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Just checked mine and it is back up and running as well 

& mine on a mib2 high. Was a technical failure in the company that runs TMC in the UK. Similar to the one a couple of weeks back. Nothing to do with the map update. 

  • 2 weeks later...
On 23/05/2022 at 09:02, D402 said:

Thanks again @MartiniB

 

I can't fit ECE AS(A1) 2023 onto my 16gb card even with the unused languages deleted, does anyone know if there's another workaround?

 

I was curious about this as my car also only has a 16GB card and it it was just ~100MB more space needed so after a bit of poking around I managed to get it to fit on my 16GB card by deleting a few other files (in addition to the usual language files):

 

In the folder "maps\00\cfg\mapcfg\" delete the highlighted files/folders (basically anything VW or Seat specific):

  • SEAT (whole folder)
  • VW (whole folder)
  • se_default.cfg
  • vw_default.cfg

You should be left with just the SKODA folder, sk_default.cfg and vw_man.cfg. I didn't delete the file vw_man.cfg as it was the only file what that name format.

 

It should then (only just) fit on to a 16GB SD card (14.8GB formatted).

 

Plugged it in to the car and after checking the files it didn't report any issues and seems to work fine, but YMMV...

 

 

7 minutes ago, Will- said:

 

I was curious about this as my car also only has a 16GB card and it it was just ~100MB more space needed so after a bit of poking around I managed to get it to fit on my 16GB card by deleting a few other files (in addition to the usual language files):

 

In the folder "maps\00\cfg\mapcfg\" delete the highlighted files/folders (basically anything VW or Seat specific):

  • SEAT (whole folder)
  • VW (whole folder)
  • se_default.cfg
  • vw_default.cfg

You should be left with just the SKODA folder, sk_default.cfg and vw_man.cfg. I didn't delete the file vw_man.cfg as it was the only file what that name format.

 

It should then (only just) fit on to a 16GB SD card (14.8GB formatted).

 

Plugged it in to the car and after checking the files it didn't report any issues and seems to work fine, but YMMV...

 

 

At some point with lots of hacking it probably won't fit again 😉. Easy enough to buy a new Skoda 32gb card off your e seller. They are not that expensive. Only if you are driving across the breath of Europe do you require the all Europe map.

 

The card is not fixed to the unit in Skodas and VW cars, you buy the card, delete what is on it if it's not up-to-date, copy on the new release and you are in business. For the Seat unit you deploy the "workaround" which is the normal method for the standard unit. Quite a few Seats have Skoda cards in them now although there is a Seat 32gb card. All VAG cards are interchangeable in the unit.

 

I keep giving TomTom new roads in the UK as estates get built and new developments via Tom Tom Mapshare as other contributors do. These get put on, so it will continue to grow. 

@Tell Completely agree, to be honest it was more of a "can I make it fit" situation, as realistically I'm using Android Auto 99% of the time but no harm having a working backup

Problem with Google Maps is a lot they don't have on it and a lot wrong. Now mib has taken a turn for the worse with mib3 it leaves many people thinking built in car navigation systems aren't worth it. A certain beauty of using an integrated system.

Škoda update portal has maps, since few days ago. I have downloaded the largest one and it works, fits on 32Gb. 

 

So, it can be fetched the usual way.

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18 hours ago, nidza said:

Škoda update portal has maps, since few days ago

Are You sure?
Share then links to 1910 files.

 

1810 are one year old, which were downloadable one month ago

  

On 09/05/2022 at 13:32, MartiniB said:
On 19/10/2021 at 10:07, MartiniB said:

Files inside:    2021.05.12
Downloadable:    2022.05.09
Published:    2022.06.0?

becomes a tradition, one year old 1810 map files placed on Škoda's server with half year delay,
first post has been edited.

 

You're right, it's 1810. Haven't paid attention as they've put two roundabouts built up since last update in 2021, so I'm happy.

 

Is VW really updating each month?

 

1 hour ago, nidza said:

You're right, it's 1810. Haven't paid attention as they've put two roundabouts built up since last update in 2021, so I'm happy.

 

Is VW really updating each month?

 

6 monthly June and November else we would be taking from there if monthly. 😉

 

Mib3 are more frequent over the air, they are Here Maps cartography. Mib2 standard (Amundsen on Skoda brand) is TomTom cartography. Mib2 high (Skoda Columbus brand) is Here Maps. Mib3 its all Here Maps cartography, TomTom cartography got sidelined by VAG when Mib3 was launched but still update for Mib2.

 

Edited by Tell

  • 1 month later...

So... Do i get this right? 

The files for the maps are a year old, but they post it as 2023? 

 

And theres no difference between the two download links for AS1? 

29 minutes ago, DonJayDk said:

So... Do i get this right? 

The files for the maps are a year old, but they post it as 2023? 

 

And theres no difference between the two download links for AS1? 

The Skoda links and maps are 1810 and marked as 2022-23
The VW link are 1910 and marked as 2023

You need the large download for Denmark, and probably a 32GB card, I was not able to fit the large download onto the 16GB card I have

 

EDIT: You probably need/use ECE 2 region, so should fit on a standard 16GB map card

Edited by varooom
ECE 2 Region

On timeliness there are production delays in QA and I'm sure they are similar with all mapping systems. Six months or so, then you enter the production part online real time distribution whether via a six monthly cycle as these or over the air quarterly say. People think Google are quicker. A lot of the data is crowd sourced by a user community of mapping individuals, it isn't picked up by cars going around and it then goes into a process of production delay via QA. Digital map companues also digitally analyse each other's maps which is how mistakes get propagated between mapping systems. Tracer GPS tracks are used to identify new routes and bypasses. Again an area for mistakes to be introduced without good QA  Areas where mistakes get seeded between mapping systems.  Builders roads on new estates are another one, they are not the final roads but are the truck roads when the estate is built. You often find them years are an estate has been built on digital maps that should have never have been entered, mud roads. Bollards to stop rat runs get missed but in overhead images people miss them. UK OS  published planning maps as opposed to other OS maps are the defacto on the ground small scale maps but digital map producers dont check against these for mistakes. Suspect in other countries local planning maps also get ignored by the international mapping companies with one solution fits all in their validation process. It's like painting the Forth Bridge constant painting.

 

The language deletion trick allowed the all Europe map to be put on a 16gb SD card, was a fudge. This year that one stopped working since the maps out grew the fix. I have read somewhere of other aggressive hacks of deleting parts of the directory deemed to be not required which work with this release. I did not note that down since they are only short term fixes to the issue of not buying a new VAG 32gb map card (don't change the cluster size it can wreck some of the cards).

 

Only if driving the length of Europe do you require the all European maps, the zoned areas are adequate for the majority of people. You have a mib2 high with the all Europe map in a car that you'd wish to drive across Europe in whilst the run around would stay in the garage. That's what happens here.

Edited by Tell

I tried the ECE 2, but it wont recognize the files. I use a old Skoda card 16GB.

Are you using a Mac ?. If so you are suppose to use Keka for the unzip and run CleanMyDrive on the SD after. Just in case its a Mac issue. You are suppose to do that if using a Mac. Mib2 high it will stop the map import in its tracks but for a Mib2 Standard which an Amundsen is it will try to run with the gibberish associated with Mac characters that the unit may not like. That may well cause it to fail.

 

You don't alter the cluster size. Those that have done on some of the cards have wrecked the card. Just a straight delete if using a PC and copy the unzipped contents onto it using 7zip. Mac the above.

 

As said with an old fashioned format people have wrecked some of these cards. Windows 11 formats to a bigger cluster size by default it should be 4096 (correct number) and that can wreck the card if bigger. People play with the cluster size, it should be 4096 and Fat32. Those are the mistakes when people do a format rather than just right click and deletes what's on the SD.

Using windows 11. I will try and format the card and install it again.

If you did take the format route previously and you do it again make sure it's Fat32 and the cluster size is 4096. The unit runs QNX and they don't take too kindly to NTFS or other cluster sizes.

 

Attached is the VAG gospel on the mib2 standard "how to", which is what the Amundsen is. Same instructions on file preperation across the brand covering fat32, 4096 cluster size, 7 zip and Keka / CleanMyDrive for Mac users.

Discover_Media_MIB_Gen.2_June_2020_EN.pdf

Should it be maps or 00 folders ?

14 minutes ago, DonJayDk said:

Should it be maps or 00 folders ?

Cant edit my reply...

 

But i got it working. Thanx for the help.

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Some of the ROW links don’t work.

went direct to the VW portal, downloaded it. But when I tried to upload, it says 2022/23. Tats the same version I already have few months ago. Hmm

16 minutes ago, Alanzy said:

Some of the ROW links don’t work.

went direct to the VW portal, downloaded it. But when I tried to upload, it says 2022/23. Tats the same version I already have few months ago. Hmm

The code is 1910 or there abouts for the latest release (June 2022). I gave up talking about calendar years when they changed the way they referenced them. Still October you might get the November release. You never know.

 

I see all of the ones direct from the VW site are marked up as 1910 so on face value they are the June release. Like hot cakes best to get your map updates when they come out of the oven fresh 😉.

 

(It's all of the non European ones that the link has changed on)

It’s the same 2022/23 file I have. The version is same too

The question is, is whether the ones Martini B had marked up on the thread for outside Europe were those or whether VW has a processing error now. I don't have a copy of those files from the time when they were "found" (outside of the region I use). It could be that VW never did update the files. We are expecting mib2 files to be updated to circa 2025, the normal +5 years from the end of production of each RNS / Mib version. May be VW have stopped early. Have to wait to see what happens in the November release this year. Not long.

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17 hours ago, Alanzy said:

Some of the ROW links don’t work.

i fixed links in first post -

VW have changed ..ROW.. filenames to previously used ..MRM..

 

5 minutes ago, MartiniB said:

i fixed links in first post -

VW have changed ..ROW.. filenames to previously used ..MRM..

 

The moan was that VW hadn't changed or not updated the files from last time but without the original I can't use the trusted scientific method of comparison 🙄. Using a current popular expression in the UK. "It is what it is". Normally said by the guy you get in and means it can't be improved.

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