Under £30,000 or over £30,000 in the UK depending on which you go for.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cheaper.

 

 

Edited 2 December, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot

e-2008 not going to be sub £30,000. over £35,000 maybe nearer £40,000.

 

 

Is Auto Express lining the Skoda Kamiq up as their Car of the year, is it really already their 'Class Favourite?'

 

 

The Sister / Half Sister car...

 

 

 

Edited 3 December, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot

 

 

 

 

Sorry if these were posted previously, i just caught up on them.

Just after 14 min 8 seconds i had to replay to hear what it was he said.

 

 

 

Edited 10 December, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot

 

 

A Peugeot e-208 will be in my local Dealerships showroom on the 14th January 2020.

I presume that will be pretty much the same in others around the UK.

 

 

 

 

Edited 18 December, 20196 yr by Roottootemoot

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/volkswagen-previews-new-entry-level-id-model-sketch

 

 

From 9 mins 40 the Peugeot e-208.

 

@28.20

 

 

 

Edited 2 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

 

Not all sub £30,000 New.

 

Very different results here. Very different conditions maybe.  One nutter driver and one just driving...

 

 

 

Edited 3 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

Good news for anyone considering a Nissan Leaf EV. The maker has announced the price for all 40kWh versions is being reduced by £1,650 which means the entry-level Acenta now starts from £26,345 while the high-spec Tekna model falls to £29,345. This has benefits for company car users from April 2020 as they all qualify for the sub-£30,000 P11D price bracket as well as the zero per cent Benefit-in-Kind tax rating for electric cars.

7 hours ago, shyVRS245 said:

Good news for anyone considering a Nissan Leaf EV. The maker has announced the price for all 40kWh versions is being reduced by £1,650 which means the entry-level Acenta now starts from £26,345 while the high-spec Tekna model falls to £29,345. This has benefits for company car users from April 2020 as they all qualify for the sub-£30,000 P11D price bracket as well as the zero per cent Benefit-in-Kind tax rating for electric cars.

 

And made in England too, fantastic, might have to rethink the Zoe strategy though one can get 0% finance and contribution for the Zoe so going to be a close decision for April, bes interesting to see where petrol prices will be in the Middle East kicks off big time. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 4 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

8 hours ago, shyVRS245 said:

 they all qualify for the sub-£30,000 P11D price bracket as well as the zero per cent Benefit-in-Kind tax rating for electric cars.

The main (only?) reason they've cut the prices?

On 04/01/2020 at 10:23, lol-lol said:

 

And made in England too, fantastic, might have to rethink the Zoe strategy though one can get 0% finance and contribution for the Zoe so going to be a close decision for April, bes interesting to see where petrol prices will be in the Middle East kicks off big time. 

I'd still get a Zoe for the simple fact new Zoe has CCS charging. Chademo is stuck at 50kW, whereas we already have 150kW CCS. 

 

On 04/01/2020 at 11:29, PetrolDave said:

The main (only?) reason they've cut the prices?

Probably due to poor demand, it's a poor facelift. They haven't done enough to keep up with the competition. 

14 minutes ago, wyx087 said:

I'd still get a Zoe for the simple fact new Zoe has CCS charging. Chademo is stuck at 50kW, whereas we already have 150kW CCS. 

 

Probably due to poor demand, it's a poor facelift. They haven't done enough to keep up with the competition. 

 

Yes I am still leaning towards the Zoe.  250 mile range and I prefer the styling and I am a bit of a Renault fan.  Zoe CCS is only 50 Kw charge rate but as Zoe can do 5 miles per kWh even a 20 minute charge is going to give say 15kWh and 75 miles but should not need to charge anywhere but home and overnight most of the time or at a hotel/work charger. 

@lol-lol

Not under £30,000........

 

 

Edited 16 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

On 16/01/2020 at 14:33, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

@lol-lol

Not under £30,000........

 

 

 

Looks like Renault have dropped the lease battery option.

Do not mind if there is really cheap finance and the battery guarantee is good, I think I ham hearing 80% 8 year after sale which is pretty good.

Most ICE cars I have put on the rolling road are down to that or less after 8 years for power if not fuel economy.   

 

Love the second video. 

German cars and Jaguar not too clever.

 

Well done Leaf, Kia and Tesla.

 

There still needs to be a Long range  rear wheel drive only model 3 ie 300 mile real range.  Hopefully will follow in a few months.   

 

Edited 18 January, 20206 yr by lol-lol

The Eco / Normal / Sport modes in the e-208, e-Corsa and the DS car allow you to choose 88ps, 110 or 136ps which is what i like.

Plus the regenerative braking is a bit like driving a 1.4 TSI with DQ200 and just bringing the shifter back from D to S, good for nipping along.

 

The black shiny plastic is terrible inside IMO as this vid shows with marks.

I can not imagine the wheel arch plastic staying unsctratched for long just with normal use and washing. It will need even more care than the paint work.

If it had been finished like a Fabia Monte Carlo's body kit it might have faired better.

 

Strange that a Peugeot Employee at the reveal told me which i had already read the 0-62 in 2.8 seconds is achieved in Sport, but the 0-62 mph in Normal mode.

Then when i mentioned Sport and TC off they said that was not advised and they did not try that !!!

Michelin Pilot Sport 205/45 R 17's on the more expensive models,  cheaper cars have 16" alloys and 195 tyres.

 

*I wonder about this Testing for the WLTP in 'Normal' @ 110ps.*

Because before they gave the 0-62 Time as 7.5 seconds (which it can do lower than), and also i was told and read in a magazine that.

'The insurance is kept low as the cars WLTP is with a 110 PS car & not @ 136ps.

Nice as you just move the button and there is 88, 110 or 136 ps.   Feels a bit quicker than a 136 PS petrol.

Another thing is the 260 Nm Max.   Because before the same article on the 2.8 0-62, 110 ps insurance said, 260 Nm & max 300Nm.

 

Then yet another thing.  The rear track is a bit wider on the EV,

The Sportier (more expensive) ICE &  the EV's get Black Wheel Arches. 

 

Journalists need to dig deeper, not just read Media Packs.

 

With the e-208 there is the GT-Line as on the bottom vid, but more expensive is the e-208 GT.

Also the e-208 Active or Allure versions.  & the choice of 7 Kw or 11 Kw on board chargers.

 

There is the Petrol 130ps 8 Speed Automatic available in the GT-Line, but not as a GT.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 18 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

 

 

The seats are comfy.

New you might think they look dirty and well used, i can just imagine you bad they could look when well used.

 

Edited 25 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot

Really really like this package. K.I.S.S

 

 

Less range than VW e-UP (and siblings), less space than a Honda Jizz, more expensive than both. I cannot see this selling well, it's just too expensive.

https://youtu.be/46rYRE7EwEM

 

Another view.

The Dealership can sell as many new EV's as they can get into the country or to them  and when they can not they will not be bringing them in to sit around.

Honda and others know how many have pre-ordered.  They know how many they can supply in right hand drive for the UK and if they can meet the demand of individuals or lease / fleet buyers / Motability etc.

 

The Chancellor or the Secretary of State for Transport in the UK need to get on with announcing what ever changes are coming into the grant scheme in 2020.

 

Today the reports are out on Deaths in Scottish Cities which were attributable to air pollution linked to the pollutant PM2.5.

1 in 29 or greater.

 

Maybe the Scottish Government will make their Grant Scheme better known and the Interest Free loans etc.

 

A car salesman just last week told me point blank that i was mis-informed and there is no Free Public Charging available and you always have to pay for electricity.

I showed him my Charge Place Scotland Card, Apps on my phone and offered to show where there were 3 Rapid Chargers with Free Charging within 2 miles of us and he still did not believe me.

He had been on a training course in England.   

I will see him again shortly and see if he has maybe done a bit more knowledge gathering before dealing with potential customers.

https://chargeplacescotland.org

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 27 January, 20206 yr by Roottootemblowinootsoot