It's interesting to see the ratio of those who do have the problem against those who don't. When you get a problem like this, those suffering become very vocal, and it begins to seem as if everybody is suffering. It's nice, therefore, to put things into perspective.

There's a couple of other things that I'd like to say...

1) I'm still not convinced that everybody who does say they have the stutter is actually experiencing exactly the same thing. By saying that, I'm not trying to disrespect anybody. Some of those experiencing it are clearly experienced drivers of other Vrs's and other cars and know a stutter when it hits them. However, after reading some people's descriptions, I still feel that there are some less experienced vrs drivers who are confusing this with the normal turbo lag.

I'm not being pretentious by referring to less experienced VRS drivers - I'm one myself after only having it for a week and only owning one car before that. I could count the number of cars I've ever driven on one hand!

2) Also, it's interesting that a number of people who are now discovering the stutter are now only doing so after going hunting for it by using other posters' descriptions of it. They haven't experienced it themselves through normal driving of the vehicle but have to recreate an artificial situation in order to recreate it. The only thing I'd say really is this ... if you have to go hunting for the thing and then you're not even sure what it is you're experiencing, is it really worth worrying about??? I know there's a tendency to panic about anything on a new car (I'm definitely there myself at the moment!), but I really wouldn't worry about something on your vehicle just because somebody else is being annoyed by it.

I'm not trying to belittle anyone here. I think a fair amount of this is down to variety in driving styles. I've desperately tried following the descriptions of how to find the fault and I've found myself having to use quite unnatural gears for certain speeds in order to follow some of the descriptions - there's no way I would recreate these conditions under 'normal' driving for myself whilst running the car in! However, some of you obviously drive the car in such a way that this stutter is proving quite prevalaent and, in which case, you're definitely right to try and get it sorted. Despite this, those of us who've put near on 1000miles on the new cars wihtout noticing anything under normal driving should perhaps not worry too much about desperately trying to recreate the fault!!!

As I've already said, please don't take my comments out of context or as a means of trying to bleittle people!

It does now seem that skoda are doing something about this though so I hope that all the owners who are currently suffering get something sorted soon!

I have owned the 05 and the 06 back to back so that puts your theory to bed but thanks for participating.

I have owned the 05 and the 06 back to back so that puts your theory to bed but thanks for participating.

eh?:confused:

To be honest when I bought the 06 model and it had an irritating stuttering on low throttle openings I thought anybody who buys an 06 without trying an older model would think it was just a characteristic of the motor, but to my surprise a lot of people have noticed it, so it is clearly a problem of the set up of the engine.

Skoda have been forced to reduce the emissions for this year and they have clearly messed up somewhere, no doubt the 07 model will be fine again as soon as the dealers increase the feed back to Skoda, we have just been unlucky to get the transition year! Mine is not so bad and I can live with it but some owners are getting it quite bad so it isn

To be honest when I bought the 06 model and it had an irritating stuttering on low throttle openings I thought anybody who buys an 06 without trying an older model would think it was just a characteristic of the motor' date=' but to my surprise a lot of people have noticed it, so it is clearly a problem of the set up of the engine.

Skoda have been forced to reduce the emissions for this year and they have clearly messed up somewhere, no doubt the 07 model will be fine again as soon as the dealers increase the feed back to Skoda, we have just been unlucky to get the transition year! Mine is not so bad and I can live with it but some owners are getting it quite bad so it isn’t fair to accuse people of being less experienced, I agree some owners may have noticed that this isn’t normal after reading treads on here but it still exists.[/quote']

I'm not accusing people who are 'experienced' of being 'non-experienced'. We all know how much experience we have with a) the vrs and it's own nuances and driving a wide range of vehicles. I think we're all quite capable of holding our hands up and saying which group we fall into there!

My post wasn't really concerned with people such as yourselfwho are experienced enough to know exactly what they're experiencing. It was aimed towards those who, after having read their posts, it seems as though they are unsure as to what they are experiencing and how much it is actually affecting their driving.

People who are inexperienced in driving both this car and a wide range of cars - such as myself - come on to this forum and read what is said by the more experienced owners / posters and take it as almost gospel (!), and I just think it's important that we don't get swept along into making ourselves believe that our problems are worse than they are. If you know you have a problem and it is affecting your driving then I'm on your side, and I'm not saying that you're lying / confused / wrong etc.

However, for those that are unsure, perhaps take the softly approach. Mention it to the dealer, if they've heard of the problem or the fix (when it finally does come!) ask them to have aquick check of the vehicle when it's next in for something else. Above all, don't let it worry you that something is 'wrong' with your car just because other people are really suffering.

I hope you see what I'm trying to get at!

Fair enough, The stuttering problem is irritating at best and is not dangerous but it is a shame when the previous incarnations of the vRS where nice and smooth, I am sure it would be a simple tweak to cure it as soon as we can get the dealers to make a bit more effort.

Hi there

Mine is the 06 VRS and it`s doing the stutter had the MAF changed but no difference but when I took it into BICKERTON SKODA SHEFFIELD one of the main blokes their who spoke to me said,

That the main area manager had been in to explain SKODA and SKODA UK know of this problem and the bloke at BICKERTON told me it was to do with the engine management that`s causing it due to changing it for the emmisions regulations but they don`t know how the stutter has happened and they are collecting loads of data from the cars and they`re sending it to SKODA UK who then pass it onto the SKODA FACTORY who are going to find a cure but they know and all the dealers should know of this problem from thier area managers but contact SKODA UK if dealer plays up.

I don`t know about anyone else but when I went to BICKERTON it was my FIFTH TIME into a dealer as my dealer who sold the car HAYSELDON SKODA DONCSTER said SKODA didn`t know anything and they seem to put it across as an isolated incident. :(

cheers

critch

We swapped our 54 plate vRS for a 06 plate vRS in March 06. The 54 plate (which we had from new) was perfect ,not stuttering whatsover. The 06 plate definitely does stutter on small throttle openings at between 1500 to 2000 rpm. We took took it back to the dealer who, although they could feel the stutter, could find no fault. I don't consider it a huge problem, and I don't know what the dealer can do if no fault code comes up.

Hi everbody

This may sound weird just got off the phone to my local Previous AUDI dealer before I switched to SKODA,

He said that they have had a similar problem on their PD130 A3`s and some older A4`s

The cures were,

a new MAF on some PD130`S fixed the problem but not all

Some require a MAF and EGR VALVE but these were EXTREME CASES

Heres the weird one on certain PD130`S the ECU seem to have lost it`s MEMORY for the FUEL DELIVERY side on the ECU causing a stutter but this was cured by using FLASH DISCS to upload new ECU settings for fuel delivery after this was done the problem dissapeared completely and never returned.

These are the common faults that my local AUDI dealer have had but he did say that the engine is the same so it maybe the software side thats causing the trouble but he was sure SKODA should solve the problem because all the common fault has he put it are passed around the group.

hope this information helps abit I know it from AUDI but they use the same engines so hopefully the same cures.

cheers

critch

(hoping to get to the cat and fiddle run 29th april 06)

Fair enough, The stuttering problem is irritating at best and is not dangerous but it is a shame when the previous incarnations of the vRS where nice and smooth, I am sure it would be a simple tweak to cure it as soon as we can get the dealers to make a bit more effort.

yeh, and I definitely share the frustrations of people like yourself who have experienced a stutter free previous incarnation of the vrs! Still, at least it looks like Skoda Uk are onto it now!!!

My gut feeling based on my experience with the vRS are that it is electronic and half wonder if the electronic throttle has enough 'steps' at the top of the travel and the ecu quantises to the nearest step and that accounts for the jolt? I work in audio but a lot of this stuff is all pretty similar.

I'll log it with my garage so that they get the feedback and if there are problems later it's on record as being a long standing issue from new.

I still love the vRS though

Hi,

I picked up my 06 vrs in mid march and to be honest i've not noticed any performance issues with it. Admittedy this is my first turbo diesel after driving a pug 306 xsi for the last 7 years so dont really have a comparison.

Would the stuttering be described as a kind of flat spot in the rev range or is it more like a fueling problem/loss of power/ kangarooing similar to that you get with lambda sensor on the blink? Being a previous pug owner i've had that many a time!

Hi,

Having owned an 05 and 06 Furby, this problem has to have one of two causes. Firstly they have built the 06 engine with a set of defective parts eg. MAF or EGR valve, but I feel this is less likely. My favorite is that they have introduced this problem as a result of reprogramming the ECU for the new emission level requirements. I have never played with VAG-COM, but would it be possible to compare the settings between the two engines? How about trying to load the default mapping fron an 05 engine to an 06? This must be possible as this is how some of the engine tuners work for the Revert to Normal for Dealer Servicing? I am not sure the dealers will ever see a fault for this problem as if it is the ECU, it thinks everything is OK. I am willing to assist if someone has the ability to apply the previous suggestion? I would love to try the 05 engine settings if it was possible as I loved my old 05 that was shunted beyond repair by an overseas lorry on the motorway.

Regards,

Bagheera.

I agree with Baghera; sounds like a mapping problem. Has anybody who had a stutter had a remap? Or even a Revo 5-hour trial (if they still do them)? The different map may sort the problem, or at least give different symptoms, which would be worth reporting back to this thread.

The dealer's diagnostic kit is capable of applying a new map to the ECU, so if a fix is made available, it could be applied whenever the car was serviced.

If a remap would cure it I would be tempted to spend £150 at chipboost near Scarborough as somebody has mentioned in a previous thread, they sound to good to be true and only 50 miles away.

Whilst I would be inclined to agree it is a mangement issue, you should be wary of the fact that a visit to a mapper could invalidate your new car warranty. It would be difficult to prove your case to Skoda if you chose this route as they would know straight away that'd you'd interfered with it.

Looks like you'll have to keep plugging away at them.

Has anyone thought of doing some VAG-COM logging to see if you can identify anything?

Whilst I would be inclined to agree it is a mangement issue' date=' you should be wary of the fact that a visit to a mapper could invalidate your new car warranty. It would be difficult to prove your case to Skoda if you chose this route as they would know straight away that'd you'd interfered with it.

Looks like you'll have to keep plugging away at them.

Has anyone thought of doing some VAG-COM logging to see if you can identify anything?[/quote']

Your right, I just had a rush of blood to the head when I saw the price.

Hi

I got my 06 VRS in mid march and i noticed a small stutter, however it was not that bad - however last week my mate Graham from Celtic Tuning did a remap and jobs a good un - no stuttering and it shifts - all i can say if you have a stutter get a remap - seemed to do the trick for me

dodgygraduate

Not only does mine have the stutter but at 700 miles it developed a lumpy tickover bad enough to rock you in your seat. Only happens when warm. Dealers had it twice (1 day with Skoda rep). They are having it back over easter hols for third and final time before I reject it. They havn't got a clue, already changed.

Vacuum block

EGR Valve

Air Meter

ECU

Fuel temp sender

And various other checks made.

Wishing I'd kept my red 54reg Furby now!!!

06 Silver, Cruise, 4 mudfaps, STTTTUUUTTER!!!!!!

Not only does mine have the stutter but at 700 miles it developed a lumpy tickover bad enough to rock you in your seat. Only happens when warm. Dealers had it twice (1 day with Skoda rep). They are having it back over easter hols for third and final time before I reject it. They havn't got a clue' date=' already changed.

Vacuum block

EGR Valve

Air Meter

ECU

Fuel temp sender

And various other checks made.

Wishing I'd kept my red 54reg Furby now!!!

06 Silver, Cruise, 4 mudfaps, STTTTUUUTTER!!!!!![/quote']

I haven't noticed the stutter for abit now but the just recently i have also experienced a lumpy tick over just as you've described, I've covered 1380 miles now and it's only appeared in the last 500 miles or so..

So far i've not reported any of this to the dealer as i thought these things might resolve themselves as the car beds in (my first brand new car), but 'm starting to think I should have a word with them in the not too distant future... :(

Mine still stutters occasionally (happened this morning) and that is with 3000+ miles on it.

Cheers,

JB

Count me in!

Picked the car up on 28th March' date=' Iv'e only done 300miles now, but on the first trip back from the dealer there was the Stutter it was between 1600-1900 rpm and always occurs when applying a very light throttle after being on the overrun:confused:

As I said in the other Tread, I tried a new Maf Sensor and it was fine , the only problem was the EMS light came on after approx 100 miles, but even so the car was still running perfectly ok no stuttering, I refitted the original maf and its only happened once since!

I have a couple of contacts at skoda uk, so monday i'll give them a call to see what they have heard about this problem:rolleyes:

Its a shame really to have this problem as its such a great car:thumbup: lets hope for a quick fix:D

Cheers

Jas[/quote']

Have same problem. hesitation when using light throttle 1600-1800 revs. Usually after overun.

Regards Jay Dee

Just booked mine in at Alex Lawrie (Liverpool) to be 'looked at'....due in on the 28th....they had not heard or experienced the issue!!!!!!

Same as everyone else, 1600-1900 rpm. Only really noticed it in the past 600 miles (upto about 2000 now). Although not a major thing it is a slight irritation.

I would not be surprised is it was the ecu mapping. My previous car, a vauxhall astra, had an ecu software issue. On changing gear you would get pinking. Down to the ecu backing the mixture off too early. Took about a year to get the new software.

Yep mines January 06 and suffers from it, I thought it might have been the remap, but, I might take a race down to the dealers and see what they reckon to it?