I installed SP1 on all my machines several weeks ago, (the joys of a volume license). I only had one issue, and that was with the soundcard drivers on one desktop. A quick reinstall of the drivers fixed that, so no problems now.

Since I've had Ultimate I have had no problems, the dreamscape desktops are rather nice. Still no SP1 on windows update for me though. I just whacked the specific Dell derived Vista drivers on instead of the Windows efforts and it's been excellent. I had RC1 with no serious problems as well.

Hasn't stopped me dual booting with XP as I have an app that won't run on Vista.

Theres also a copy of Ubuntu rattling around somewhere too

Whats the general feeling then? Stay with XP or update to Vista?

I for one prefer Vista over XP by miles. Everyone I know prefers it over the old O/S.

If you can afford it, upgrade to Ultimate

If you have a new PC, I'd go with Vista these days.

Well looks like Bill Bl00dy Gates has buggered up my Email accounts with his sodding update.

I use BT for my broadband and the BT address still works OK. My trouble is my main e-mail address is a Tiscali based one (actually it’s a Tinyworld address) and whilst I can receive, I can’t send. A couple of years ago this problem was fixed by altering the log on address to a BT one rather than a Tiscali one and although nothing has changed and I have even re-imported my e-mail addresses from my old desktop computer (this is an XP OS, but it now can not send either) I can not send from my Tiscali based accounts.

Anyone got any ideas. I have checked that nothing has changed in the ‘account’ boxes and as I have said I have re-imported the addresses but to no avail.

I am going mental as the address I have lost is my business address too!!

HEEEEELLLLLPPPPPP

I have tried to use system restore but this no longer works at all!!!!

Might be worth of a new topic that Lady E? It may get a response of one of the in house super geeks

Might be worth of a new topic that Lady E? It may get a response of one of the in house super geeks

You might be right Dave. But I have just driven back from a hard days work up in Newcastle (still thawing out) and I have to be up early tomorrow and I just can’t face any more of this tonight. I will stamp on my pooter if I do I think

Thanks anyway Dave:thumbup:

I have not heard of any such issues regarding email, all mine still work fine. Are you sure its not a problem with tiscali.

This might not be the answer to some peeps probs but I downloaded the Vista Service Pack on Friday.

There was an additional 'Important Update' yesterday covering 2007 Microsoft Office System. And this morning there's another 'Important Update' - this one is a Compatability Pack Service pack 1.

Might be worthwhile checking that you have all these important updates. HTH

Ave now uninstalled SP1 and my e-mail is still broke. Web mail still works, so I guess tiscali isn’t broke yet………………..give it time and a helping hand from Bill Gates though…………..

Webmail and pop3 mail are 2 different beasts, webmail can still be working whilst pop3 is foobarred.

I guess the vista SP was not the cause of your problem, but tiscallis pop3 server being broken.

Webmail and pop3 mail are 2 different beasts, webmail can still be working whilst pop3 is foobarred.

I guess the vista SP was not the cause of your problem, .

I realise that pop3 and Webmail are different (i think you are right in your final paragraph:thumbup:), I was just trying to show that the Tiscali facility and hosting still seemed to work. I have tried unsuccessfully to speak to anyone at BT and eventually found someone in India!!(here we go again) who couldn’t help but gave me several other numbers to help boost BTs share value. One of those numbers gives a brief statement saying there is a (unspecified) problem with some outgoing e-mails (seriously, that’s all it said).

So this is what I think might have happened. Coincidently (within a matter of a couple of hours possibly), I installed SP1 and at the same time BT when belly up. My outgoing mail setup is as ever, I have to cheat to send my Tiscali address mail through BTs servers and this has never been a problem. I have checked the settings several times and as I have said I have clean copies of my settings which I have imported. As BT is on permanent holiday and nobody is available to speak to (except the people in India who as far as I know don’t have the same sort of 7 day week of worship Christ- hence the dearth of British BT activity during this current bank holiday period) so I am stuffed till Tuesday when I will be able to shout at lots of other faceless drones and people with weirder accents than my own. On Wednesday I will have been able to find a Hit man to take out the head of BT and by Thursday I will have bought some pigeons which will be trained in delivering Invoices and carrying goods from furniture sales etc.

I would like to thank everyone for their help and hope they visit me in Durham Prison. I do not need files hidden in cakes, but cakes are good on their own.

ps.....why is it called pop3, instead of say pop12 or popX?

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Post Office Protocol -version 3. Only know this because someone told me yesterday

Good luck with your head hunting endeavours

Just an update on my problems with a non BT domain email address going through a BT exchange, it might be of use to anyone who is in a similar boat.

I wasted most of today trawling through the interweb trying to find out if something has happened when I installed SP1. Eventfully I found out from a Lady in India (via email and that took nearly an hour to find a contact address to send my question to!) that BT no longer supports other Domain emailing. But gave me 3 different options to try and make it work. This seemed b0ll0x to be honest, because if on the one hand they don’t support it, then how can I make a change that means BT will support it?? Anyhoo after wasting an hour or so doing what was suggested I was no further forward. Besides, the gist of what was suggested was to change the smtp to mail.btinternet.com rather than using the Tiscali one. I had already mentioned that I was using the mail.btinternet.com version but faceless ppl can’t respond to a direct question as their programming doesn’t allow it.

So I rang India (not intentionally of course, but where else would you expect Britain’s ‘premier’ telecoms company to cage its staff?) and got a nice chap with a name I couldn’t understand and who spoke far too quickly for me to get anywhere without asking several times for him to repeat himself. He did say that there was a fault and I should ring a 24 hour help number and I could speak to a person…………………………..

…………………… it was a sodding answer message and it said….’we have a fault!’ and then patronised me by telling me I should read their web info and use virus protection (I think they meant for emails?) and other time wasting stuff.

So I rang India again and spoke to a nice chap whose name I couldn’t catch and who spoke too quickly for me to be able to understand him without asking him to repeat himself several times and asked if I could have a number with a Human Being on it who could tell me what was going on (after all the Nice lady differed in her response to the 2 nice men)………

……..he gave me the same bl00dy answer message number.

So I am no further forward, but the majority of BTs workers seem to think there is a ‘fault’ and it will be ‘fixed’, ‘sometime’.

hth

hang on a sec

the pop3 settings are not involved in sending email, only receiving

you need to check the smtp settings if you are having problems sending emails

by and large the smtp server needs to entered as that of your isp

try each of these in your smtp field

smtp.btconnect.com

mail.btopenworld.com

smtp.btinternet.com

bt.com

smtp.lineone.net

the other thing i would do is try setting your account up again using thunderbird if your problems are with outlook, just to make sure it isn't an outlook problem

also double check you haven't inadvertantly blocked your email program in your firewall

hth

hang on a sec

the pop3 settings are not involved in sending email, only receiving

you need to check the smtp settings if you are having problems sending emails

by and large the smtp server needs to entered as that of your isp

try each of these in your smtp field

smtp.btconnect.com

mail.btopenworld.com

smtp.btinternet.com

bt.com

smtp.lineone.net

the other thing i would do is try setting your account up again using thunderbird if your problems are with outlook, just to make sure it isn't an outlook problem

also double check you haven't inadvertantly blocked your email program in your firewall

hth

I know you are trying to be helpful and for this I am grateful, but did you read my previous post?

I didn’t mention the pop3 settings and the smtp above that I posted mail.btinternet.com is the one I have successfully used for a couple for years. BT have said there is a fault.

I did also mention that I have 2 computers, each running different OS and I have copies of the address settings stored elsewhere as a back up. So it isn’t a firewall and it isn’t a Outlook problem.

Thanks for the thought though.

File copying under Vista SP1 over a network for me is still not great, but improved.

If I push the same files from my Windows 2008 RC1 server to my Vista desktop, its much quicker.

Seems Windows 2008 has something else in it for copying. Ive yet to instal the full release of 2008 from my MSDN account.

So there is some good stuff in SP1? not just the usual security updates etc.

oops skim read your previous post (thats what pink text does for me)

those are all other smtp server settings used by bt - it might be worth trying each in turn just in case the snafu is only related to the one you were using originally

It's just a shame you can't slipstream SP1 into a normal Vista install CD :( Otherwise I'd have a go at this - I tend to reinstall my OS so often that if you can't put any updates in the installer, it's not worth doing at all

i think its only a matter of time before this happens, depends if you wish to wait or not.

usually the system builders will get the integrated sp1 first and eventually it filters out to consumers

i would suspect it will turn up on the torrent network etc as soon as someone manages to do it though

Well looks like Bill Bl00dy Gates has buggered up my Email accounts with his sodding update.

I use BT for my broadband and the BT address still works OK. My trouble is my main e-mail address is a Tiscali based one (actually it’s a Tinyworld address) and whilst I can receive, I can’t send. A couple of years ago this problem was fixed by altering the log on address to a BT one rather than a Tiscali one and although nothing has changed and I have even re-imported my e-mail addresses from my old desktop computer (this is an XP OS, but it now can not send either) I can not send from my Tiscali based accounts.

Anyone got any ideas. I have checked that nothing has changed in the ‘account’ boxes and as I have said I have re-imported the addresses but to no avail.

I am going mental as the address I have lost is my business address too!!

HEEEEELLLLLPPPPPP

I have tried to use system restore but this no longer works at all!!!!

Its not Vista...

CLICKY

BT broadband customers who don't use an @btinternet.com address are being forced to jump through hoops to send email, as the national telco says it is tightening its anti-spam policies.

A change in BT's rules means individuals and businesses who use a desktop SMTP program such as Outlook or Thunderbird with their own domain name are being confronted with error number 553 when they try to send mail. SMTP error 553 is raised when a remote server rejects the mail because the sender's domain is not on its approved list.

Its not Vista...

CLICKY

Thanks, but it’s not the error I get. The nice chap in India said it was a BT fault that would be rectified. He even suggested the settings that I currently use. I get the error…

Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of inactivity. Subject 'qwe', Account: Amanda, Server: 'mail.btinternet.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F

According the nice lady in India it is because BT hates me!

Thanks, but it’s not the error I get. The nice chap in India said it was a BT fault that would be rectified. He even suggested the settings that I currently use. I get the error…

Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of inactivity. Subject 'qwe', Account: Amanda, Server: 'mail.btinternet.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F

According the nice lady in India it is because BT hates me!

Set up Googlemail, set it to US-English, turn on IMAP, point your old email address to it, verify your old address in googlemail, set your SMTP server to be google's authenticating SMTP server, say goodbye to BT's incompetence...

Thats what ive done