Does the Sportline have stiffer suspension?

[Gabrielem]

23 minutes ago, Carlston said:

 

Las longitudes citadas por los fabricantes de resortes son solo aproximadas. Es común comprar un nuevo resorte del mercado de accesorios y descubrir que varía unos pocos milímetros de lo cotizado.

 

Se afirma que el Eibach R15459 coincide con 5Q0411105HS, y Eibach afirma que la longitud es de 330 mm.

 

Si su 5Q0411105HS también es de 330 mm, entonces el cambio a un 5Q0411105GN de  318 mm  sería una reducción de 12 mm en la longitud sin comprimir. Sin embargo, el resorte 5Q0411105GN es más blando que un resorte 5Q0411105HS, quizás en un 5 % aproximadamente. Esto daría como resultado una reducción adicional en la altura de manejo delantera de aproximadamente 3 mm con un automóvil sin carga. Entonces, puede encontrar que la diferencia en la altura de manejo delantera entre un resorte 5Q0411105HS y un resorte 5Q0411105GN es de alrededor de 15 mm, es decir. lo que esperaría al pasar de un resorte de mayor altura de manejo a un resorte de altura de manejo estándar.

 

Incluso si la diferencia en la longitud sin comprimir fuera de solo 8 mm entre el 5Q0411105HS y el 5Q0411105GN, cuando agrega la mayor compresión del resorte más blando, sería una diferencia de aproximadamente 11 mm.

 

¿Sabe cuál es el número de pieza OEM de sus muelles traseros actuales?

 

Si no lo hace, puede encontrar los códigos de construcción de su automóvil en eBay. Busque "skoda decoder VIN" para encontrar la lista. El coste es de unos 3 euros.

 

Muelles traseros Skoda Superb MK3 4WD

 

1	3Q0511115AH	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JA+0YA	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115AJ	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JA+0YB	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115AK	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JA+0YC	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115AL	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JA+0YD	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115M	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JA+0YE	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115N	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JA+0YF	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115P	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JA+0YG	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115Q	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JA+0YH	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115R	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JA+0YJ	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115BC	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JA+0YK	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115S	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JC+0YA	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115T	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JC+0YB	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115AA	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JC+0YC	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115AB	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JC+0YD	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115AC	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JC+0YE	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115AD	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JC+0YF	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115BH	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JC+0YG	Desde 100,17€
1	3Q0511115AE	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JC+0YH	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115AF	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JC+0YJ	Desde 100,17€
1	3Q0511115AG	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JC+0YK	Desde 105,23€
1	3Q0511115BD	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-1JC+0YL	Desde 100,17€
1	3Q0511115BG	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-UC7+0YA	Desde 92,06€
1	3Q0511115AN	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-UC7+0YB	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115AP	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-UC7+0YC	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115AQ	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-UC7+0YD	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115AR	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-UC7+0YE	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115AS	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-UC7+0YF	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115AT	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-UC7+0YG	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115BA	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-UC7+0YH	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115BB	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-UC7+0YJ	Desde 90,05 €
1	3Q0511115BE	Muelle helicoidal		2	PR-UC7+0YK	Desde 105,23€

 

I just bought it, once it arrives, will I know all the parts of my car?  Anyway, with the first references you gave me for the springs plus the recommended shock absorbers, the car will be as I want.  Because, once I know what pieces I'm wearing, how will I know what I want to trade in for?  You are amazing.

[Carlston]

2 hours ago, Gabrielem said:

I just bought it, once it arrives, will I know all the parts of my car?

 

Once you have your car's build codes, you can use the Skoda parts catalogue to find the parts that your car left the factory with.

 

Here's an example of build codes. The below car has 180 build codes. They have been sorted into alphanumerical order, so that you can sort through them quickly.

 

There are also other useful codes, such as engine code and paint code, etc. Another useful piece of information is the date of manufacture.

 

You can copy and paste the below codes into the "VW Codes Decoder", which should give you an idea of what each code is for. For example, some codes will be for the springs, shock absorbers, brakes, etc.

 

VW Codes Decoder

The "VW Codes Decoder" is for decoding the build codes. Simply copy and paste all your build codes into this decoder.

http://igorweb.org/equidec.aspx

 

Skoda parts catalogue

Search "Skoda LLLParts" when looking for this website

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ

 

Example of build codes (sorted in alphanumerical order for ease of reference)
0A1 0AQ 0CL 0EM 0F3 0FB 0G4 0GE 0KA 0N2 0P0 0RA 0SC 0TA 0VF 0Y1 0YA
1AN 1C1 1D0 1E0 1EX 1G2 1JL 1KB 1L0 1LR 1N2 1NC 1PA 1Q0 1S7 1SA 1T0 1Z2
2B0 2C5 2D0 2G5 2JF 2LB 2P1 2PQ 2V1 2VG 2W0 2WA
3B0 3C1 3CA 3FA 3H3 3J7 3L0 3LC 3NB 3P6 3Q1 3U1 3ZB
4A0 4B1 4E5 4F1 4GF 4KC 4L2 4M5 4N2 4P2 4QV 4R0 4SC 4TC 4U0 4UE 4X1 4XC 4Z1
5A6 5C6 5D0 5K0 5N2 5RV 5SJ 5TC
6A0 6EA 6FA 6J1 6KA 6NA 6P1 6PA 6Q1 6QA 6R1 6SC 6U0 6W1 6XD 6Y0
7A0 7AA 7B0 7E6 7PA 7Q0 7QA 7R3 7V2
8AC 8BF 8CC 8GD 8K0 8L3 8M1 8N4 8P1 8Q1 8QC 8R1 8RE 8SG 8T0 8TD 8W0 8WA 8X0 8Y4
9AA 9E0 9FA 9GA 9JD 9P0 9PE 9Q0 9T0 9TC 9U1 9W0
A8C AC1 AZ0 B09 B0N C04 C0D E0A F0A G0C G10 GA0 H8P J0L K8G KG2 L05 L0R ME0 N4C NM1 PF0 PZ1 Q1A QA0 QG1 QJ0 QM1 QN0 QS0 RBA S0J T9V U0L V0A VK0

 

Edited 4 August, 2022 by Carlston

[Gabrielem]

23 minutes ago, Carlston said:

 

Once you have your car's build codes, you can use the Skoda parts catalogue to find the parts that your car left the factory with.

 

Here's an example of build codes. The below car has 180 build codes. They have been sorted into alphanumerical order, so that you can sort through them quickly.

 

There are also other useful codes, such as engine code and paint code, etc. Another useful piece of information is the date of manufacture.

 

You can copy and paste the below codes into the "VW Codes Decoder", which should give you an idea of what each code is for. For example, some codes will be for the springs, shock absorbers, brakes, etc.

 

VW Codes Decoder

The "VW Codes Decoder" is for decoding the build codes. Simply copy and paste all your build codes into this decoder.

http://igorweb.org/equidec.aspx

 

Skoda parts catalogue

Search "Skoda LLLParts" when looking for this website

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ

 

Example of build codes (sorted in alphanumerical order for ease of reference)
0A1 0AQ 0CL 0EM 0F3 0FB 0G4 0GE 0KA 0N2 0P0 0RA 0SC 0TA 0VF 0Y1 0YA
1AN 1C1 1D0 1E0 1EX 1G2 1JL 1KB 1L0 1LR 1N2 1NC 1PA 1Q0 1S7 1SA 1T0 1Z2
2B0 2C5 2D0 2G5 2JF 2LB 2P1 2PQ 2V1 2VG 2W0 2WA
3B0 3C1 3CA 3FA 3H3 3J7 3L0 3LC 3NB 3P6 3Q1 3U1 3ZB
4A0 4B1 4E5 4F1 4GF 4KC 4L2 4M5 4N2 4P2 4QV 4R0 4SC 4TC 4U0 4UE 4X1 4XC 4Z1
5A6 5C6 5D0 5K0 5N2 5RV 5SJ 5TC
6A0 6EA 6FA 6J1 6KA 6NA 6P1 6PA 6Q1 6QA 6R1 6SC 6U0 6W1 6XD 6Y0
7A0 7AA 7B0 7E6 7PA 7Q0 7QA 7R3 7V2
8AC 8BF 8CC 8GD 8K0 8L3 8M1 8N4 8P1 8Q1 8QC 8R1 8RE 8SG 8T0 8TD 8W0 8WA 8X0 8Y4
9AA 9E0 9FA 9GA 9JD 9P0 9PE 9Q0 9T0 9TC 9U1 9W0
A8C AC1 AZ0 B09 B0N C04 C0D E0A F0A G0C G10 GA0 H8P J0L K8G KG2 L05 L0R ME0 N4C NM1 PF0 PZ1 Q1A QA0 QG1 QJ0 QM1 QN0 QS0 RBA S0J T9V U0L V0A VK0

 

I think that in the end I will buy the 5Q0411105GN and 3Q0511115M springs from some brand such as Aljofors/KIlen, KYB, Sachs... and for shock absorbers I may go for some Koni Special Active.

 

In the end there is a thread left to put it as a pushpin regarding the suspension of the Skoda Superb MK3.

 

We haven't talked about suspension cups and rubber pads.

Is it necessary to change the 4 suspension cups?

 

Thank you Carlston.

[Carlston]

41 minutes ago, Gabrielem said:

Is it necessary to change the 4 suspension cups?

 

You can use the old ones, if they are still in good condition.

[Gabrielem]

1 hour ago, Carlston said:

 

Puedes usar los viejos, si todavía están en buenas condiciones.

How can I know the number of the rear shock absorber that I have installed?  I just read that in another Superb he changed the PPD to Euro and looked for "firmer" springs and the ones he had mounted turned out to be of the same thickness and length.  When my wife goes with the baby in the back, it may not be a bad idea to leave the springs that I currently have, but it is necessary to know what I have.

[EnterName]

I am enjoying reading this thread but am reading it with a mixture of fascination and confusion.

I love the idea of uprating my suspension, perhaps with a very little lowering, but it seems quite a minefield for people who aren't fairly expert in the area.

 

When it comes to engine tuning and remapping, a decent engine tuner can get you pretty much whatever you want, within the limits of the engine.

Are there similar suspension tuners who provide a similar service, offering not just to supply & fit the bits, but also offering advice on what would work on a customers car?

 

[Gabrielem]

2 hours ago, EnterName said:

Disfruto leyendo este hilo pero lo estoy leyendo con una mezcla de fascinación y confusión.

Me encanta la idea de mejorar mi suspensión, tal vez con un poco de reducción, pero parece un campo minado para las personas que no son bastante expertas en el área.

 

Cuando se trata de ajustar y reasignar el motor, un ajustador de motor decente puede conseguir prácticamente lo que quieras, dentro de los límites del motor.

¿Hay afinadores de suspensión similares que brinden un servicio similar, ofreciendo no solo suministrar y ajustar las brocas, sino también ofrecer consejos sobre lo que funcionaría en el automóvil de un cliente?

 

The truth is that at least it is Spain, of the Bilstein B6-B8 and the B12 kit I have not met anyone who recommends other things like @carlston and who I think are better.

[MarkyG82]

I think if you went to a tuner asking for suspension advice you would end up with coilovers. Not a bad thing if willing to spend a bit (£2k+ ?) to get good performance.

[MartiniB]

18 minutes ago, Gabrielem said:

The truth is that at least it is Spain, of the Bilstein B6-B8 and the B12 kit I have not met

i have ordered from Germany (Tuning-Expert.com) one year ago 2021-08-12

Eibach Pro F11-85-043-02-FA front (from Audi Q2 lowering set)
Eibach Pro F11-79-008-01-HA rear (from Superb AWD lowering set)

Bilstein B6 DampTronic 23-254343 front
Bilstein B6 DampTronic 20-267537 rear
received after several months 2022-01-06 all springs and just front shocks, rears still out of stock 😞

 

about springs, even Eibach support answers, you can order standard springs or lowering sets.

stiffness without lowering can be got only by  your own calculations and experiments

 

[EnterName]

3 hours ago, MarkyG82 said:

I think if you went to a tuner asking for suspension advice you would end up with coilovers. Not a bad thing if willing to spend a bit (£2k+ ?) to get good performance.

Then that would be poor advice IMO, unless it really is the case that any other option other than coilovers gives inferior performance to OEM suspension.

[MarkyG82]

2 minutes ago, EnterName said:

Then that would be poor advice IMO, unless it really is the case that any other option other than coilovers gives inferior performance to OEM suspension.

 

You are not wrong. I only said what I did because a quality set of coilovers will allow pretty much any suspension possibility within its range of lowering. Many sets will offer something like 35 to 65mm as their range of lowering. Then you apply the correct spring for what you want and adjust the damping to match. Doesn't have to be crashy and hard. 

 

On the flip side of my initial statement my local guys I use (well known online) are fans of bilstein and H&R so that another side to the story.

[EnterName]

1 hour ago, MarkyG82 said:

 

You are not wrong. I only said what I did because a quality set of coilovers will allow pretty much any suspension possibility within its range of lowering. Many sets will offer something like 35 to 65mm as their range of lowering. Then you apply the correct spring for what you want and adjust the damping to match. Doesn't have to be crashy and hard. 

 

On the flip side of my initial statement my local guys I use (well known online) are fans of bilstein and H&R so that another side to the story.

While the idea of having adjustable suspension appeals, TBH I want an off-the-shelf solution.

If there was a sensibly priced aftermarket DCC system, featuring, oh I dunno, about 10mm lowering, that would appeal to me.

I'm surprised more people didn't spec it as standard on their cars, it looks like great value.

[MarkyG82]

Yeah me too. Was one of the things I looked for but unfortunately most of the standard Passat GTEs didn't get it. Then it came as standard on the superb iv but I couldn't afford new car prices.

 

I also imagine most who get adjustable suspension set it to a known good value and forget about it. Unless they then track it but that is a different customer base.

[EnterName]

44 minutes ago, MarkyG82 said:

Yeah me too. Was one of the things I looked for but unfortunately most of the standard Passat GTEs didn't get it. Then it came as standard on the superb iv but I couldn't afford new car prices.

 

I also imagine most who get adjustable suspension set it to a known good value and forget about it. Unless they then track it but that is a different customer base.

I suspect you're right. There are a lot of people who set something just as they like it, then can't bear the idea of it being adjusted. Mirrors, seat position, steering wheel.

I switch driving mode a lot, usually between drive and economy, but do use sport mode now and then. I can imagine a lot of people never take their DSG mode out of D, never mind fiddle with other settings.

 

I drove my friend's car a couple of times when on holiday. (She had a girly moment when she encountered a bus coming the other way down a narrow lane and declared herself totally incompetent and insisted I sort out the problem because she couldn't possibly reverse her car down a narrow road.) Anyway, I set up the mirrors to reverse, then she decided that I should drive the remainder of the journey in case we met any other large vehicles on our way back.

Part of that adjustment was setting the rake and reach of the steering wheel.

Days later, after we got home, I received an annoyed phone call from her complaining about the steering wheel adjustment, that she didn't know how to set it back to how she liked it.

I explained how to do it, but she wasn't interested in doing it just then.

 

After a couple of weeks, I asked if she'd reset the steering wheel position to how she likes it, and she told me she's got used to it now and didn't want it adjusting.

People like her are why we don't get power and toque curves in car brochures any more.

[Gabrielem]

Hello. Turning the matter over until next week when I go to look for budgets, I have found the springs of the VW PASSAT B8 2.0 190CV 4 MOTION. first cousin of the SUPERB KM3 190 TDI 4X4, I see that the springs are shorter and in the case of the rear 10 mm thicker.

 

Would they be compatible with the Skoda?

 

Muelles SKODA:

 

https://www.motordoctor.es/muelles/skoda/superb/superb-ranchera-familiar-3v5/115169-2-0-tdi-4x4?brandIds=85

 

Muelles PASSAT:

 

https://www.motordoctor.es/muelles/vw/passat/passat-variant-3g5/108631-2-0-tdi-4motion?brandIds=85

[MartiniB]

13 hours ago, EnterName said:

People like her are why we don't get power and toque curves in car brochures any more.

 

same as DSG Gear Stick has been lost in all new VAGs

(picture from Škoda Museum in Mlada Boleslav)

 

i don't like often to visit Driving mode section while standard, now in 2022 already old school, gear stick

gives immediate access to Sport just by short move back

and Coasting by short move forward

[Carlston]

9 hours ago, Gabrielem said:

I have found the springs of the VW PASSAT B8 2.0 190CV 4 MOTION. first cousin of the SUPERB KM3 190 TDI 4X4, I see that the springs are shorter and in the case of the rear 10 mm thicker.

 

The VW Passat B8 front springs and the Skoda Superb MK3 front springs appear to be physically interchangeable. Kilen 25117 and Lesjofors 4095131 are both sold to replace both 5Q0411105CG and 5Q0411105GM front springs. 5Q0411105CG is a VW Passat B8 front spring and 5Q0411105GM is a Skoda Superb MK3 front spring.

 

Kilen 25117 and Lesjofors 4095131 front springs 5Q0411105CG 5Q0411105GM

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5q0411105cg?search=OEN+5Q0411105CG&supplier[0]=253&supplier[1]=246

 

The VW Passat B8 rear springs and the Skoda Superb MK3 rear springs also appear to be physically interchangeable. As you can see below, the 3Q0511115M rear springs are recommended for both the VW Passat B8 and the Skoda Superb MK3.

 

gknautomotive.com lists 3Q0511115M for the VW Passat B8 2.0TDI 190PS 4x4  variant (estate)

https://web.tecalliance.net/gkn/en/parts/cars/part/1/88271/detail?targetId=142473&typeNumber=142473&groups=188#@brc/brands:Car;targetType:cars/assem:VW%20PASSAT%20B8%20Estate%20(3G5%2C%20CB5)%202.0%20TDI%204motion;targetType:cars;targetId:142473;typeNumber:142473/lnkparts:Coil%20Springs;targetType:cars;assemblyGroupId:100113;targetId:142473;typeNumber:142473;page:0;groups:188/assignedPartDetail:88271;targetType:cars;brandId:1;articleNo:88271;targetId:142473;typeNumber:142473;groups:188

 

Kilen/Lesjofors lists 3Q0511115M for the Skoda Superb MK3 2.0TDI 190PS 4x4 estate

https://web.tecalliance.net/kilen/en/parts/cars/part/176/65126/detail?targetId=115169&typeNumber=115169&targetCountry=AT&groups=188#@brc/brands:Car;targetType:cars/assem:SKODA%20SUPERB%20III%20Estate%20(3V5)%202.0%20TDI%204x4;targetType:cars;targetId:115169;typeNumber:115169;targetCountry:AT/lnkparts:Coil%20Springs;targetType:cars;assemblyGroupId:100113;targetId:115169;typeNumber:115169;targetCountry:AT;page:0/assignedPartDetail:65126;targetType:cars;brandId:176;articleNo:65126;targetId:115169;typeNumber:115169;targetCountry:AT;groups:188

 

Most front suspension in the diagram below appear to be common to both cars. The only parts that appear to be different in the diagram below are the front springs and the front shock absorbers, but even then the front springs and the front shock absorbers appear to be physically interchangeable.

VW Passat B8 front suspension parts catalogue

https://volkswagen.7zap.com/en/rdw/passat+4motion+santana/pa/2016-793/4/411-411000/#9

 

Skoda Superb MK3 front suspension parts catalogue

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/4/411/411000

 

Edited 6 August, 2022 by Carlston

[Gabrielem]

4 hours ago, Carlston said:

 

Los resortes delanteros del VW Passat B8 y los resortes delanteros del Skoda Superb MK3 parecen ser físicamente intercambiables. Kilen 25117 y Lesjofors 4095131 se venden para reemplazar los resortes delanteros 5Q0411105CG y 5Q0411105GM. 5Q0411105CG es un muelle delantero VW Passat B8 y 5Q0411105GM es un muelle delantero Skoda Superb MK3.

 

Muelles delanteros Kilen 25117 y Lesjofors 4095131 5Q0411105CG 5Q0411105GM

https://www.autodoc.es/recambios-coches/oem/5q0411105cg?search=OEN+5Q0411105CG&supplier[0]=253&supplier[1]=246

 

Los resortes traseros del VW Passat B8 y los resortes traseros del Skoda Superb MK3 también parecen ser físicamente intercambiables. Como puede ver a continuación, los resortes traseros 3Q0511115M se recomiendan tanto para el VW Passat B8 como para el Skoda Superb MK3.

 

gknautomotive.com enumera 3Q0511115M para la variante VW Passat B8 2.0TDI 190PS 4x4 (familiar)

https://web.tecalliance.net/gkn/en/parts/cars/part/1/88271/detail?targetId=142473&typeNumber=142473&groups=188#@brc/brands:Car;targetType:cars/assem:VW%20PASSAT %20B8%20Estate%20(3G5%2C%20CB5)%202.0%20TDI%204motion;targetType:coches;targetId:142473;typeNumber:142473/lnkparts:Coil%20Springs;targetType:cars;assemblyGroupId:100113;targetId:142473; typeNumber:142473;page:0;groups:188/assignedPartDetail:88271;targetType:cars;brandId:1;articleNo:88271;targetId:142473;typeNumber:142473;groups:188

 

Kilen/Lesjofors enumera 3Q0511115M para el familiar Skoda Superb MK3 2.0TDI 190PS 4x4

https://web.tecalliance.net/kilen/en/parts/cars/part/176/65126/detail?targetId=115169&typeNumber=115169&targetCountry=AT&groups=188#@brc/brands:Car;targetType:cars/assem:SKODA %20SUPERB%20III%20Estate%20(3V5)%202.0%20TDI%204x4;targetType:coches;targetId:115169;typeNumber:115169;targetCountry:AT/lnkparts:Coil%20Springs;targetType:coches;assemblyGroupId:100113;targetId: 115169;typeNumber:115169;targetCountry:AT;page:0/assignedPartDetail:65126;targetType:cars;brandId:176;articleNo:65126;targetId:115169;typeNumber:115169;targetCountry:AT;groups:188

 

La mayoría de las suspensiones delanteras del siguiente diagrama parecen ser comunes a ambos autos. Las únicas partes que parecen ser diferentes en el siguiente diagrama son los resortes delanteros y los amortiguadores delanteros, pero aun así los resortes delanteros y los amortiguadores delanteros parecen ser físicamente intercambiables.

VW Passat B8 catálogo de piezas de suspensión delantera

https://volkswagen.7zap.com/en/rdw/passat+4motion+santana/pa/2016-793/4/411-411000/#9

 

Skoda Superb MK3 catálogo de piezas de suspensión delantera

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/4/411/411000

 

Thank you very much again.

 

But since the Passat's are shorter, would the height of the Superb be lowered?

 

Another thing, Carlston, without wanting to abuse his knowledge, could we know the spring references of a Skoda Superb mk3 2.0 TDI 147 KW 4x4 Sportline?

[Carlston]

1 hour ago, Gabrielem said:

But since the Passat's are shorter, would the height of the Superb be lowered?

Could we know the spring references of a Skoda Superb mk3 2.0 TDI 147 KW 4x4 Sportline?

 

5Q0411105CH front springs from the Passat B8 would lower the front of the Superb MK3 by about 11mm according to the specifications of the Eibach and Sachs springs, and about 16mm according  the specifications of the KYB springs. However, the KYB springs wouldn't necessarily lower the front ride height more than other springs that are sold to replace this OEM part number because there are often mistakes in the specifications given by aftermarket spring manufacturers.

 

Fitting Passat B8 springs and shock absorbers to a Superb MK3 won't necessarily make a Superb MK3 ride and handle like a Passat B8 because the Passat B8 also uses different anti-roll bars. 

 

The Kilen/Lesjofors spring catalogue only gives OEM part numbers for the Superb MK3 2.0TDI 4x4 150PS/190PS/200PS with standard ride height. The Sportline uses lowered/sports springs.

 

Skoda Superb MK3 2.0TDI 4x4 Hatchback, standard ride height, 110kW/150PS, 140kW/190PS, 147kW/200PS

5Q0411105GN front springs

3Q0511115AL rear springs (weight range 4)

 

Skoda Superb MK3 2.0TDI 4x4 Estate, standard ride height, 110kW/150PS, 140kW/190PS, 147kW/200PS

5Q0411105GN front springs

3Q0511115M rear springs (weight range 5)

 

Notice that the hatchback and estate uses the same front springs, and the estate uses rear springs just one weight range higher than the hatchback rear springs.

 

Edited 6 August, 2022 by Carlston

[JR RS]

I've been using Eibach springs for a Passat B8 in my Superb 220.

Edited 7 August, 2022 by JR RS

[MarkyG82]

1 hour ago, JR RS said:

I using Eibach springs for a Passat B8 in my Superb 220.

 

Eibach lowering springs or standard height?

[JR RS]

40 minutes ago, MarkyG82 said:

 

Eibach lowering springs or standard height?

 

Lowering springs - E10-85-042-02-22

 

Car dropped 20mm.

I have factory DCC shocks.

 

[MarkyG82]

1 hour ago, JR RS said:

 

Lowering springs - E10-85-042-02-22

 

Car dropped 20mm.

I have factory DCC shocks.

 

 

Looks good. I'm trying to decide whether to go for that set or E10-85-042-04-22. 02-22 is for superb iv and 04-22 is for Passat GTE.  I'll try do some digging on spring specs I think.

[MartiniB]

5 hours ago, JR RS said:

I've been using Eibach springs for a Passat B8 in my Superb 220.

Eibach OE replacement springs and Eibach Pro lowering springs are different stories

@Carlstontalks about EO replacement, same height, but too soft by mine and other ŠS3 owners opinion

Eibach Pro gives perfect stiffness, but officially provided sets come only together with lowering.

 

when first two (soft or low) can't be accepted, my case, chose Eibach Pro from some weightier MQB car

Eibach Pro F11-85-043-02-FA front (from Audi Q2 lowering set) perfect on ŠS3 2.0 FWD/AWD
Eibach Pro F11-79-008-01-HA rear (from Superb AWD lowering set) acceptable on ŠS3 2.0 FWD Hatch

but what rear springs for ŠS3 2.0 AWD?

[JR RS]

4 hours ago, MartiniB said:

Eibach OE replacement springs and Eibach Pro lowering springs are different stories

@Carlston

 

I know they r different.

I was just trying to highlight that Passat B8 and Superb 3 basically have the same springs.