Here is a pic of the front spring packer fitted to the upper part of the front strut.

 

 

Edited 28 April, 20233 yr by Frankenfurter

Hi everyone, new user here

 

I'm willing to replace my shock absorbers to make a car stiffer and have a better handling, but don't want to make it lower than it is now. It's a 2020 Superb Sportline 4x4 140kW diesel engine with sports suspension (no DCC), tow hook installed. It has G02 absorbers with L19 springs in front and 1JC with 0YG at the back. I'm thinking to get Eibach pro kit or Koni shock absorbers, but don't know with which option to go. Maybe there are better solutions? Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

@A7AS

"Eibach Pro kit" = Lowering 😞

 

choose custom, from weightier cars to avoid it

scroll up to tables, i posted above

-> https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/478335-does-the-sportline-have-stiffer-suspension/?do=findComment&comment=5712661

 

MartiniB, thanks, but it's difficult to choose the right options, because there is no such engine option as mine. Now I'm thinking maybe I should keep stock springs and only change the absorbers? Saw in some other threads people were praising Koni Special Active, but how do I know which model to choose front/rear? 

7 minutes ago, A7AS said:

MartiniB, thanks, but it's difficult to choose the right options, because there is no such engine option as mine. Now I'm thinking maybe I should keep stock springs and only change the absorbers? Saw in some other threads people were praising Koni Special Active, but how do I know which model to choose front/rear? 

Or maybe Bilstein B6 or B8 could be an option?

B8 is for lowered only. B6 is the same valving but with full length and can be lowered a small amount.

I've been disappointed with the special actives and if I came into some money would happily swap for B6.

8 hours ago, MarkyG82 said:

B8 is for lowered only. B6 is the same valving but with full length and can be lowered a small amount.

I've been disappointed with the special actives and if I came into some money would happily swap for B6.

So with sports suspension, which is 15 mm lower as I understand, should I go with B6 or B8? Or maybe choosing Eibach just absorbers, not the kit with springs? If so - which absorbers would be right option? Confused 😕

@A7AS

copy-paste from another tread:

due Bilstein parts shortage in 2021.

i had to install Eibach Pro springs on the rear axle few months earlier than Bilstein B6 DampTronic shocks
that gave me conclusion, the most, 65% of performance improvement, came from stiffer Eibach Pro springs

-> https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/485647-bilstein-b6-dcc-shock-absorbers-available-at-last/page/4/#comment-5697843

 

for 2.0 T*I front axle Eibach Pro F11-85-043-02-FA springs(Pro kit for Audi Q2) will add stiffness without lowering

for 4x4 rear axle i can suggest four Eibach Pro lottery tickets:

11-79-013-01-RA

11-85-016-10-HA

11-85-026-03-HA

11-85-011-01-HA

 

21 minutes ago, A7AS said:

So with sports suspension, which is 15 mm lower as I understand, should I go with B6 or B8? Or maybe choosing Eibach just absorbers, not the kit with springs? If so - which absorbers would be right option? Confused 😕

 

Cant remember the exact fgures and I'm fairly certain it changes between models, but, the B8 is roughly 30mm shorter so I would say you need a drop of at least that to make them work correctly.  Otherwise the springs would be preloaded too much.

 

Short answer, go with B6 for 15mm sport height.

2 hours ago, MartiniB said:

@A7AS

copy-paste from another tread:

due Bilstein parts shortage in 2021.

i had to install Eibach Pro springs on the rear axle few months earlier than Bilstein B6 DampTronic shocks
that gave me conclusion, the most, 65% of performance improvement, came from stiffer Eibach Pro springs

-> https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/485647-bilstein-b6-dcc-shock-absorbers-available-at-last/page/4/#comment-5697843

 

for 2.0 T*I front axle Eibach Pro F11-85-043-02-FA springs(Pro kit for Audi Q2) will add stiffness without lowering

for 4x4 rear axle i can suggest four Eibach Pro lottery tickets:

11-79-013-01-RA

11-85-016-10-HA

11-85-026-03-HA

11-85-011-01-HA

 

Thanks, but I have no luck with lottery