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59 minutes ago, Jeremy_Peeters said:

I need urgent help4B724E7D-2610-4D52-B71E-1571ABD5B0DF.thumb.jpeg.5bd92ba474a9c8ff6f9a5ec569dd1cf2.jpegi can’t get the right side strut out of the knuckle, I’ve been trying for that past 2 hours and it just won’t come out. Any help is greatly appreciated 


Gently tap a big flat blade screwdriver or pry-bar between the two halves of the clamp (where the big bolt came out from).

 

Then tap down on the knuckle (probably from behind), or up on the shock from underneath if you can reach that way.

 

Edit: Some penetrating oil (wd-40 or gt-85) in the knuckle will get you a long way too.

Edited by FabiaGonzales

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4 minutes ago, FabiaGonzales said:


Gently tap a big flat blade screwdriver or pry-bar between the two halves of the clamp (where the big bolt came out from).

 

Then down on the knuckle (probably from behind), or up on the shock from underneath if you can reach that way.

Well I got it out DA18A6AE-68A3-4103-B3F9-BC1352697283.thumb.jpeg.c0fed4429cb5cad802217fe8c956379d.jpegnow I can’t get it back in, the shock is like 2-3 cm too long 

3 minutes ago, Jeremy_Peeters said:

Well I got it out DA18A6AE-68A3-4103-B3F9-BC1352697283.thumb.jpeg.c0fed4429cb5cad802217fe8c956379d.jpegnow I can’t get it back in, the shock is like 2-3 cm too long 


Can't get it back in with the Eibach spring?


Well it came out the same length, so it's gonna go back in, somehow.

 

Try using the spring compressors to take a little length off it. You might have to rearrange the spring a bit once it's in the knuckle though to ensure its properly seated

4 minutes ago, FabiaGonzales said:


Can't get it back in with the Eibach spring?


Well it came out the same length, so it's gonna go back in, somehow.

 

Try using the spring compressors to take a little length off it. You might have to rearrange the spring a bit once it's in the knuckle though to ensure its properly seated

I used a piece of wood to support the shock so I could shorten it while knocking the knuckle but I didn’t think about how to get it back in 😬

Alright sooooo I’m done with it B7A3B878-32C4-40F9-B00D-95BCCF6B03E9.thumb.jpeg.d80286fdd7ffbeecf60b8bf116f96ffb.jpegLooks good and I really like the slightly harder ride But I have one more question (this is my first time doing anything like this so I’m really paranoid of something going wrong)

 

is it normal that the strut mount sticks out more on the left side that on the right? Both are tightened to 60nm as said in the repair manual, and I triple checked everything so I have no idea if it’s normal. Seems strange but maybe that’s just my paranoia 

 

left side:A769F005-F950-477F-A12F-FE44DDAB539F.thumb.jpeg.59566c8f4cc08919921bf1cc85b5e23b.jpeg

 

right side (was already covered up, sorry) :79D0B011-2968-4EDB-A534-C7D848F85798.thumb.jpeg.05b898923e79b2fd87ff35cd156aa8f4.jpeg

Hey guys, new here but browsed for around a year since I had my first estate. On my second one now which is a 1.2TSI 110bhp, wondering if anyone has an idea on if 1.4TSI coil packs are any improvement paired with better sparks? I dont know much of the similarities between the 1.2 and 1.4 apart from some of the turbo units in the 1.4, which I'm looking at doing at some point.

Thanks in advance

PFA: my SE L

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4 minutes ago, S18LSE said:

Hey guys, new here but browsed for around a year since I had my first estate. On my second one now which is a 1.2TSI 110bhp, wondering if anyone has an idea on if 1.4TSI coil packs are any improvement paired with better sparks? I dont know much of the similarities between the 1.2 and 1.4 apart from some of the turbo units in the 1.4, which I'm looking at doing at some point.

Thanks in advance

PFA: my SE L

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The 1.4 uses the same coils as the 1.2.

The 1.4 uses the same plugs as the 1.2.

The HPFP (high pressure fuel pump) is the same between the 1.2 and 1.4.

 

The injectors from the 1.4 variants appear to be the same as the 1.2 110PS, the 90PS appears to use different (smaller?) injectors. They're pretty much a must if you want to go beyond 200bhp with the 1.2, which will need more than just a turbo nabbed from a 1.4.


Hybrid turbo is needed for ~190bhp, probably larger turbo entirely needed for more, but then youll likely lose low end torque in return for more top end power.


Can't say for much beyond 200bhp, except around 250 youll probably start wanting to rebuild the engine with stronger rods, pistons etc. Moreso for peace of mind that it isn't as likely to blow up and leave a trail of rods and bits behind you. 

1 minute ago, FabiaGonzales said:

 

The 1.4 uses the same coils as the 1.2.

The 1.4 uses the same plugs as the 1.2.

The HPFP (high pressure fuel pump) is the same between the 1.2 and 1.4.

 

The injectors from the 1.4 variants appear to be the same as the 1.2 110PS, the 90PS appears to use different (smaller?) injectors. They're pretty much a must if you want to go beyond 200bhp with the 1.2, which will need more than just a turbo nabbed from a 1.4.


Hybrid turbo is needed for ~190bhp, probably larger turbo entirely needed for more, but then youll likely lose low end torque in return for more top end power.


Can't say for much beyond 200bhp, except around 250 youll probably start wanting to rebuild the engine with stronger rods, pistons etc. Moreso for peace of mind that it isn't as likely to blow up and leave a trail of rods and bits behind you. 

Thanks for the info! Im looking to get around 180-190bhp out of it. Ill be going for 1.4tsi turbo sent off to make it hybrid, custom exhaust, ive already got the forge intake and then see what else i can get from there. Ive also heard the HPFP and injectors from the newer 1.5tsi fit too, can you confirm? Thanks again

7 minutes ago, S18LSE said:

Thanks for the info! Im looking to get around 180-190bhp out of it. Ill be going for 1.4tsi turbo sent off to make it hybrid, custom exhaust, ive already got the forge intake and then see what else i can get from there. Ive also heard the HPFP and injectors from the newer 1.5tsi fit too, can you confirm? Thanks again

 

The injectors will fit. Can't say if they're bigger or smaller than the 1.4

1.2TSI uses Injectors 04E906036E (x-'15) / 04E906036Q ('15-'16) / 04E906036AF ('16-current)

1.4TSI uses Injectors 04E906036T (x-'16) / 04E906036AF ('16-current)

1.5TSI uses Injectors 04E906036G (x-current)

 

They're all the same base part number, so physically they'll fit, whether the injection pattern, flow or anything is different is unknown.

 

HPFP is a probably, but may likely require fabrication/modification. The high pressure outlet is in the same orientation, but the inlet is not, it's fitted via a rubber hose so it's probably manuevrable anyway.

1.2 & 1.4 use 04E127026x pumps (like the injectors, they use a few variants, sharing some matching part numbers).

The 1.5 uses 05E127027 part number. Note the differences in the part number, it's a different physical shape/size.

 

So the pumps use different part numbers, and are physically different, though they look similar enough to what it might fit with some adaptation.

Bear in mind, the 1.2 & 1.4 use (i believe) 200 bar rail pressure, and the 1.5 uses 350 bar, it would probably require some ecu coding or mapping adjustments to allow for it, as that's significantly higher, it may just go limp mode or not even run - that's if you can get it to fit and pump fuel.

 

25 minutes ago, FabiaGonzales said:

 

The injectors will fit. Can't say if they're bigger or smaller than the 1.4

1.2TSI uses Injectors 04E906036E (x-'15) / 04E906036Q ('15-'16) / 04E906036AF ('16-current)

1.4TSI uses Injectors 04E906036T (x-'16) / 04E906036AF ('16-current)

1.5TSI uses Injectors 04E906036G (x-current)

 

They're all the same base part number, so physically they'll fit, whether the injection pattern, flow or anything is different is unknown.

 

HPFP is a probably, but may likely require fabrication/modification. The high pressure outlet is in the same orientation, but the inlet is not, it's fitted via a rubber hose so it's probably manuevrable anyway.

1.2 & 1.4 use 04E127026x pumps (like the injectors, they use a few variants, sharing some matching part numbers).

The 1.5 uses 05E127027 part number. Note the differences in the part number, it's a different physical shape/size.

 

So the pumps use different part numbers, and are physically different, though they look similar enough to what it might fit with some adaptation.

Bear in mind, the 1.2 & 1.4 use (i believe) 200 bar rail pressure, and the 1.5 uses 350 bar, it would probably require some ecu coding or mapping adjustments to allow for it, as that's significantly higher, it may just go limp mode or not even run - that's if you can get it to fit and pump fuel.

 

Awesome stuff, the 1.5tsi hpfp was more just me being curious, but I think ill attempt to look into the injectors. May I ask how do you find all the part numbers so easily? Thanks again

6 minutes ago, S18LSE said:

Awesome stuff, the 1.5tsi hpfp was more just me being curious, but I think ill attempt to look into the injectors. May I ask how do you find all the part numbers so easily? Thanks again

 

http://catcar.info/en/

 

You have to know which engine goes in which car (which is sometimes a bit time consuming finding the right years and models etc) but once you know that you're good generally. I've been using it to get a parts list for suspension components for my upcoming suspension rebuild.

Our engines are EA211 series, in that series, there's the 1.0 MPI, 1.0 TSI, 1.2 TSI, 1.4 TSI, 1.5 TSI, 1.5 TSI EVO. There's probably more than that but i can't remember. The 1.8T/2.0T found in A1 and Polo models are of EA888 series, and use a different ECU and completely different component set (with only a few similarities).

2 minutes ago, FabiaGonzales said:

 

http://catcar.info/en/

 

You have to know which engine goes in which car (which is sometimes a bit time consuming finding the right years and models etc) but once you know that you're good generally. I've been using it to get a parts list for suspension components for my upcoming suspension rebuild.

Our engines are EA211 series, in that series, there's the 1.0 MPI, 1.0 TSI, 1.2 TSI, 1.4 TSI, 1.5 TSI, 1.5 TSI EVO. There's probably more than that but i can't remember. The 1.8T/2.0T found in A1 and Polo models are of EA888 series, and use a different ECU and completely different component set (with only a few similarities).

Appreciate it alot mate. Helped me out loads! Ill be sorting coilovers, adjustable droplinks and arbs soon enough so ill put a pic up when ive gotten through those :) keep us posted on yours pal

Does any one know if the cats are the same. would the cat from the 1.4/1.5/1.8 be higher flow than the stock cat

On 01/05/2020 at 19:16, cm9876 said:

Does any one know if the cats are the same. would the cat from the 1.4/1.5/1.8 be higher flow than the stock cat

 

On 01/05/2020 at 19:50, cm9876 said:

The fabia has a similar looking cat. Would pre-cat delete be possible. http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=263791.0

 

1.2 and 1.4 share the same part numbers, but the 1.8 looks more interesting, it seems to lack the secondary cat/resonator, but having seen someone put the tailpipe from the polo gti straight onto a fabia, i believe they're the same diameter pipe.

 

1.2T/1.4T

Skoda RAPID Spaceback (NH1) Catalytic converter / Particlefilter ...

 

1.8T

VW POLO 6R GTI 1.8 TSI KATALIZATOR 6C0131701F 16^ - 7588051039 ...

 

It looks like the bracket that holds the bottom of the cat to the engine block is in a different position between the two. So it'd maybe require a bit of modification.

 

Pre-cat delete? The only thing that's before the cat is the turbo! Before that is the engine. That's the main cat, and the other bit is a secondary cat, the resonator is in the second half of the pipe which goes all the way to the exhaust tip.

That post is referring to a much older engine where there is indeed a pre-cat before the main cat (the polo wrc has the same design as that).

In the 1.2/1.4/1.8 it's actually the main cat. The other thing after is a secondary cat (which the 1.8T doesn't have).

 

If you can get hold off a 1.8T one for cheap, it may well be a worthwhile upgrade. Provided you have the means to alter the position of that bracket if need be.

I've no idea what cell rating the stock one is (800? 400?), but if you chose to get a sport-cat, a 100 cell will almost certainly fail the MOT (they're only really good for countries with barely any emissions testing), while a 200 Cell one should pass provided it's got some heat in it before the test.

There's not a great deal extra performance gained going from a 200 cell to 100 or even a full decat, the main gain is going from OE to a 200 cell.

 

The 1.8T can manage over 300bhp fairly easily with the OE exhaust, i think a 1.2 should be just fine!

Edited by FabiaGonzales

On 03/05/2020 at 04:16, FabiaGonzales said:

 

 

1.2 and 1.4 share the same part numbers, but the 1.8 looks more interesting, it seems to lack the secondary cat/resonator, but having seen someone put the tailpipe from the polo gti straight onto a fabia, i believe they're the same diameter pipe.

 

1.2T/1.4T

Skoda RAPID Spaceback (NH1) Catalytic converter / Particlefilter ...

 

1.8T

VW POLO 6R GTI 1.8 TSI KATALIZATOR 6C0131701F 16^ - 7588051039 ...

 

It looks like the bracket that holds the bottom of the cat to the engine block is in a different position between the two. So it'd maybe require a bit of modification.

 

Pre-cat delete? The only thing that's before the cat is the turbo! Before that is the engine. That's the main cat, and the other bit is a secondary cat, the resonator is in the second half of the pipe which goes all the way to the exhaust tip.

That post is referring to a much older engine where there is indeed a pre-cat before the main cat (the polo wrc has the same design as that).

In the 1.2/1.4/1.8 it's actually the main cat. The other thing after is a secondary cat (which the 1.8T doesn't have).

 

If you can get hold off a 1.8T one for cheap, it may well be a worthwhile upgrade. Provided you have the means to alter the position of that bracket if need be.

I've no idea what cell rating the stock one is (800? 400?), but if you chose to get a sport-cat, a 100 cell will almost certainly fail the MOT (they're only really good for countries with barely any emissions testing), while a 200 Cell one should pass provided it's got some heat in it before the test.

There's not a great deal extra performance gained going from a 200 cell to 100 or even a full decat, the main gain is going from OE to a 200 cell.

 

The 1.8T can manage over 300bhp fairly easily with the OE exhaust, i think a 1.2 should be just fine!

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Got the old turbo off (bottom) took a few hours. Will try putting the new one on tomorrow.

6 hours ago, cm9876 said:

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Got the old turbo off (bottom) took a few hours. Will try putting the new one on tomorrow.

Great news! Please keep us updated, I'm sure everyone here is looking forward to seeing the results 😁

 

18 hours ago, Fab1493 said:

Great news! Please keep us updated, I'm sure everyone here is looking forward to seeing the results 😁

Help!! 

 

I have the new turbo on but after about 1 min of driving the EPC light came on. Almost feels like a boost leak but I've checked all the pipes.

Hi guys,
can someone who retrofitted MC front lip or rear diffuser share close up images of the fitment. I just got delivered some MC parts, but i think that front lip will stick out in the middle if it sits right on the sides and vice versa.. Some images would help a lot!!

THANKS!

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On 29/04/2020 at 22:03, Jeremy_Peeters said:

Alright sooooo I’m done with it B7A3B878-32C4-40F9-B00D-95BCCF6B03E9.thumb.jpeg.d80286fdd7ffbeecf60b8bf116f96ffb.jpegLooks good and I really like the slightly harder ride But I have one more question (this is my first time doing anything like this so I’m really paranoid of something going wrong)

 

is it normal that the strut mount sticks out more on the left side that on the right? Both are tightened to 60nm as said in the repair manual, and I triple checked everything so I have no idea if it’s normal. Seems strange but maybe that’s just my paranoia 

 

left side:A769F005-F950-477F-A12F-FE44DDAB539F.thumb.jpeg.59566c8f4cc08919921bf1cc85b5e23b.jpeg

 

right side (was already covered up, sorry) :79D0B011-2968-4EDB-A534-C7D848F85798.thumb.jpeg.05b898923e79b2fd87ff35cd156aa8f4.jpeg

something a miss there, the left side looks correct you have an issue with the right side though

15 hours ago, cm9876 said:

 

Help!! 

 

I have the new turbo on but after about 1 min of driving the EPC light came on. Almost feels like a boost leak but I've checked all the pipes.

Ive ordered an obd reader which should come later today. (I miss vcds 😪 ) I have been reading up about this could it be a bad waste gate?

On 01/05/2020 at 15:54, S18LSE said:

Thanks for the info! Im looking to get around 180-190bhp out of it. Ill be going for 1.4tsi turbo sent off to make it hybrid, custom exhaust, ive already got the forge intake and then see what else i can get from there. Ive also heard the HPFP and injectors from the newer 1.5tsi fit too, can you confirm? Thanks again

 

Hi, 

 

Can you post pictures of the intake please?

 

34 minutes ago, cm9876 said:

Ive ordered an obd reader which should come later today. (I miss vcds 😪 ) I have been reading up about this could it be a bad waste gate?

 

 

7 minutes ago, cm9876 said:

Filmed this just now. havent touched the car since last night. defiantly no boost leak. it flew through 1st, then epc and engine light came on and no boost

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LVWi61b2OmvzIpJvK2QRpXN0tJwhCDV3/view?usp=sharing

 

 

That is boosting hard! I'm about to go out for my bi-weekly shop and drive, i'll disconnect the wastegate connection and see if it behaves similarly (i suspect then it'd probably limp mode the moment i start it though). I'll film it too.

It sounds like it's overboosting (that surge of hiss as the rpms suddenly pick up real fast) considerably as it pulls to higher revs, possibly wastegate not opening, or the ECU wondering why tf the turbo is flowing so much more all of a sudden.

 

What happens if you drive gently until you get into 2nd and boot it while at ~2k rpm? If it's overboosting it'll pull really hard for a moment and then probably kick to limp mode.

 

Out of curiosity, did you replace all the gaskets and stuff? And are you sure the wastegate connection is properly connected?

34 minutes ago, RitxPT said:

 

Hi, 

 

Can you post pictures of the intake please?

 

Only one I have pal

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