The Coronavirus (COVID-19) Topic.

[xman]

18 minutes ago, gadgetman said:

 

Fake news, but they need to keep their readership foaming at the mouth about something 

 

Not exactly fake news, more like clickbait. But I must admit I fell for the carefully crafted headline . How many staff does an average run of the mill MP have anyway, don't a lot just have their spouse/lover and maybe child IIRC 🙄 Don't people in power and their staff use laptops anyway?

Edited 9 April, 2020 by xman

[@Lee]

4 minutes ago, xman said:

 

Not exactly fake news, more like clickbait. But I must admit I fell for the carefully crafted headline . How many staff does an average run of the mill MP have anyway, don't a lot just have their spouse/lover and maybe child IIRC 🙄 Don't people in power and their staff use laptops anyway?

What got me was the part about heating bills. Firstly, it's nearly summer, second, if they're now only residing at one place rather than their London appartments, would that not negate the leccy and heating of those properties? 

[gadgetman]

8 minutes ago, xman said:

 

Not exactly fake news, more like clickbait. But I must admit I fell for the carefully crafted headline . How many staff does an average run of the mill MP have anyway, don't a lot just have their spouse/lover and maybe child IIRC 🙄 Don't people in power and their staff use laptops anyway?

Their click bait and lies is why I've blocked the Mail, Express and Sun. That and previously slagging off the NHS, now rallying behind it. 

[xman]

6 hours ago, xman said:

rules on the evidence needed for costs to be reimbursed have been relaxed.

This is the bit we need to watch out for.

 

My duck house needs internet connectivity.....

[gadgetman]

15 minutes ago, Auric Goldfinger said:

 

Any chance you could explain your last post about my post please.   

 

[@Lee]

14 minutes ago, gadgetman said:

Their click bait and lies is why I've blocked the Mail, Express and Sun. That and previously slagging off the NHS, now rallying behind it. 

I bet the S*n are regretting the 'Sack the Doctors who strike' headline right now. Or maybe not

[xman]

12 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

I bet the S*n are regretting the 'Sack the Doctors who strike' headline right now. Or maybe not

Even if what you say is true, which without a link I can't say,  and seeing doctor's strikes were in mid 2016, what has this to do with Covid-19?

 

Or is it the usual left wing moan about he press, Lee.

 

[Auric Goldfinger]

29 minutes ago, gadgetman said:

 

 

With all due respect.  90% of the posts in this thread aren't really  discussions, there are just links to just about every form of news on every TV channel or news papers which are shown globally and the repeated on here. The Brexit thread was the same.  So I'll ask one question which you haven't bothered to reply to.  " Did anyone complain " ?

 

A little light humour can't be  bad surly...................

 

 

Edited 9 April, 2020 by Auric Goldfinger

[@Lee]

5 minutes ago, xman said:

Even if what you say is true, which without a link I can't say,  and seeing doctor's strikes were in mid 2016, what has this to do with Covid-19?

 

Or is it the usual left wing moan about he press, Lee.

 

Nowt to do with being a 'left wing moan'. Just pointing out the sheer bloody hypocrisy of some of the UKs most read 'newspapers'.
Funny how migrants are now championed after years of being vilified by the gutter press, isn't it.

[shyVRS245]

3 minutes ago, Auric Goldfinger said:

 

With all due respect.  90% of the posts in this thread aren't really  discussions, there are just links to just about every form of news on every TV channel or news papers which are shown globally and the repeated on here. The Brexit thread was the same.  So I'll ask one question which you haven't bothered to reply to.  " Did anyone complain " ?

If missed 5 pages on here recently and when I caught up it was 5 pages of waffle a bit like the previous 95 pages. It's like an exclusive old boys club you can only join through invitation Andy. Mine was removed also but that's normal for my posts.

[xman]

16 minutes ago, Auric Goldfinger said:

90% of the posts in this thread aren't really  discussions, there are just links to just about every form of news on every TV channel or news papers which are shown globally and the repeated on here.

 

Its been made a condition by the moderators that any "facts" quoted are backed up by source/links to prevent fake news etc.

 

You can't really discuss anything without quoting some facts. Those links to news items, trigger debate or support discussion,  but not always.

 

Not everyone can trawl the world's news sites either. I certsinly learn things here that I havent read. So a kind of news aggregator too, specific to Covid-19.

Edited 9 April, 2020 by xman

[Auric Goldfinger]

3 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

If missed 5 pages on here recently and when I caught up it was 5 pages of waffle a bit like the previous 95 pages. It's like an exclusive old boys club you can only join through invitation Andy. Mine was removed also but that's normal for my posts.

 

 

I'm not really bothered about the post being removed but its common curtesy to inform the poster why the post has been removed, Its like being stopped buy the police and you getting a speeding ticket and they wont tell you how fast you were actually going

 

 

Edited 9 April, 2020 by Auric Goldfinger

[john999boy]

4 minutes ago, Auric Goldfinger said:

 So I'll ask one question which you haven't bothered to reply to.  " Did anyone complain " ?

On behalf of @gadgetman, no.

I've not seen the post in question but just because other people haven't complained, that doesn't mean certain posts are appropriate, relevant or conducive to the topic.

[Auric Goldfinger]

1 minute ago, john999boy said:

On behalf of @gadgetman, no.

I've not seen the post in question but just because other people haven't complained, that doesn't mean certain posts are appropriate, relevant or conducive to the topic.

 

Thank you John,  at least you have answered my question, not like some,  before the post was removed it got loads of likes and HA Ha's so I can't really see what the problem was 

[john999boy]

10 minutes ago, Auric Goldfinger said:

I'm not really bothered about the post being removed but its common courtesy to inform the poster why the post has been removed, Its like being stopped buy the police and you getting a speeding ticket and they wont tell you how fast you were actually going

 

3 minutes ago, Auric Goldfinger said:

Thank you John,  at least you have answered my question, not like some,  before the post was removed it got loads of likes and HA Ha's so I can't really see what the problem was 

I'm sure you'll appreciate that Mods don't live on Briskoda and do actually have other things going in their lives. Sometimes things get noticed and are instantly removed and sometimes they're sorted later - either by having been reported or just as they're reading through posts..

It takes time to do these things and if a poster needs to be contacted about something, it's not usually in a good way.

 

We don't take delight in editing, removing posts or the other myriad of things that happen - and it's generally a thankless job at times, but it's all done for a reason and with the best intentions.

[xman]

I think this last page could do with a cleanup by the mods and get back on Topic.

[Auric Goldfinger]

1 hour ago, xman said:

Even if what you say is true, which without a link I can't say,  and seeing doctor's strikes were in mid 2016, what has this to do with Covid-19?

 

Or is it the usual left wing moan about he press, Lee.

 

 

58 minutes ago, xman said:

 

Its been made a condition by the moderators that any "facts" quoted are backed up by source/links to prevent fake news etc.

 

 

Looks like this needs post  deleting 

[gadgetman]

59 minutes ago, Auric Goldfinger said:

 

 

but its common curtesy to inform the poster why the post has been removed, 

 

This isn't something staff have ever done. We'd spend forever sending DMs to people. 

 

If it's been removed, Its typically for a reason. And despite what many chose to believe, we try to give everyone quite a long leash before stepping in. 

[Auric Goldfinger]

7 minutes ago, gadgetman said:

This isn't something staff have ever done. We'd spend forever sending DMs to people. 

 

If it's been removed, Its typically for a reason. And despite what many chose to believe, we try to give everyone quite a long leash before stepping in. 

 

 

but cannot the reason be explained so the poster doesn't fall into the same mistake again 

[brettikivi]

 

We're all set for the block to Helsinki to be released on the 18th. New infections trending down for the last few days, but the borders are closed until 13th May anyway. Traffic towards the checkpoint on the motorway was backed up for several kms, which is nuts, as it means a whole bunch of Helsinki people figured they could get through. It's been pretty clear sailing apparently since the first day. 

Google maps showing how they've blocked all sorts: https://www.google.fi/maps/@60.7743338,25.4636051,13z/data=!5m1!1e1

and then the queues earlier today:

 

 

In other news, PPE bought from China isn't necessarily what it says on the box and there's a bit of a scandal about it; and otherwise, things are moving in a decent direction, though it has taken three weeks of pretty serious lockdown to get here. We've also probably got another 2 to go. Deaths are at 43 or so (in total!) with an average age of over 80... and 30% of the workforce is currently either furloughed or working part time. 

 

 - Bret

 

 

 

 

 

[gadgetman]

Sobering thought 

 

 

[skomaz]

8 hours ago, lol-lol said:

10% unemployment in the US as of today.

UK relatively slow to produce its figures but judging by applications to Universal Credits here and the similar nature of much of our economies eventually UK figures to be same ie 3m plus unemployed sadly despite furlough scheme.

 

7 hours ago, lol-lol said:

 

And 200 from the US.

Any from Russia or elsewhere I wonder.

EU offered weeks ago, UK declined, then lied about getting the offer, tragic.

 

Given the requirement to provide links in this thread, as requested by the mods to prevent confusion and ill informed comment could one of the mods either ask lol-lol to provide links and evidence or remove hs posts please.

 

Thanks

Edited 9 April, 2020 by skomaz

[ColinD]

Not to add fuel to the fire...

 

the mods volunteer their time.

 

since day one, back in 2002, our standing policy is that the mods or anyone does not have to explain a moderation action.

 

they, we, can explain if we feel we have time, reasonable chance it makes a difference.

 

i don’t, nor would I, impose that any time be wasted, on what should be obvious.

 

the fact anyone volunteers to moderate still astounds me. Yes I’ll defend the moderators, of course I will. Do I agree , no not always, like I don’t agree with many views posted. But I adapt, I tolerate, I walk away from an argument.

 

I’d also ask that folk remember all members, even mods have a voice and opinions. They can be shared and they might not along with yours. This is life. 
 

if you feel any actions against you are unfair please just email me directly.

 

you may note I don’t post much of late. These controversial topics in effectively blocked from for this very sort of reason. One day I’ll have to sit and read the whys and wherefores of who said, he said, she said.

 

I don’t wish that on anyone.

 

i can’t stop you posting, I have asked that we don’t try to propagate  fake or bad news. A link helps us check. No link to source, high chance it will be removed in a topic like this.

 

fake funny news... I read the first bit of that post and thought many bad things about the stupidity of the government before realising it was a spoof. Problem is... if I’d not read the rest I’d not have known.

 

could we of edited it? Yes, but then so could you as a poster. See the best moderators are you, the original posters. Get that right within our guidelines and, well heck, then the mods are redundant. And who in this time would wish for anything else...

 

I think as a whole we do quite well here, for an active rosta of less than five mods... to cover the whole community... some groups ache for that ratio for one forum.

 

every one of these flares, I listen and begin the long process of thinking what I, we, may of missed.

 

please just think before you post, I’d say go for a walk, but you know... I’m on the 12 week stay indoors list, so you can’t go for a walk... 

 

...let’s try to be civil, I did hope for 30days of goodness. 
 

anyway, long past my bed and I’ve got work tomorrow. Not furloughed, just having to do more to help those who are.

 

mad times folks, let’s not add to it... please.

 

thank you, stay safe, stay at home, wave to the poor sods stuck inside, I’ll wave back.

 

colin.

 

Edited 9 April, 2020 by ColinD

[shyVRS245]

8 hours ago, gadgetman said:

Sobering thought 

 

 

If you read the "History of Influenza Pandemics" you will see flu has been wiping out humans since 410B.C in Greece. Moving to recent times there were Pandemics recorded in China in 1781, again China between 1830-1833, Russia in 1889, 1918 saw the worst outbreak with 50 million deaths (more US soldiers died during the WW1 of flu rather than in battle). More recently 1957 1.1 million died globally then 1 million in 1968. The last major outbreak in 2009 was a relatively mild strain with only 203,000 deaths globally.

[lol-lol]

7 hours ago, skomaz said:

 

 

Given the requirement to provide links in this thread, as requested by the mods to prevent confusion and ill informed comment could one of the mods either ask lol-lol to provide links and evidence or remove hs posts please.

 

Thanks

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/09/weekly-jobless-claims-report.html

 

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-britain-procuremen/email-mix-up-causes-britain-to-miss-eu-ventilator-buying-scheme-idUKKBN21D313