Modifying Your Fabia MK III

[RitxPT]

Hi guys, new here in forum. 

 

Have a Fabia Mk3 1.2 TSI DSG currently with 136HP and i'm looking to improve the intake.

 

Anyone have ideias and pics as example?

 

Thank you in advance, will post pics of my car soo.

 

[FabiaGonzales]

43 minutes ago, RitxPT said:

Hi guys, new here in forum. 

 

Have a Fabia Mk3 1.2 TSI DSG currently with 136HP and i'm looking to improve the intake.

 

Anyone have ideias and pics as example?

 

Thank you in advance, will post pics of my car soo.

 

 

Welcome to the forum!

 

For an intake, theres two main options (i've yet to see any others worth remembering);

 

Forge Carbon Fibre High-Flow intake

https://www.forgemotorsport.com/12_14_150_138_BHP_High_Flow_Carbon_Intake--product--1535.html

 

Forge induction kit

https://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/Induction_Kit_for_the_1214_Tsi_2015_Onwards--product--1434.html

 

Any intake which fits the EA211 1.4TSI or the EA211 1.2 TSI should fit, they all take the same hosing and fittings.

For the induction kit, there's also the concern of heat-soak, as it's not getting a direct cold air feed from the front grille.

 

On a side note, a box arrived today!

 

[TheFozzy]

1 hour ago, RitxPT said:

Hi guys, new here in forum. 

 

Have a Fabia Mk3 1.2 TSI DSG currently with 136HP and i'm looking to improve the intake.

 

Anyone have ideias and pics as example?

 

Thank you in advance, will post pics of my car soo.

 

 

I've been looking at getting this:

https://mst-performance.co.uk/product/air-filter-induction-intake-kit-24/

 

Costs a bit more than the Forge induction kit and looks a better in my opinion, but its not as expensive or as flashy as the carbon induction kit.

[jordi_24]

1 hour ago, TheFozzy said:

 

I've been looking at getting this:

https://mst-performance.co.uk/product/air-filter-induction-intake-kit-24/

 

Costs a bit more than the Forge induction kit and looks a better in my opinion, but its not as expensive or as flashy as the carbon induction kit.

I would love that they made this kind of intake for the 1.0 TSI, looks so clean in my opinion.

[TheFozzy]

5 minutes ago, jordi_24 said:

I would love that they made this kind of intake for the 1.0 TSI, looks so clean in my opinion.

For the EA211 1.0 TSI racing line make a high flow foam filter and high flow turbo inlet, but it still requires you to use the stock filter housing :

https://progressiveparts.com/racingline-1-0tsi-inlet-air-filter-package-ea211-engines

[RitxPT]

Thanks you all in advance. 

 

I was looking into somenthing not so expensive, but maybe its not possible 😅.

 

Did any of you guys applied any of this options?

 

That eibach kit, you wont regred it, got the same on mine. 

 

And this was my quarantine 'mod'



[cm9876]

Does anyone know much about turbo mods for the EA211 1.2tsi 110. i currently have a race chip. would a remap see much benefit. 

I have heard that decent power can be made with the turbo off of a 1.4. But has anyone actually done it? i would prefer not to decat because of mot reasons.

I think the car decent on b roads but can feel a bit sluggish on dual carriageways 

I am interested in using the turbo off the 1.4 for cost reasons

Would a bigger turbo be limited by the sock cat 

Any bolt on decats that can be easily swapped out once a year?

[Jeremy_Peeters]

1 hour ago, RitxPT said:

Thanks you all in advance. 

 

I was looking into somenthing not so expensive, but maybe its not possible 😅.

 

Did any of you guys applied any of this options?

 

That eibach kit, you wont regred it, got the same on mine. 

 

And this was my quarantine 'mod'



That still looks quite high tbh thought it would be lower?

[RitxPT]

@Jeremy_Peeters its on 16 inch wheels, with the 17 inch its just 5*

 

its seems a quite high because i just raised the car to balance the tyres

 

Heres two photos, before and after

 

Before:

 

 

 

After:

 

 

[RitxPT]

22 minutes ago, cm9876 said:

Does anyone know much about turbo mods for the EA211 1.2tsi 110. i currently have a race chip. would a remap see much benefit. 

I have heard that decent power can be made with the turbo off of a 1.4. But has anyone actually done it? i would prefer not to decat because of mot reasons.

I think the car decent on b roads but can feel a bit sluggish on dual carriageways 

I am interested in using the turbo off the 1.4 for cost reasons

Would a bigger turbo be limited by the sock cat 

Any bolt on decats that can be easily swapped out once a year?

 

How much power do you gain with racechip? I have a remap on my 1.2 and its wit 136ho and 239nm,

 

Could get a little more torque but its just fine this way

[cm9876]

The racechip site says upto 126 hp and 44 more nm not sure what stock torque is

[Jeremy_Peeters]

13 minutes ago, RitxPT said:

@Jeremy_Peeters its on 16 inch wheels, with the 17 inch its just 5*

 

its seems a quite high because i just raised the car to balance the tyres

 

Heres two photos, before and after

 

Before:

 

 

 

After:

 

 

Oh my bad haha that does look really good though 

[RitxPT]

7 minutes ago, cm9876 said:

The racechip site says upto 126 hp and 44 more nm not sure what stock torque is

 

You can get a little more with the remap, but for the turbo i dont know if its plug an play 

[TheFozzy]

6 minutes ago, cm9876 said:

The racechip site says upto 126 hp and 44 more nm not sure what stock torque is

The stock 1.2 TSI 110 Fabia makes the following:

 

Power:  108 bhp (81 kW) at 4600-5600 rpm

Torque:  175 Nm (129 ft·lb) at 1400-4000 rpm

 

Not so sure about the 1.2 TSI 90, but if you have the 90ps variant, you're going to get a much bigger gain from a tune, than you will in the 110

[FabiaGonzales]

1 hour ago, TheFozzy said:

The stock 1.2 TSI 110 Fabia makes the following:

 

Power:  108 bhp (81 kW) at 4600-5600 rpm

Torque:  175 Nm (129 ft·lb) at 1400-4000 rpm

 

Not so sure about the 1.2 TSI 90, but if you have the 90ps variant, you're going to get a much bigger gain from a tune, than you will in the 110

 

The 90PS and 110PS variants are identical bar the ecu map. They'll both map to the same power, somewhere between 130-140PS and around 230nm torque.

 

The 90PS standard is 160nm torque, it's almost a 50% gain to both power and torque!
 

1 hour ago, RitxPT said:

 

You can get a little more with the remap, but for the turbo i dont know if its plug an play 

The turbo is a bolt on swap, and should work exactly the same as the original until you remap it.

 

You'll gain a bit more power probably to 150-160bhp, or 165-170 with a sport cat or decat. Hybrid turbo's give a little bit more still, around 170-175 with standard exhaust, 180-190 with decat/sport cat. But obviously the hybrid turbo comes with a much higher price tag.

[RitxPT]

Yep, hybrid is a little more expensive

 

Where do you guys get the 1.4 turbo?

 

 

[cm9876]

17 minutes ago, FabiaGonzales said:

 

The 90PS and 110PS variants are identical bar the ecu map. They'll both map to the same power, somewhere between 130-140PS and around 230nm torque.

 

The 90PS standard is 160nm torque, it's almost a 50% gain to both power and torque!
 

The turbo is a bolt on swap, and should work exactly the same as the original until you remap it.

 

You'll gain a bit more power probably to 150-160bhp, or 165-170 with a sport cat or decat. Hybrid turbo's give a little bit more still, around 170-175 with standard exhaust, 180-190 with decat/sport cat. But obviously the hybrid turbo comes with a much higher price tag.

Do you know what cars have the correct turbo as their are multiples variants of the 1.4 engine. Does anyone know any good custom Dyno tuners in the south east?

Can the turbo be swapped without pulling the engine.

 

 

Variants of the 1.4 tsi EA 211:

CMBA/CPVA - 122 hp version. It has 0.8 bar boost pressure, 10.5:1 compression ratio. Application: Golf Mk7, Seat Leon 3, Skoda Octavia A7, Skoda Rapid, Audi A3.

CZCA/CPVB - 125 hp version with 0.8 bar boost pressure, 10.5:1 compression ratio. It meets European emission standard Euro6. Application: Golf Mk7, Skoda Rapid, Audi A3.

CHPA - 140 hp (103 kW), 250 Nm at 1,500-3,500 rpm , 1.2 bar and 10.0:1 compression ratio. Application: Golf Mk7, Seat Leon FR, Skoda Octavia A7, Audi A3.

CPTA - CHPA engine with ACT system.

CZDA/CHPB - 150 hp and 184 lb ft. The max boost is 1.2 bar; compression ratio is 10:1.

CZEA - version with ACT system based on

CZDA engine.

[FabiaGonzales]

27 minutes ago, cm9876 said:

Do you know what cars have the correct turbo as their are multiples variants of the 1.4 engine. Does anyone know any good custom Dyno tuners in the south east?

Can the turbo be swapped without pulling the engine.

 

 

Variants of the 1.4 tsi EA 211:

CMBA/CPVA - 122 hp version. It has 0.8 bar boost pressure, 10.5:1 compression ratio. Application: Golf Mk7, Seat Leon 3, Skoda Octavia A7, Skoda Rapid, Audi A3.

CZCA/CPVB - 125 hp version with 0.8 bar boost pressure, 10.5:1 compression ratio. It meets European emission standard Euro6. Application: Golf Mk7, Skoda Rapid, Audi A3.

CHPA - 140 hp (103 kW), 250 Nm at 1,500-3,500 rpm , 1.2 bar and 10.0:1 compression ratio. Application: Golf Mk7, Seat Leon FR, Skoda Octavia A7, Audi A3.

CPTA - CHPA engine with ACT system.

CZDA/CHPB - 150 hp and 184 lb ft. The max boost is 1.2 bar; compression ratio is 10:1.

CZEA - version with ACT system based on

CZDA engine.

 

The 125/150ps are 2014+ and both have the same turbo. The 150ps variant has VVT on the intake and exhaust, where the 125ps variant only has VVT on intake.

 

The 122/140ps are 2012+ but have different turbos. The 140ps variant has the same turbo as the newer 125/150ps engines and VVT on both intake/exhaust, but the 122ps variant has a smaller turbo and VVT only on intake.

 

So, avoid the 122ps ones and you should be good to go!

Edit: to be on the safe side (since there's so many different variants), a turbo from either the 140 or 150ps is your best bet.

Edited 22 April, 2020 by FabiaGonzales

[shyVRS245]

36 minutes ago, cm9876 said:

Do you know what cars have the correct turbo as their are multiples variants of the 1.4 engine. Does anyone know any good custom Dyno tuners in the south east?

Can the turbo be swapped without pulling the engine.

 

 

Variants of the 1.4 tsi EA 211:

CMBA/CPVA - 122 hp version. It has 0.8 bar boost pressure, 10.5:1 compression ratio. Application: Golf Mk7, Seat Leon 3, Skoda Octavia A7, Skoda Rapid, Audi A3.

CZCA/CPVB - 125 hp version with 0.8 bar boost pressure, 10.5:1 compression ratio. It meets European emission standard Euro6. Application: Golf Mk7, Skoda Rapid, Audi A3.

CHPA - 140 hp (103 kW), 250 Nm at 1,500-3,500 rpm , 1.2 bar and 10.0:1 compression ratio. Application: Golf Mk7, Seat Leon FR, Skoda Octavia A7, Audi A3.

CPTA - CHPA engine with ACT system.

CZDA/CHPB - 150 hp and 184 lb ft. The max boost is 1.2 bar; compression ratio is 10:1.

CZEA - version with ACT system based on

CZDA engine.

If they were open I would recommend AmD in Grays, Essex must have worked their magic on 6 of my cars, including BMW, SEAT and now Skoda. My present Superb went from 283bhp to almost 360bhp from just 2 litres and all parts standard apart from the ECU remap.

[cm9876]

Well it looks like this is happening. I low balled someone with a 140/150 hp turbo. I expected to be rejected but won. Got it for £100 with less than 5000 miles on it. How hard is a turbo swap?

[FabiaGonzales]

1 hour ago, cm9876 said:

Well it looks like this is happening. I low balled someone with a 140/150 hp turbo. I expected to be rejected but won. Got it for £100 with less than 5000 miles on it. How hard is a turbo swap?

Damn, kinda wishing i'd had a look haha 😂 gotta get my suspension sorted first though, be a pain if it fails the MOT!
 

Take off the turbo->manifold pipe, the intake->turbo pipe, unplug the wastegate control connector, and unbolt the oil feed/return lines.

 

Have a look at the new turbo to see how it's going to attach and take the old one off in that way (so you're not taking stuff off what doesn't need to be taken off). It might be a case of unbolt from head, unbolt from cat, and pull the whole unit out, don't know what the new turbo's coming with.

 

You should be fine fitting it without doing any mapping, the wastegate will prevent it overboosting though you might notice some difference in boosting characteristics (slower spool etc), but it'll come alive with a remap for sure!

[Fab1493]

10 hours ago, cm9876 said:

Well it looks like this is happening. I low balled someone with a 140/150 hp turbo. I expected to be rejected but won. Got it for £100 with less than 5000 miles on it. How hard is a turbo swap?

GREAT NEWS! 

Let us know how you get on with it please 😁

[RitxPT]

10 hours ago, cm9876 said:

Well it looks like this is happening. I low balled someone with a 140/150 hp turbo. I expected to be rejected but won. Got it for £100 with less than 5000 miles on it. How hard is a turbo swap?

 

Nice

 

Will you performance a dyno before and after? Or you just gonna put them down and remap?

[gemballa]

8 hours ago, FabiaGonzales said:

Damn, kinda wishing i'd had a look haha 😂 gotta get my suspension sorted first though, be a pain if it fails the MOT!
 

Take off the turbo->manifold pipe, the intake->turbo pipe, unplug the wastegate control connector, and unbolt the oil feed/return lines.

 

Have a look at the new turbo to see how it's going to attach and take the old one off in that way (so you're not taking stuff off what doesn't need to be taken off). It might be a case of unbolt from head, unbolt from cat, and pull the whole unit out, don't know what the new turbo's coming with.

 

You should be fine fitting it without doing any mapping, the wastegate will prevent it overboosting though you might notice some difference in boosting characteristics (slower spool etc), but it'll come alive with a remap for sure!

In addition get all the gaskets, concerning the turbo unit.

[cm9876]

 

  

10 hours ago, FabiaGonzales said:

Damn, kinda wishing i'd had a look haha 😂 gotta get my suspension sorted first though, be a pain if it fails the MOT!
 

Take off the turbo->manifold pipe, the intake->turbo pipe, unplug the wastegate control connector, and unbolt the oil feed/return lines.

 

Have a look at the new turbo to see how it's going to attach and take the old one off in that way (so you're not taking stuff off what doesn't need to be taken off). It might be a case of unbolt from head, unbolt from cat, and pull the whole unit out, don't know what the new turbo's coming with.

 

You should be fine fitting it without doing any mapping, the wastegate will prevent it overboosting though you might notice some difference in boosting characteristics (slower spool etc), but it'll come alive with a remap for sure!

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Seat-Leon-FR-1-4-TSI-TURBO-CHARGER-04E-145-721-B-4-714-miless-2015-MK3-5F/324047919719?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

 

This is what i ordered looks like he had two. still has one left

Edited 23 April, 2020 by cm9876