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Hi, got a question regarding the suspension, since I'm pulling the trigger on eibach lowering springs I'm gona replace the shocks as well. I've seen sachs got 2 versions 1 for normal suspension and 1 for sport suspension. So my question is should I go for the sport suspension one since I'm lowering it in the mean time? Or any other recommendations like KYB or Bilstein B4?

Hi Tom, as the optional sport suspension is lowered, I'd go for the sports shocks as well to help prevent any issues with the end-stops.  

Fitted Bilstein B8 mono sport shocks to my standard VRS springs. I have found them excellent, as they really keep the car stable on uneven roads at speed. Far better than the VRS standard sport shocks. Rang Bilstein direct to get their advice before I spent the money, they were really helpful.

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1 hour ago, Warrior193 said:

Hi Tom, as the optional sport suspension is lowered, I'd go for the sports shocks as well to help prevent any issues with the end-stops.  

Thank you for the advice :)

 

1 hour ago, roaddetective said:

Fitted Bilstein B8 mono sport shocks to my standard VRS springs. I have found them excellent, as they really keep the car stable on uneven roads at speed. Far better than the VRS standard sport shocks. Rang Bilstein direct to get their advice before I spent the money, they were really helpful.

It's a normal station not the VRS, would love to go for the B8 shocks with the b12 total kit but it's out of my price range. 580 euro for the B12 kit vs 280 for eibach springs and 4 sachs shocks.

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But which is the oem for standard shocks, and any preferences to kyb vs sachs?

All i can say here is be careful choosing 'VRS' parts for a non Vrs Fabia. The 1.2 is especially light over the front end and my old one as standard had much less grip and more body roll than my standard VRS. 

And thats before you consider my 1.2 had very decent tyres and new shocks. The vrs on cheap old tyres and worn out shocks still handles far better as 'standard'

I don't know if the sports shocks are any different in terms of damping or whether its just the length which is reduced to accommodate the vRS' lower suspension

You would probably be best to consider a specific shock and spring arrangement as said above so you know they are going to work well together on your car.

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10 minutes ago, clarendon462 said:

All i can say here is be careful choosing 'VRS' parts for a non Vrs Fabia. The 1.2 is especially light over the front end and my old one as standard had much less grip and more body roll than my standard VRS. 

And thats before you consider my 1.2 had very decent tyres and new shocks. The vrs on cheap old tyres and worn out shocks still handles far better as 'standard'

I don't know if the sports shocks are any different in terms of damping or whether its just the length which is reduced to accommodate the vRS' lower suspension

You would probably be best to consider a specific shock and spring arrangement as said above so you know they are going to work well together on your car.

 

The article number is 312 594 for the front sachs "sport" shocks and 280 565 for the rears which are rated for evry fabia. As for the eibach pro kit it's the E10-79-001-01-22 kit which is diffrent from the VRS I never said I wanted vrs shocks but I'm not sure as to wheter ther was a "sports" lowered suspension on the 1.2 unless on the elegance model or rs-line which I've seen passing by on secondhandsites here

That should be fine then, think there was some confusion as to whether you were fitting 'vrs' lowering springs.

The only fabia AFAIK to have the sports suspension is the VRS. All other models including elegance and any 'sport' models of the 1.2 have standard shocks.

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4 minutes ago, clarendon462 said:

That should be fine then, think there was some confusion as to whether you were fitting 'vrs' lowering springs.

The only fabia AFAIK to have the sports suspension is the VRS. All other models including elegance and any 'sport' models of the 1.2 have standard shocks.

 

I was confused bout that also because there are 2 sques in the sachs shocks normal and sport which I guess second sque would work better maybe because of the shorter springs.

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Currently I've narrowed my search down to the eibach pro springs, and for the shocks I've read sachs is the original suspension on the fabia? What would you guys recommend for comfort on a normal budget, sachs super touring, kyb ultra sr, koni str.t. The konis are monotube which is sportyer I read and the kybs would be between the sachs and konis in hardness from my understanding. Honestly do think the stock suspension is way to hard and bounces a little, so I wanna make a good choice as I pull the trigger. Also hear the console bushes replacing would be adviced.

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On 20. 08. 2017. at 14:56, roaddetective said:

Fitted Bilstein B8 mono sport shocks to my standard VRS springs. I have found them excellent, as they really keep the car stable on uneven roads at speed. Far better than the VRS standard sport shocks. Rang Bilstein direct to get their advice before I spent the money, they were really helpful.

 

I'm just about to do the same, keep the stock springs and fit the Bilstein B8 - do you need any other modifications (new drop links, or they fit stock 100%), there is no clunking? Youtubers say the B8 is for lowering springs, I don't plan going down that road...

 

How do you feel about the comfort/road noise, is it more silent? I'm basically fed up with the crashy/noisy ride the vRS has.

 

How I fell in love with the BIlsteins, tried out an old Clio RS with a set of Bilstein B12 or B14, and it was amazing how the car is dead silent over bumps and potholes, although quite hard. This is what I seek for.

No mods needed, fit and forget, the ride is firm but not crashy, body control is much better so no wallowing and it's quiet as well.

11 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

No mods needed, fit and forget, the ride is firm but not crashy, body control is much better so no wallowing and it's quiet as well.

 

Admit you're a Bilstein sales rep as this are the exact words I wanted to hear :) are you talking about the exact setup - vRS TDI, with vRS springs and Bilstein B8? :D

 

I think that ~430EUR for B8 allround is something worth stretchiing out as the Sachs are ~240EUR, and I haven't changed the shocks for 12 years and 175kkm!

I actually have the full B12 setup which is the firmer Eibach springs and B8's and mine is a 2.0 petrol (same running gear as the VRS) so a fair bit lighter at the front than the VRS.

 

I've always used Bilstein or Koni because of the quality difference.

2 hours ago, Juka said:

 

I'm just about to do the same, keep the stock springs and fit the Bilstein B8 - do you need any other modifications (new drop links, or they fit stock 100%), there is no clunking? Youtubers say the B8 is for lowering springs, I don't plan going down that road...

 

How do you feel about the comfort/road noise, is it more silent? I'm basically fed up with the crashy/noisy ride the vRS has.

 

How I fell in love with the BIlsteins, tried out an old Clio RS with a set of Bilstein B12 or B14, and it was amazing how the car is dead silent over bumps and potholes, although quite hard. This is what I seek for.

Hi Juka

The shocks fitted no problem.  I must have had them on the car at least a year now and I have been very happy with them ever since. I did not want to go with coil overs, so this set up works for me. Can't say I have noticed any difference in comfort as the suspension is still as firm as it was originally. But as my earlier post said, far better handling over our British uneven roads with the Bilsteins. I certainly think the original shocks are built to a price, a low price!

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