@tigermad

Fabia MK3 currently. Some Karoq 1.0TSI.     There will be other as well, just check configurators.

 

@Janner74

Do you have this in writing from Skoda UK?

I would be wanting that and to talk to someone not following a script.

Edited 19 July, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot

5 minutes ago, tigermad said:

Which vws are disappearing?

No 1.5tsi Passats anymore for a start....

2 minutes ago, Roottootemoot said:

@tigermad

Fabia MK3 currently. Some Karoq 1.0TSI.

 

@Janner74

Do you have this in writing from Skoda UK?

I would be wanting that and to talk to someone not following a script.

Karoq 1.0 tsi? I thought we were talking about the 1.5 tsi that’s still on the Karoq 

@tigermad

Why would you think i meant that, you quoted what i wrote saying some 1.0 TSI 110/115 ps with gpf's.

 

There are 1.5TSI Karoq models going as well though.

Edited 19 July, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot

12 minutes ago, Roottootemoot said:

No point them driving as needed in testing if the 'Real world' experience driving them can be dangerous.

 

lol, yeah. Not too dangerous on a rolling road.

They had to able to reproduce as they were imported, and the UK was testing.

 

The RDE testing was and is a joke.

They should test as they do,

then with also with a 100kg weight strapped in each seat, ie, 2,3,4,5,6,7 seaters. and with weight in the boot.  as maybe Taxis, or private cars could be getting used...

16 hours ago, Hairball said:

 

My humble apologies shyvrs245, I just clicked on the highlighted quote, sorry.

 

Post updated to reflect incorrect quote.

 

The Shy sounds really ANGRY, hope he doesn't send the boys round.....

3 minutes ago, jimmer69 said:

 

The Shy sounds really ANGRY, hope he doesn't send the boys round.....

No all good nice and chilled watching the Golf as got 3 days off work.

1 minute ago, shyVRS245 said:

No all good nice and chilled watching the Golf as got 3 days off work.

 

Excellent, chilling with a few beers possibly🙂

Rory & Tiger will have time to sit with feet up and watch the Open.

The new CO2 targets, if I am not mistaken, are to be reached as a mean number of the total fleet. That will be achieved with the diesels (almost 50 % of the sales) plus the hybrids and electrics. I don't think you can achieve such numbers with any petrol engine.

There are manufacturers that have no diesels any more but hybrid petrols and petrols.   

Maybe VW Group should make cars lighter.  Maybe they should have been working harder and not put billions into TDI's and Diesel Hybrids while cheating emissions from 2007/2008.

 

Suzuki have petrols & light hybrids but are doing the new Jimny manual and the automatic with ridiculously high emissions.

What they are doing is limiting the sale / registrations of the Jimny in Europe so that the company average does not go high.

They can do low emission petrols, which will be why VW bought 20% of Suzuki but then peed them off.

Suzuki buying back the final shares on the eve of the Dieselgate scandal become world wide news.

Toyota becoming the biggest car manufacturer in the world again.  (I wonder who lent Suzuki the money that night.)

Edited 19 July, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot

Impossible CO2 targets are simply tax (money) raising measures. All manufacturers will have to pay up. The targets are carefully chosen. And when they start meeting the targets, the EU will shift the goal posts down.

Just like fuel duty, cigarette, booze, VAT, etc all carefully chosen to maximise income.

 

Its called socialism.

 

Personally I would prefer warmer winters and fewer lectures from pubescent girls.

11 minutes ago, xman said:

Impossible CO2 targets are simply tax (money) raising measures. All manufacturers will have to pay up. The targets are carefully chosen. And when they start meeting the targets, the EU will shift the goal posts down.

Just like fuel duty, cigarette, booze, VAT, etc all carefully chosen to maximise income.

 

Its called socialism.

 

Personally I would prefer warmer winters and fewer lectures from pubescent girls.

 

Correction: it's called progress. You might take such a cynical view of air pollution and global warming if someone you cared about died from a breathing condition caused or exacerbated by car air pollution. A problem that is very serious and getting worse. Individual cars polluting less but in orders of magnitude greater numbers. If you take the view that there are other countries in the world and that in the UK we are extremely blessed with a temperate climate but that global warming is as it's name suggests a global issue and might affect you with a warmer winter but causes massive problems for human populations elsewhere not to mention other species.

 

I pay plenty of tax including BIK for my petrol car and there are lots of reasons to be cynical about taxation, especially when it has the greatest effect on the poor. But what you're saying is extremely short sighted.

 

Without this "socialism" there would be no NHS everybody would have to fend for themselves and we'd be like America. Land of the Free, Home of the Brave, where people die of easily preventable and curable conditions because they can't afford healthcare.

 

Without this 'socialism' the level of advancement for alternative power vehicles wouldn't be where it is today. We wouldn't have electric and hybrids because there wouldn't be any monetary incentive for capitalistic entities i.e. the entire automotive industry to have invested in the tech. Punitive taxation is one of the only ways to motivate corporations to alter practices. You aim for where it hurts - their coffers. All they give a damn about is money so you sculpt the financial landscape to make them move in that direction. And we've seen from the dieselgate scandal that even then they try to cheat and get around it. So it seems odd to me that your ire would be aimed at socialist government and institutions when the people who deserve it are mega rich and greedy CEOs who dodge the taxes that you and I have to pay and make more in a month than we will ever see in our lifetimes.

 

Everyone is free to have their opinion but blimey if you want to back those people in your sentiment and outlook that's just something I can't get my head around.

3 hours ago, Roottootemoot said:

Rory & Tiger will have time to sit with feet up and watch the Open.

Rory is trying to make you eat your words. Currently -5 after 16 holes and stands at 2 over close to the projected cut of 1 over.

23 hours ago, fidelio said:

I believe that software only covers for it and i will explain why.

Mine is an MY18 bought a bit over a year ago. When new, it didnt have the kangaaroo included. Instead it had a behavior of reving itself when starting off (even with no foot on the gas petal). Back then, most people called it "anti-stall" mechanism. A few months after i had an ECU fault incident and skoda service applied a software update. That's when the anti-stall mechanism was gone ang kangaroo popped out of the hood.    

 

I had exactly the same issue with my Octavia with this engine - from new (purchased November 17) it would over-rev especially when reversing off the drive.  After an ECU update, this was fixed but the hesitation and the kangarooing in first gear was a lot, lot worse.

@Stevieweevie

 

In the end we are all going to die. But the world population is still growing exponentially. We are also living longer and more live with dementia.

 

And before total catastrophe strikes, there will be more 'world wars', and air pollution will seem the last of your worries

 

That's life.

Just now, xman said:

@Stevieweevie

 

In the end we are all going to die. But the world population is still growing exponentially. We are also living longer and more live with dementia.

 

And before total catastrophe strikes, there will be more 'world wars', and air pollution will seem the last of your worries

 

That's life.

 

With respect your sentiment exemplifies the fallacy of relative privation. You are right. We are all going to die, but to contrast any issue, belief, philosophy against that backdrop of futilism isn't a valid response.

 

Because if that's your view and you follow it wholly to it's conclusion then nothing matters at all and it's pointless to do anything, think anything or to even exist.

 

I'm a bit anal and I've gone totally off topic here. But basically if you're resigned to nothing mattering then your preferences you mentioned earlier are worthless. You're arguing that what you think ultimately doesn't matter, which isn't a strong argument in any given case. If you don't care then why should I?

13 minutes ago, Stevieweevie said:

 

With respect your sentiment exemplifies the fallacy of relative privation. You are right. We are all going to die, but to contrast any issue, belief, philosophy against that backdrop of futilism isn't a valid response.

 

Because if that's your view and you follow it wholly to it's conclusion then nothing matters at all and it's pointless to do anything, think anything or to even exist.

 

I'm a bit anal and I've gone totally off topic here. But basically if you're resigned to nothing mattering then your preferences you mentioned earlier are worthless. You're arguing that what you think ultimately doesn't matter, which isn't a strong argument in any given case. If you don't care then why should I?

He does care because his car is nicer than yours.

@shyVRS245 many thanks for pulling me out of the black hole I just dug only to find a Stevieweevie lying in wait....possibly one of Lee's henchmen....

👍

Edited 19 July, 20196 yr by xman

8 hours ago, agedbriar said:

Me too. The current 1.5 TSI won't be able to survive in the oncoming 95 g CO2/km austerity.

I doubt that many engines will be able to meet that level and be drivable if the 1.5 TSI is anything to go by. I guess that will force most cars with an ICE to be hybrid.

 

Whilst emissions need to keep being reduced an increasing number of hybrids is going to bring it's own problems with increased production and disposal of batteries and the fact that a lot of hybrid owners don't use the battery power, though the design could ensure that it is.

Light hybrid can work and reduce emissions and fuel consumption. 

Plug in Hybrid was a con and people are not being fooled & the UK Government were not fooled luckily.

 

Kidolgy and using up EV charging points for the parking. It is good that the grants were taken away. Manufacturers were & are at it just building fat cars.

 

If they made more effort building cars that had a max 100 mph top speed, less useless tat of trim and lighter materials on the cars that are affordable they would onto something.

That is not what the German Manufacturers are interested in doing and they are going to have to change their ways,

Back to the 1.5tsi, add the Skoda Scala to the list where the 1.5tsi has been deleted.

 

So far 1.5tsi suddenly gone missing in action in

 

Skoda Scala

Skoda Superb

Skoda Kodiaq

Seat Tarraco

Seat Leon

VW Passat

Audi A3

  

There may be more casualties

 

Draw your own conclusion

 

Autocar / Auto Express not bothering to say anything about this.  Elephant in the boardroom, just like the wooly jumper.

Adds fuel to the fire of those who want to reject their cars!