11 hours ago, wyx087 said:

😛 

https://www.spiritenergy.co.uk/tesla-power-wall-3#:~:text=Tesla Powerwall 3 is rated,a laser-welded lower half.

I'm getting it wall mounted about 20cm off the ground. Only need to worry about ground floor sockets, they can be isolated via consumer unit. 

 

I went with a Givenergy All-in-One, similar specs but slightly cheaper and also Octopus can manage it if I choose to let them. For the moment though I'm using a Python script on an old laptop, could use the Givenergy app too but prefer the slightly more granular control I get with the script. It also has a gateway (mentioned elsewhere) so in the event of a power cut it'll supply up to 6kw continuous (for about 2 hours before batteries go flat), even without solar generation e.g. at night.

 

Edited 28 August, 20241 yr by apd007

Parks Motor Group (of Hamilton) have dealerships for various brands around Scotland.

They have what used to be known as the Golden Lion Garage in Arbroath.   I see they have an application in for signs for their new Dealership of cars from a Chinese Manufacturer Chery.

Never heard of the brands Omoda & Jaecoo. 

 

ICE, Hybrid,s, EV,s.

 

 

 

Edited 31 August, 20241 yr by Ootohere

2 hours ago, Ootohere said:

Parks Motor Group (of Hamilton) have dealerships for various brands around Scotland.

They have what used to be known as the Golden Lion Garage in Arbroath.   I see they have an application in for signs for their new Dealership of cars from a Chinese Manufacturer Chery.

Never heard of the brands Omoda & Jaecoo. 

 

ICE, Hybrid,s, EV,s.

 

 

 

 

We could see a massive influx of Chinese now that Canada, EU and USA have introduced massive tariffs.

 

Chinese would gave been designing and producing Right Hand Drive cars if they were not already.

 

Being interesting to see if new GB government follow siut with other Western countries. KPMG reckon RHD cars were costing over 6 % more than LHD ones.  We are consumers have to pay this premium in countries that drive on the left.

 

Of course Northern Ireland is subject to the additional duties as part of the EU customs territory. Nice one Boris.

 

1 hour ago, Stonekeeper said:

 

Thanks.

Maybe the percentage of rhd drive vehicles will increase as India and Indonesia move more from motorcycles to motorcars for the masses.

 

It would have been interesting to hear Sweden's logic to change from driving on the left to the right back before their change in 1967. Presuming the saw it meant cheaper cars for their people but not sure that was the main reason.

 

Maybe 69 countries but I wonder how many actual cars etc per year are made rhd compared to lhd.

 

9 hours ago, lol-lol said:

 

Thanks.

Maybe the percentage of rhd drive vehicles will increase as India and Indonesia move more from motorcycles to motorcars for the masses.

 

It would have been interesting to hear Sweden's logic to change from driving on the left to the right back before their change in 1967. Presuming the saw it meant cheaper cars for their people but not sure that was the main reason.

 

Maybe 69 countries but I wonder how many actual cars etc per year are made rhd compared to lhd.

 

There were various arguments for the change:

All neighbouring countries drive on the right, including Norway and Finland, with which Sweden shares land borders, with five million vehicles crossing annually.[4]
 

More than 90 percent of Swedes drove left-hand drive vehicles,[4] and this led to many head-on collisions when passing on narrow two-lane highways.[5] City buses were among the very few vehicles that conformed to the normal opposite-steering wheel rule, being right-hand drive (RHD).[6]
 

However, the change was unpopular; in a 1955 referendum, 83 percent voted to keep driving on the left. Nevertheless, the Riksdag approved Prime Minister Tage Erlander's proposal on 10 May 1963 of right-hand traffic beginning in 1967, as the number of cars on the road tripled from 500,000 to 1.5 million and was expected to reach 2.8 million by 1975.[7] The Swedish Commission for the Introduction of Right-Hand Driving (Statens högertrafikkommission, HTK) was established to oversee the change.[8] It also began implementing a four-year education programme on the advice of psychologists


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagen_H

Want a small quirky city car, that charges in 4 hours, seats 2, this could be a contender.

 

 

9 miles to the kWh is quite amazing. 

7 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

Want a small quirky city car, that charges in 4 hours, seats 2, this could be a contender.

 

 

but that's not a small city car, it's a L7e quadricycle designed in Turin, built in Shanghai  that first debuted as a production model in 2021 at the IAA in Munich ;o)

Edited 2 September, 20241 yr by Winston_Woof

That is fine, if used in a City, Town, Village or countryside it is a SMALL Car and requires a driving licence in the UK.

(Just the Appropriate licence then for a Quadricycle with a speed up to 90 kmh in the UK and get insurance.)

A Heavy Quardricycle that can go on Motorways. 

 

(I posted the vid last week in the Under £25,000 ev thread.  It gets possibly 3 times the miles per kWh than i do in the MINI Electric used in town or maybe a city..)

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 2 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

I think this thread is pretty telling about people misconceptions regarding EV's.

 

The misconceptions summarised, with well referenced sources on correct facts:

https://eciu.net/media/press-releases/2024/poll-most-petrol-car-drivers-score-just-2-out-of-10-for-ev-knowledge

 

Quote

• Nearly two-thirds (62%) of petrol drivers believe it’s more expensive to own and run an EV, with only 14% correctly recognising that EVs are typically cheaper. A report from ECIU found that the drivers of the top 10 selling petrol cars of 2023 can find themselves paying a petrol premium of £700 a year in running costs, compared to an equivalent electric car. [4]
• 41% of petrol drivers incorrectly think that EVs are more likely to catch fire than petrol cars, with only 24% correct in their understanding that they are less likely to catch fire. Evidence from EV Fire Safe indicated that EVs are more than 80 times less likely to catch fire than petrol or diesel cars. [5]
• More than half (59%) of petrol drivers thought the UK’s electricity grid “will not be able to cope” with the UK’s shift to EVs, whereas only one in five (20%) correctly identified this statement as false. The National Grid has explicitly labelled this a ‘myth’ and is clear that the power system will be able to cope with millions more EVs in the UK [6].
• 80% of petrol drivers think the UK is not on course to install the charging infrastructure it needs, despite the country being ahead of schedule to hit its target of 300,000 chargers on the UK’s roads by 2030. [7]
• More drivers (35%) incorrectly believed that an EV’s lifetime CO2 emissions are no less than those of a petrol car than correctly identified this statement as false (32%). An EV being driven in the UK produces three times less lifetime CO2 emissions that an equivalent petrol or diesel car. [8]

 

I certainly feel down south and in western Europe, public charging infrastructure is no longer a problem.

Not sure about Scotland due to CPS disincentivised and delayed competitive public charging installs.

 

The last point on CO2 emissions was just discussed a few pages ago. UK have a clean grid and ever improving. With more upcoming renewable installs, variability is only going to grow, EV is perfectly positioned to capture those (for example Octopus energy's free sessions)

 

Where more petrol car drivers got the answer right than wrong was around energy independence where 37% recognized that more EVs running on British renewable electricity would make the UK more energy independent than relying on increasing imports of oil and petrol. 29% agreed with the incorrect statement that EVs would weaken the UK’s energy independence.


Granted, more EVs  would reduce the amount of Oil/ Petrol imported but  its doesn't make the UK more energy independent.

As I write this the UK is currently having to import 22% of its electric , that's some way off being "energy Independent" and more EVs could mean even more needing importing ;o)




https://grid.iamkate.com/

England really does need to get a grip of this. The electric, the oil the gasses, and so much else that it depends on importing.    Wales or some Welsh do not want the overland transmission cables to export electricity to England any more than some in Scotland do.    They say spoiling beauty spots and ruining tourism.      It is England that needs to be moving quicker.  Frack, drill, extract and build for your own needs.     PS. You say UK.  You posted the National Grid for Great Britain. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Islands.  Or British isles.   PPS.  If England get on with the Nuclear projects that eat up UK money then maybe there will be less importing needed. 

Edited 2 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

As to the amount of oil and gas imported or brought out from around the British isles it is the use of it or any that is to be refused and the emissions from the final products produced or used.  Right now it is renewables / wind being used to reduce the emissions just getting it out of under the sea that is a huge project.    The court cases on the exploration licences is about the final use of the products emissions not being part of the applications and licences already granted.  Court cases pending and objections dropped last week over this. 

 

Lots of sh!t hitting fans to come. Electric fans, Fossil Fuel Fans. Just all kinds of fannies. 

Edited 2 September, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Re the quadricyle, no license needed to drive one in France, they are called VSP's - Voiture sans permis (permis = driving license).

 

Children over 14 years old can drive them, they are an important part of growing up and gaining maturity as many 14 year olds attend Lycée Professionnelles many miles from their homes and many stay in rented accommodation close to the Lycée during the week, they have the right to do that as well, I rented several appartments to Lycéens and it was very encouraging to see them grow from mature children to responsable adults going on to forge careers at Airbus, marry and buy their first house locally.

 

There are 2 other main user types of VSL's, people who have lost their license through drink driving and people who will never be competent to pass a test in their lifetime, the first group tend to be safe but embarrassed and stigmatised and quite possibly sozzled, the latter very dangerous!

 

Insurance premiums are massive as over exuberant drunken adolescents love to tip them on their roofs!

That is Re a Light Quadricycle.   Heavy Quadrictcle being different. 

2 hours ago, Winston_Woof said:

Where more petrol car drivers got the answer right than wrong was around energy independence where 37% recognized that more EVs running on British renewable electricity would make the UK more energy independent than relying on increasing imports of oil and petrol. 29% agreed with the incorrect statement that EVs would weaken the UK’s energy independence.


Granted, more EVs  would reduce the amount of Oil/ Petrol imported but  its doesn't make the UK more energy independent.

As I write this the UK is currently having to import 22% of its electric , that's some way off being "energy Independent" and more EVs could mean even more needing importing ;o)




https://grid.iamkate.com/

One can install solar panels and a sizeable install can enable entirely energy independence on an individual level.

Last time I checked, back yard oil drilling isn't a thing.

 

The import/export of electricity via interconnect are from our neighbours rather than dictators. This local energy trading is also important to allow more resilient renewables before enough renewables and storage capability is available. You know where I'd put EV's in that equation

 

Let's also not forget UK both buys and sells throughout the day.

4 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

That is Re a Light Quadricycle.   Heavy Quadrictcle being different. 

 

What is your point?

 

I was responding to your posting which already illustrated the differences between heavy and light quadricycles (which in any case is a UK distinction) and which featured the Citroen Ami, a Voiture sans permis. It was intended to be informative.

 

Was there anything I wrote which was wrong or you disagree with?

 

 

Unladen mass not less than 425kg not including the mass of the battery pack for EV's

 

There must be several modern vehicles that could get under that figure for an EV version given the mass of a thermal engine and transmission compared to an Electric one, the problem for the maufacturers is that it would only give them a competitive advantage in the French market, its a shame other countries do not have the same liberty for drivers without licenses, anything that could reduce the amount of dangerous muppets on Electric Scooters could only be a good thing.

 

The Citroen Ami is doing very well here as its far better than the other VSL's and is acceptable to most who would mock them.

Taking on motorways is an interesting one on the UK. 

Taking a Citroen Ami on the motorway is IMO just as crazy as it gets, small size and limited speed is a recipe for disaster.

 

14 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

Taking a Citroen Ami on the motorway is IMO just as crazy as it gets, small size and limited speed is a recipe for disaster.

 

 Ami cant go on the motorway  as its a  L6e   light quadricycle  limited to 45kph/28mph

The YoYo is a L7e heavy quadricycle with a max speed not exceeding 90kph/55mph and is allowed on the motorway

5 hours ago, J.R. said:

Was there anything I wrote which was wrong or you disagree with?

 

@Ootohere From the groan awarded I conclude there wasn't so I ask again what was your point?

There was no point other than clear info on No Licence and needing a licence Quadricycles.

There is no need to be near your skin.  I just posted some guff to read that covered the subject. 

Volvo gives up plan to sell only EVs by 2030

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3ejye39434o

 

Edited 6 September, 20241 yr by Winston_Woof