Seriously guys, come on!

Enjoy your cars, I personaly don't give a damn about facts, figures, statistics and stuff. If you like your car/s and enjoy them then don't worry if someone elses is faster, more economical, roomier or better in any way.

FFS, life's too short!

....Excellent, what we need is some briskodian humour to lighten this otherwise terrible sequence of posts up.

Thanks again Dave and Decron of course, for the ever so slightly OTT startrek geek impression.

Not a problem

The odd thing is I have no idea where the ST stuff came from. It seems to be locked in my subconcious and when the opportunity arises the "Inner Geek" seems to come alive!

Yawn Yawn Yawn.

A BMW 135i or even the 125D Coupe would blow these pretenders oot the water!

It's a 123d /123d coupe... I drove a 123d M sport the other day....

Mmmmm I want, guess who just started saving up big time

I've got a question for you snoopie would a Fiesta ST match a CTR going from 30-110??

The only reason i ask is, i was out earlier and i had a play with a CTR just to see how they put there power down so well and how it would blow me away:rolleyes: it was up my a#s# coming of a roundabout doing about 30 we both floored it and by the time we got to 110 he was only at the side of me:eek: Must of been a s##t driver:confused:

I cant see how a Fiesta ST would match a mighty Civic Type R:rolleyes:

What I love is, It might take me weeks to come across a CTR and have a quick blast, or an ST, to have a blast against....

The minute there's a thread about it, the insecurity from you, to type what you've put.

'Just had a play' ......

Ok, I've just come back in ... 6:10 in the morning here, after having a play with a remapped Fabia. Blew him away... :eek:

It's the fact that, you seem to get up set, not being able to match the CTR? I wouldn't be upset, different leagues away, different price range, different market....

What I love is, It might take me weeks to come across a CTR and have a quick blast, or an ST, to have a blast against....

The minute there's a thread about it, the insecurity from you, to type what you've put.

'Just had a play' ......

Ok, I've just come back in ... 6:10 in the morning here, after having a play with a remapped Fabia. Blew him away... :eek:

It's the fact that, you seem to get up set, not being able to match the CTR? I wouldn't be upset, different leagues away, different price range, different market....

:rofl:

Were do you get that im upset from that post im the opposite:D:D, i'm quite pleased that i MATCHED a CTR (not bad considering its in other league) and to know you talk out of your a##e;)

Why does a fabia VRS have to beat something fast.

It is a warm hatch, with abjectly poor stock handling. It is not a supercar racer, it will not lunch proper hot hatches.

Please please stop this now, it is getting real boring.

I agree 100%. I think this debate mainly stems from whether people agree on whether the Fiesta ST classes as a fast car either. Many reviews reckon not. Others say that it is.......then you get into the debate about modding it up to make it fast and how easy that is/ what gains you get etc.

Why does a fabia VRS have to beat something fast.

It is a warm hatch, with abjectly poor stock handling. It is not a supercar racer, it will not lunch proper hot hatches.

Please please stop this now, it is getting real boring.

The logic behind this is simple...

Fabia vRS owners, including myself are often impressed that our little derv shopping cars are capable of things other than shopping. Standard, yes they are distinctly average, but still alot better than some similar offerings by other Marques. Also, with a few choice mods, they become pretty good.....and more capable than much more expensive machinery. So I guess it's just the amazement of what it can actually do, despite it looking poor in a text book, and despite it being a cheap hatchback.

I never fail to be impressed wit mine, evan back when it was just remapped.

Yes, there are better cars, yea there are faster cars, lots of them, and yes lots of cars handle better, but when you are on a track, or on a road and you come up against some much more expensive and much "better" machinery, and you see the look of horror on the face of the other driver, the total look of disbelief as you hand him has *** on an oily platter, it makes it quite an event.

If I blew someone away in my Octavia....quite franky they expected it, and it was quite dull. If you blow someone away whilst you are driving a generic fast car, tbh, its not very satisfying at all. If whilst in yout humble Fabia, you keep up with a Subaru Impreza, what some would regard as a fast car, then quite frankly I can see why poeple are quite pleased. If you nail your mates CTR, ITR, Fiesta ST, local Skylines (standard of course) Focus ST's, etc, in essentially a "slow" 11k shopping car, owners have evrery right to feel pleased. The biggest slaters of Fabia's are the ones who have never owned one....this has gone on since it came out, mainly on this forum.....the text books come out...or some dull race on an airfield with a consertavely mapped fabia and 2 tuned octavias is mentioned.....

If I may go back to the opening post, where this started, I dont see any harm in the question that was asked. It was perfectly plausable, and I would be wondering why a Fiesta ST had passed me so quickly, when in standard trim, they are barely as quick as a 205 1.6 Gti. I personally wouldnt have asked on here, as I know what the reaction would have been.....

I agree, and if you look back through some of my early posts when I joined, these debates have been done to death....boring for some you say....dont read them then. Its as simple as that. I dont read any posts that are of no interest of me. Maybe I should read them, then post about how dull they are.....ot get some figures from a book and quote those....see what Im saying?

If everyone bought the same car, or had the same requirements from a car, the forums, and life itself would be a dull thing indeed. Lighten up folks.....

The Fabia is an amazing little car. Its a laugh to drive, it amazes everyone that goes in it - simply because most people think diesels are crap, as are Skoda's, and they normally change thier minds.

Obviously, not everyone shares that view, and clearly some poeple just like to slate them.....evn on a dedicated owners forum.......thats life.

You dont see me slating Octavia's do you, having owned, tuned, driven it to an inch of its life, thinking it was dull, and selling it again. You dont see me slating CTR's, even though they can only pass me in a straight line after 90 mph do you?

Sits back with popcorn.........

:orb_clap:

Well said

I love you Shifty lol

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you keep on about how the Fabia vRS is a "shopping car", but it's a vRS and these days the badge comes with certain expectations - Skoda's failed execution in matching those expections is another matter...

what is you problem with the whole heyford thing? the point of it was to race a remapped Octavia 1.8T againt a one click'd Fabia vRS against a remapped 4*4 Octavia 1.8T with a fmic and exhaust and the result is what it is - why is it less valid than your remapped(?) Octavia being quicker than/as fast as a 300+ bhp Evo :confused:

It might carry a VRS badge but it is group 9 insurance...

what is the ST... 14?

what is you problem with the whole heyford thing? the point of it was to race a remapped Octavia 1.8T againt a one click'd Fabia vRS against a remapped 4*4 Octavia 1.8T with a fmic and exhaust and the result is what it is - why is it less valid than your remapped(?) Octavia being quicker than/as fast as a 300+ bhp Evo :confused:

Well, firstly my comparison involved some corners......as does the real world. Airfileds prove nothing.

My Fabia, with just a remap was .1 of a second slower than a remapped Octavia at Santa Pod in 2006. Boyced off here will testify to that, as it was his Octavia. Side by side all the way.

Thus, a remapped Fabia, against a remapped Octavia 1.8t would not fall so far behind under normal circumstances. This is my problem with the comparison. And no disrespect to Phil or Bengie, but they arent known for liking the Fabia anyway. They set out to prove a point....I dont feel has been proved myself.

In all honesty, it doesnt make me lose sleep at night

It might carry a VRS badge but it is group 9 insurance...

what is the ST... 14?

...which comes back to what I was saying in this thread (before it degenerated into a schlong-measuring contest! )

Well, firstly my comparison involved some corners......as does the real world. Airfileds prove nothing.

My Fabia, with just a remap was .1 of a second slower than a remapped Octavia at Santa Pod in 2006. Boyced off here will testify to that, as it was his Octavia. Side by side all the way.

Thus, a remapped Fabia, against a remapped Octavia 1.8t would not fall so far behind under normal circumstances. This is my problem with the comparison. And no disrespect to Phil or Bengie, but they arent known for liking the Fabia anyway. They set out to prove a point....I dont feel has been proved myself.

In all honesty, it doesnt make me lose sleep at night

They may not be the biggest fans of the Fabia vRS, but how would that effect what happened when the 3 of them met up? I'm pretty much 100% sure they weren't so sly as to fill the boot of the Fabia with paving slabs yet when only remapped, you were .1 of a second slower than a remapped 1.8T at Santa Pod whereas the OneClick'd Fabia got whooped at Heyford - such different results :confused:

It might carry a VRS badge but it is group 9 insurance...

what is the ST... 14?

13. but what's that got to do with anything? the ST170 is summat daft like 1 insurance group lower than the FRS

yet when only remapped, you were .1 of a second slower than a remapped 1.8T at Santa Pod whereas the OneClick'd Fabia got whooped at Heyford - such different results :confused:

Thats exactly my point.

:popcorn:

F**k it I'm off to buy a BX 16v or an old school hot hatch.

I know i don't have to read it, what i find funny is a sensible debate turns into a wow isn't the fabia great.

That isn't direct at you Dave as to be honest your posts are reasonable, but we do get a lot of my remapped fabia did 150mph and was nowhere near the red line posts in this place.

Ex's dad had a fabia VRS and when it got to 2 years old I got him a good price on his new one, It's a nice car, but I'm just a bit sick of the silly comments.

:popcorn:

F**k it I'm off to buy a BX 16v or an old school hot hatch.

Good choice.....if you can find one. If I could find a minter, i'd have it. In white. Phase 2.

Good choice.....if you can find one. If I could find a minter, i'd have it. In white. Phase 2.

Neighbour had a minter in silver, was great as I only had the XUD not the XUDT in that.

The thing was up a garage for some work and some gimps decided to use it as a spacer between their lorry and the garage they wanted to ram raid. Was gutted as it was a proper quick car and that was before he had fettled with it.

Housemate of mine had an XUD with knackered spheres....bounced down the road like a lowrider. Really funny.

The XUTD could be fiddled so easily though. Upping the boost and fuelling was a doddle....just fiddle with screws and the wastegate.

The only thing is those BX's don't fly very well. Ask Mr P next time you see him

you problem with the whole heyford thing? the point of it was to race a remapped Octavia 1.8T againt a one click'd Fabia vRS against a remapped 4*4 Octavia 1.8T

And the moral of the story is? Dont but a generic one-click.

A revo can pull a good few car lengths away from a generic one-click.

my car can do this my car can do that blah blah blah bull****.

the airfield was opened up to everyone to have a go and only 3 of us attended and recorded the events for all to see, obviously we purposely chose the slowest remap to race against the almighty fabia

fact is we did 2 or three runs and apart from the performance of my car due to if i launched it or not the results did not vary, the fabia could not pull quite as hard as the octavia but it was bloody close until the fabia had to change gear way earlier than the octavia.

then at trax Jason was in his super dooper big turbo'd +200bhp stripped out fabia and my lowly octavia with remap/exhaust/fmic and a knackered turbo at that out pulled him down hanger straight and was a good few car lengths in front by the end and don't give me any BS about not going for it due to the damp as from 60mph up wards on a bloody long straight wet makes no difference.

and for the record i don't hate the fabia, never have hated the fabia and i think its a very good car for what it is. i have always said this but the dullards on here never seem to remember that. what does bug me is the my fabia beat a harrier jump jet type **** that gets posted.

rant over, please continue to argue like children

Cor,loooong thread:)

Used to be obsessed aged 17 with XR2's,Xr2i's,RS Turbos.

The magic of those kind of cars has never really returned for me with Ford.Then again I'm an old sod.I'd have another Fabia.

Last fast ford I liked was the Escort Cosworth:thumbup: (ST Mondy's are ok)

And the moral of the story is? Dont but a generic one-click.

A revo can pull a good few car lengths away from a generic one-click.

This is true, the generic one click map isn't good which is why I had mine customised to great effect. It made the car significantly quicker in all respects.