The Coronavirus (COVID-19) Topic.

[moley]

20 hours ago, lol-lol said:

China/Wuhan celebrates no new  C19 cases.....

 

 

According to Worldometer China reported 63 new cases yesterday. 

[gadgetman]

5 hours ago, xman said:

Yet another setback and a real possibility of reinfection?

 

Coronavirus immunity test faces a setback as some recovered patients only present low levels of antibodies in their system

A team from Fudan University in China analysed blood from 175 patients and found that nearly a third had surprisingly few antibodies

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2020/04/08/coronavirus-immunity-test-faces-setback-recovered-patients-present/

 

In 10 patients, antibodies could not be detected at all, which could also place them at greater risk of a secondary infection, the researchers warned. 

 

 

Which is why South Korea saw 53 reinfections the other day. 

 

I'm sure I read somewhere that mortality the 2nd time is extremely high 

[NJRJ]

 

9 hours ago, xman said:

Yet another setback and a real possibility of reinfection?

 

Coronavirus immunity test faces a setback as some recovered patients only present low levels of antibodies in their system

A team from Fudan University in China analysed blood from 175 patients and found that nearly a third had surprisingly few antibodies

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2020/04/08/coronavirus-immunity-test-faces-setback-recovered-patients-present/

 

In 10 patients, antibodies could not be detected at all, which could also place them at greater risk of a secondary infection, the researchers warned. 

 

 

3 hours ago, gadgetman said:

Which is why South Korea saw 53 reinfections the other day. 

 

If they can't detect antibodies it's likely they never had Covid19 (just manflu/flu) and so re-infection isn't re-infection, it's just getting Covid19 for the first time - and if you're a malnourished (or fat/unfit) smoker then death rates will be the usual for that profile of patient.

[xman]

11 minutes ago, NJRJ said:

 

If they can't detect antibodies it's likely they never had Covid19 (just manflu/flu) and so re-infection isn't re-infection, it's just getting Covid19 for the first time - and if you're a malnourished (or fat/unfit) smoker then death rates will be the usual for that profile of patient.

 

I think they probably checked that they were all tested as positive whilst they were ill plus I believe many were also MRI'd to double check.

 

It's foolish to dismiss this as bah, nothing but man flu, I expect they have checked for other antibodies and markers for other flus and illnesses too to answer the apparent paradox.

 

They are experts doing this, surrounded by dead and dying people, they will be trying their best to come up with answers.

Edited 9 April, 2020 by xman

[xman]

Nice to see MP's snouts are being well fed

 

MPs’ office expenses are hiked by £10,000 to cover ‘costs of working from home’ during coronavirus crisis

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8203723/Coronavirus-MPs-office-expenses-hiked-10-000.html

 

Meanwhile, the monthly credit limit for MPs has been increased to £10,000, a 90 day limit on expenses claims has been suspended and rules on the evidence needed for costs to be reimbursed have been relaxed.

 

 

Edited 9 April, 2020 by xman

[Titanium_Man]

30 minutes ago, xman said:

Nice to see MP's snouts are being well fed

 

MPs’ office expenses are hiked by £10,000 to cover ‘costs of working from home’ during coronavirus crisis

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8203723/Coronavirus-MPs-office-expenses-hiked-10-000.html

 

Meanwhile, the monthly credit limit for MPs has been increased to £10,000, a 90 day limit on expenses claims has been suspended and rules on the evidence needed for costs to be reimbursed have been relaxed.

 

 

 

FFS.... my wife is only allowed to claim £6 per month for costs incurred as a result of working from home😡

[P6bJOHN]

Is it me, but has no one asked the question. If the testing kit received from China have been returned as faulty, how are they testing in China? Does this make all their figures totally unreliable?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-01/faulty-virus-tests-cloud-china-s-european-outreach-over-covid-19

[Ootohere]

They are not stupid.   Use the good stuff and flog to the not so bright the stuff that is not to be trusted. 

There are always mugs out there.

[Aspman]

27 minutes ago, P6bJOHN said:

Is it me, but has no one asked the question. If the testing kit received from China have been returned as faulty, how are they testing in China? Does this make all their figures totally unreliable?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-01/faulty-virus-tests-cloud-china-s-european-outreach-over-covid-19

 

As per the Dail Mash mugs - Churn it out and **** off early

[@Lee]

Not watched it yet but some experts
Hosts Paul Mason and Afua Hirsch. Dr Sarah Wollaston, Former Chair of Health Select Committee 2014-2019 Dr Bharat Pankhania, Senior Clinical Lecturer, Exeter Medical School Dr Anthony Costello, Director of the Institute for Global Health, University College London. Professor Deenan Pillay, Professor of Virology, University College London Dr Allyson Pollock, Director of the Institute of Health and Society, Newcastle University.

 

[VWD]

1 hour ago, shyVRS245 said:

You forgot Travellers who don't pay tax, mess up any park they like and scare the Police with their illegal Pit Bulls.

Not round here . Fed up with constant invasions our council bit the bullet and spent a bit more to get an High Court  injunction.

https://www.nuneatonandbedworth.gov.uk/news/article/542/council_secures_high_court_injunction

 

Edited 9 April, 2020 by VWD

[lol-lol]

10% unemployment in the US as of today.

UK relatively slow to produce its figures but judging by applications to Universal Credits here and the similar nature of much of our economies eventually UK figures to be same ie 3m plus unemployed sadly despite furlough scheme.

[@Lee]

 

[@Lee]

That's nice of them. Germany is sending 60 mobile respirators to the UK The move comes after the UK's ministry of defence asked its NATO partners, including the German Bundeswehr, for help.
 

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After an appeal from the UK to NATO allies, German newspaper Der Spiegel reports that its defence minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer has agreed to send 60 ventilators at no cost to its European partner.

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/germany-to-send-60-ventilators-to-the-uk-to-help-nhs-tackle-coronavirus-1-6601762

https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/corona-krise-bundeswehr-liefert-beatmungsgeraete-nach-grossbritannien-a-9d27f9c9-0ff7-4ef6-b851-f7caad959f7b?sara_ecid=soci_upd_wbMbjhOSvViISjc8RPU89NcCvtlFcJ

[lol-lol]

41 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

That's nice of them. Germany is sending 60 mobile respirators to the UK The move comes after the UK's ministry of defence asked its NATO partners, including the German Bundeswehr, for help.
 

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/germany-to-send-60-ventilators-to-the-uk-to-help-nhs-tackle-coronavirus-1-6601762

https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/corona-krise-bundeswehr-liefert-beatmungsgeraete-nach-grossbritannien-a-9d27f9c9-0ff7-4ef6-b851-f7caad959f7b?sara_ecid=soci_upd_wbMbjhOSvViISjc8RPU89NcCvtlFcJ

 

And 200 from the US.

Any from Russia or elsewhere I wonder.

EU offered weeks ago, UK declined, then lied about getting the offer, tragic.

[Ootohere]

Being in the EU / UN / NATO / Commonwealth should be worth something, all for one and one for all.

The UK contributes plenty to all the above.

[xman]

48 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

EU offered weeks ago, UK declined, then lied about getting the offer, tragic.

 

False claim: Boris Johnson refused offer of 50,000 ventilators from the European Union 

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-johnson-ventilators-europe/falseclaim-boris-johnson-refused-offer-of-50000-ventilators-from-the-european-union-idUSKCN21Q350

 

BBC's Andrew Neil defends Boris Johnson as he points out key flaw in EU ventilator scheme

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1266954/BBC-news-Andrew-Neil-EU-ventilator-scheme-Boris-Johnson-NHS-equipment

 

Alledgedly the EU are still having meetings discussing whether they are going to make/procure ventilators, never mind whos going to get them when they finally get round to it.

Edited 9 April, 2020 by xman

[xman]

Consultant neighbour told me yesterday most of the anesthetic equipment in our local hospital had already been repurposed as ventilators. Some obviously retained for emergency operations. Our local NHS are proactive it seems.

[@Lee]

Thread here by BBC business journalist Simon Browning on PPE. Or rather lack of.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1248264944925237248.html

[Auric Goldfinger]

Can anyone tell me why my Post was removed without explanation please

 

 

Did anyone complain ?

[gadgetman]

6 minutes ago, Auric Goldfinger said:

Can anyone tell me why my Post was removed without explanation please

 

 

Did anyone complain ?

See earlier post 

[cheezemonkhai]

5 hours ago, xman said:

Nice to see MP's snouts are being well fed

 

MPs’ office expenses are hiked by £10,000 to cover ‘costs of working from home’ during coronavirus crisis

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8203723/Coronavirus-MPs-office-expenses-hiked-10-000.html

 

Meanwhile, the monthly credit limit for MPs has been increased to £10,000, a 90 day limit on expenses claims has been suspended and rules on the evidence needed for costs to be reimbursed have been relaxed.

 

 

If you read, it’s to provide their staff with laptops/computers and tools/connectivity they need to work from home.

 

the other bit isn’t an increase, it’s an increase in how much the government can owe you before you must claim as well as the removal of a 90 day limit for claims.

 

Nothing different to what companies are doing so their staff can wfh.

[Auric Goldfinger]

12 minutes ago, Auric Goldfinger said:

Can anyone tell me why my Post was removed without explanation please

 

 

Did anyone complain ?

 

6 minutes ago, gadgetman said:

See earlier post 

 

Errrr.  I don't quite  understand ?

[gadgetman]

14 minutes ago, cheezemonkhai said:

If you read, it’s to provide their staff with laptops/computers and tools/connectivity they need to work from home.

 

the other bit isn’t an increase, it’s an increase in how much the government can owe you before you must claim as well as the removal of a 90 day limit for claims.

 

Nothing different to what companies are doing so their staff can wfh.

Good to see the Mail reporting the truth, as usual. 

 

Fake news, but they need to keep their readership foaming at the mouth about something 

[Auric Goldfinger]

13 minutes ago, gadgetman said:

Good to see the Mail reporting the truth, as usual. 

 

Fake news, but they need to keep their readership foaming at the mouth about something 

 

Any chance you could explain your last post about my post please.