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Checked mine before xmas and topped up to max. Just checked mine again after 200 ish miles and its used a fair bit - off to dealers tomorrow... Warranty is there for a reason but a new car shouldn't use this much oil.

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Not good. Anyone have an opinion on whether external temperature extremes (say, near freezing or over 35 Celsius) has any effect on oil usage rate?

Edited by OzFabia

Happy new year.

Really the ambient temperature then the engine oil/coolant temperature from - degree celsius to 100 plus degrees should make no difference.

Use the correct oil for the Country & temperature ranges you use the vehicle in,

5w 30 or 5w 40 for the UK temps.

As i keep saying, if you have one not using oil, then the difference should not change that.

Best to make sure it has 3.6 litres of Fully Synthetic in and keep it up at very near to that, not let it go down by 10% or even 20% of that quantity.

If you have one using more than is reasonable after its got a few thousand miles on it,

& for how its driven, best check out why.

Or just feed it the oil.

Anyone with a 2010 or early 2011 car is maybe best to see that it got a ECU up-date when in for its service if they think it may not have. and if it needed one.

george

5w 30 here as well. Yes, I think the level may go down more quickly when at less than full capacity.

Oil consumption test next week - from what I gather it's not using a lot of oil, if the orange light comes on telling you to top up every tank of fuel or so then you have an issue. Otherwise it's within tolerance.

Dealers can't change stuff willy nilly unless Skoda uk deem it necessary.

THe Owners manual is not very good or clear, but one things is Clearly Written.

'Do not overfill with oil'.

You said you topped up to the max,

Was this dipping it Cold or Hot, after the engine had been to running temperature

& then where did you fill the oil up to on the dipstick?

Then after the 200 miles, how did you check it, cold or hot,

& where was it showing on the dipstick?

How many miles now has your car/engine done?

* An Orange light coming on might well be a big issue,

or someone just never checking or topping up.

That does not allow Skoda to get away with always saying 'within allowable usage' or 'within tolerances'

when an engine thats done enough miles without oil excessive oil usage then starts to use oil.

george

Checked when cold on flat surface an topped up to max level for cold fill. Covered approx 200 miles and then checked in the morning and level had dropped.

Oil test will show up any faults, breather pipe will prob be offered as fix.

Car used 3L in almost 9k miles

I don't think the oil use is excessive compared to other vrs' but I do think it is too much in general!

Edited by Ad Lav

Where is the Max level for cold fill on the dipstick.?

I have never seen mention of one anyplace from Skoda.

On my car, with 3.6 litres of measured cold oil, it is sitting on the top orange blob.

When hot that is just above the cross hatch.

george

I go to flat area above hatch bit if that makes sense. Not worth going any higher due to inaccuarcies in dipstick and levels.

Where is the Max level for cold fill on the dipstick.?

I have never seen mention of one anyplace from Skoda.

On my car, with 3.6 litres of measured cold oil, it is sitting on the top orange blob.

When hot that is just above the cross hatch.

george

George,why on earth does this matter?Cold or hot, in my experience there is very little difference between levels shown on the dipstick.

The hatched area represents the normal level,does it not? As I have already stated on here,bottom of the hatched area,add half a litre and it's at the top,JOB DONE,SIMPLE.

If it's in the hatched area,hot or cold,it's OK,it doesn't matter .

Mine is halfway up the cross-hatched area when hot; at the top when cold.

XV140,

It does not matter where it is if you are happy and use no oil.

You are at least checking your oil and aware of where it sits.

I am just saying where mine sits and thats from myself putting in the oil, so aware where it shows cold & hot.

No oil needs added after i have 3.6 litres in, so it never changes on the dipstick and the oil temperature runs as it should.

win win.

There is a noticable difference on my dipstick between cold oil and hot oil.

Nothing to do with oil expansion,

just all cold oil sitting in the sump, and hot still around the engine, but showing the level i am happy to run.

I see no reason to run such a small quantity of engine oil at anything like 15% less than is ideal.

To run it till it gets as low as 20% less,

or even 25% and wait for an oil light to warn you need to top up seems crazy to me.

george

Oil levels before last change,

checked before being dropping, filter changed, measured amount drained then replaced with 3.6 litres.

(The stick showed the oil at the top orange blob before the oil was hot. as it does each time mine is cold.)

& VW Polo Owners Manual.

Cold dip this morning, engine not started.

Easy to see plenty of oil, but not what the level is.

5000 miles done since last oil change so will do an oil and filter change today.

(last oil change was done when the picture in the post above were taken.)

between 5000 and 10,000 miles the oil stayed perfectly clean & golden, now not staying clean between changes,

but gets used hard, but not high mileage.

(just changing to see if there is any difference in running temp once back on Mobile 1 rather than the 5w 40 Castrol Edge.)

will check level on dipstick when hot and before i drop this oil.

george

Edit, 11.30 am

Oil up to 86 C, checked and drained. 3.6 litres oil out,

new filter and 3.5 litres of clean in untill checked later after a run to see if it needs a ticky more..

George, for someone whose car doesnt use oil, why are you so obsessed by it? Also orange low oil light is there for a reason. If you have to top up before it comes on the level it comes on should have been set higher

Interesting way of looking at things, i take it you are not really interested much in engines.

I am looking after 2 vRS and they are for fun and getting used quite hard.

They will not be repaired or replaced under warranty.

(& they are keepers)

Its a good investment to look after your engines IMO.

& costs nothing to Dip your oil when topping up the windscreen wash or opening the bonnet.

Its not the only oil levels i check.

Only ones that its slightly important to be aware of tho IMO.

I have had many engines in all states of tune or not,

and never had ones that potentially could be an oil drinker.

How many Twin Charger engines have VAG built, 10,000 or even 20,000.

It would be interesting to know how many have failed, been rebuilt or replaced.

Could it be as many as 5%.?

george

George, for someone whose car doesnt use oil, why are you so obsessed by it? Also orange low oil light is there for a reason. If you have to top up before it comes on the level it comes on should have been set higher

Sorry but I have heard horror stories where this hasn't illuminated and people's engines have gone completely dry, was on here somewhere?

Hi George I concur this would be a nice statistic to have, doubt very much it will appear though and @ grapo if you check oil at regular intervals less likely to have problems, never wait for the orange light too come on IMO check frequently

I have a feeling the number of engines we are talking about with problems , failure or requiring replacement,

might be found out by an Australian Member of the forum

before we get it from anyplace else..

george

I reckon the overall percentage will be pretty low across the vag group

I am sure it will be.

But anyone needing to pursue a Legal Case against VAG would be looking at this Product, the Twin Charger,

not all the other engines.

Some sort of official announcement or acknowledgement to owners of the vehicles would be a fair thing to expect,

just to save a number of people getting differing treatment at Dealerships.

Personally as Grapo says,

strange that i bother, since i have no oil usage.

Looking quite seriously at an order on a new SEAT, i like the look of the interior in leather and 3 doors,

but the price is looking quite crazy at the launch of the new ones when they could be discounting lots in just a few months..

george

Its a whole other can of worms if VAGs low oil level light system is deemed to be not adequate to warning the user of low oil.

Its a whole other can of worms if VAGs low oil level light system is deemed to be not adequate to warning the user of low oil.

Grapo I wouldn't let my car go down to the orange light if you check it regular it shouldn't become on issue, George keep it up

Does it say to check it regularly in the hand book though?

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