My letter arrived this morning.

I just wish the information was out now, having a remapped VRS makes me very worried about what their work will do or even if they'll do it having found the remap.

Though the car is mine and I'm allowed to do what I want to it, the work doesn't require it to be under warranty which a remap would break, so there shouldn't be a problem, I just don't want to have to pay for ANOTHER remap from shark after they do the work...

Surely Shark and other mappers offer free re-flash in the event of an inadvertent wipe by dealers?

My letter arrived this morning.

I just wish the information was out now, having a remapped VRS makes me very worried about what their work will do or even if they'll do it having found the remap.

Though the car is mine and I'm allowed to do what I want to it, the work doesn't require it to be under warranty which a remap would break, so there shouldn't be a problem, I just don't want to have to pay for ANOTHER remap from shark after they do the work...

 

So  don't take in in for the changes - it's not mandatory or safety critical so why bother if the emissions don't worry you (and given you have a remap I'd suggest they are lower down your priorities).

Ah yes, BUT if I don't take it in, and then a year or 2 down the line the EU decide to change laws and the UK changes the road tax rules to include NOX and I didn't get my car fixed, I'm screwed. And as I declined the offer from Skoda to fix it I have no recourse with them.

So  don't take in in for the changes - it's not mandatory or safety critical so why bother if the emissions don't worry you (and given you have a remap I'd suggest they are lower down your priorities).

Hm...

 

Please read bottom of that scanned letter (post: #1928 )

 

"The registred keeper detais for this mailing are provided by the DVLA"

Edited 13 October, 201510 yr by 67igor1

For Australian readers, there's more news re leasing in today's GoAuto News.

Edited 13 October, 201510 yr by Ryeman

Hm...

 

Please read bottom of that scanned letter (post: #1928 )

 

"The registred keeper detais for this mailing are provided by the DVLA"

 

And? 

That still doesn't make it mandatory to have it done. It just means that DVLA have provided a list of addresses to SUK, just like they do to car parking companies.

Would they cross reference for re-registration ?

The state registering authorities in Australia might just do that.

Ah yes, BUT if I don't take it in, and then a year or 2 down the line the EU decide to change laws and the UK changes the road tax rules to include NOX and I didn't get my car fixed, I'm screwed. And as I declined the offer from Skoda to fix it I have no recourse with them.

 

It's going to take them at least 12 months to two years to fix all the cars and regardless of that updates will always be available via the dealers for those that slipped through the net or couldn't be contacted at the time of the original letters.  Lets face it is you have remapped your car it more than likely won't meet it's type approval or road tax band now anyway - so your position would be unchanged as you already probably have no recourse so Skoda...

It's going to take them at least 12 months to two years to fix all the cars and regardless of that updates will always be available via the dealers for those that slipped through the net or couldn't be contacted at the time of the original letters.  Lets face it is you have remapped your car it more than likely won't meet it's type approval or road tax band now anyway - so your position would be unchanged as you already probably have no recourse so Skoda...

 

HMRC has ruled out any change to BIK tax bands as a result of engine modification. That happened last year and it's probably going to stick as remaps don't make a massive difference to exhaust emissions, in fact the understood situation is that it drops your CO2 emissions because your efficiency goes up, though I've never seen that proven in figures yet.

 

However changing the tax rules that affect my car if it hasn't been 'fixed' is a different matter.

 

This is all speculation and guessing, you just seem to be very sure that what you're saying is true even though it's as much of a guess as anyone elses

I'm pretty sure after 10 years or so of CR diesel engine development VW engineers are pretty knowledgeable on the limits of these motors. As they have admitted the software was active during the EU testing I suspect the bulk of their efforts is going into fortifying their legal defence dealing with litigious owners and rejected motors if they cannot resolve without adversely affecting performance and economy.

Your regulators seem to be prioritising emmissions with no regard for power outcomes.

Maintaining economy = CO2 (no increase)

Reduced emmissions = code for NOx (reduction)

Power = couldn't care less.

Your regulators seem to be prioritising emmissions with no regard for power outcomes.

Maintaining economy = CO2 (no increase)

Reduced emmissions = code for NOx (reduction)

Power = couldn't care less.

 

When VRS owners find that they've had a 25% drop in power (the results of an auto mag dyno-ing a car after tricking it into test mode) they no longer have the 'performance' car they purchased and therefore not the car they purchased, at which point should Skoda start giving people refunds?

When VRS owners find that they've had a 25% drop in power (the results of an auto mag dyno-ing a car after tricking it into test mode) they no longer have the 'performance' car they purchased and therefore not the car they purchased, at which point should Skoda start giving people refunds?

For my 103kw 2.0 it seems a drop of ~ 5kw is about it.....say, 98kw.........2 more than the 1.2 Pug.....have I mentioned err sorry.

For me torque curve maintenance is my priority.

Edited 13 October, 201510 yr by Ryeman

You are in Australia, your consumer rights will have you with a vehicle as you bought it and as described, 

Power Out put as you bought it as a minimum.

Other wise the Manufacturer that mis-lead you will need to ensure they provide you with one that is.

 

The difference is the EU Governments that 'Assume the position' and protect the Manufacturers,

Australian Authorities have no need to do that with the Volkswagen Group, just as the Government of the United States of America is not going to.

You are in Australia, your consumer rights will have you with a vehicle as you bought it and as described, 

Power Out put as you bought it as a minimum.

Other wise the Manufacturer that mis-lead you will need to ensure they provide you with one that is.

 

The difference is the EU Governments that 'Assume the position' and protect the Manufacturers,

Australian Authorities have no need to do that with the Volkswagen Group, just as the Government of the United States of America is not going to.

That's the corner of the room where class action lawyers are found.

You are in Australia, your consumer rights will have you with a vehicle as you bought it and as described, 

Power Out put as you bought it as a minimum.

Other wise the Manufacturer that mis-lead you will need to ensure they provide you with one that is.

 

The difference is the EU Governments that 'Assume the position' and protect the Manufacturers,

Australian Authorities have no need to do that with the Volkswagen Group, just as the Government of the United States of America is not going to.

That's the corner of the room where class action lawyers are found.

For my 103kw 2.0 it seems a drop of ~ 5kw is about it.....say, 98kw.........2 more than the 1.2 Pug.....

I'd say up to 10 KW... but you don't need to be worry... you're in Australia

I'd say up to 10 KW... but you don't need to be worry... you're in Australia

So the Pug has more......sorry sorry just couldn't help.))

Both our recall letters have arrived today, 1 skoda 1 vw

Service action : EA189 diesel engines

October 2015

Dear mr &mrs duped

Vehicle reg number ##########

I am writing with reference to the recently highlighted issue regarding EA 189 diesel engines and am now in a position to confirm that your vehicle is affected by this issue.

I want to reassure you that all affected vehicles, including yours,remain technically safe and roadworthy in relation to this issue,there is no need for you to take any immediate action.

HOWEVER ,A SERVICE ACTION INCLUDING YOUR CAR WILL BE REQUIRED TO RECTIFY THE ISSUE.

Technical solutions are currently being developed and the matter is being worked upon with the utmost priority.

We will contact you again when the technical solution is available,to confirm the next steps . Please be assured that,when the work relating to this issue is carried out on your vehicle ,the repair will be of no cost to you and we will do our utmost to minimise the incontinence to you .

In the meantime,please visit dedicated area on our website at www,Volkswagen .co.uk / dieselinfo where you can find the latest updates .

Yours sincerely

Alex smith

Director of Volkswagen !

I'd say up to 10 KW... but you don't need to be worry... you're in Australia

 

RIP my torques, I will miss thee

When VRS owners find that they've had a 25% drop in power (the results of an auto mag dyno-ing a car after tricking it into test mode) they no longer have the 'performance' car they purchased and therefore not the car they purchased, at which point should Skoda start giving people refunds?

 

And where is the EVIDENCE that there is going to be any drop in power?

 

Or are you just scaremongering?

speculating

The EGR's main function in the diesel is to redirect some of the exhaust gas back to the induction side to assist in lowering combustion temperatures .....it's the high temps that cause the NOx problem.

If mine needs only an ECU mod I guess the reduction in NOx will come from MORE exhaust gas recirculation (and lower power).

So

As a trade off I would like, as compensation, a five year engine and ancillaries warranty.

That's surely not too much to ask.

Send a CV off to VW in Germany.  

They need more knowledge, it is amazing just how many decades of engine building they have done 

without our help.

 

What is amazing is how since they went from Air Cooled to Water Cooled they stuggle to keep Oil and Coolant  in Engines, 

and to keep H20 out of Passengers cabins.

 

The only thing they did seem to be good at was keeping secrets, and now that appears to be up the Kyber.

'If only everything in life was as reliable as a Volkswagen'.  We would really be up the creak without a Paddle Shift.

 

Thank goodness for the DSG, they got that right.

Other than a World Wide Recall of several Million Vehicles only 2 years ago and Extended Warranties apart from in the Home Markets of the EU 

which some how was not included in the World Wide figures and gets only 'Service Campaigns.'