2021 F1 Discussion

[Titanium_Man]

Agreed. Could have done without the controversial end given what went on in the last race, but it is what it is.
 

Max will be around for a long time and expect him to keep winning titles. 

[Mickvrs220]

Not over yet tho mercedes are fighting their corner with the rule book ,so more contoversy to come mebbe.

[Evil]

1 hour ago, Mickvrs220 said:

Bit controversial at end ,was rooting for lewis but thats racing and nice to see a new champion ,it needed a shake up .

Definitely... but at least be consistent and make it fair.

 

I still think Mercedes should have taken Norris instead of Russell too.

[PetrolDave]

Letting only 5 of the lapped cars through and not all of them surely isn't following the rule?

 

Either stick with the original decision to let none of the lapped cars through or let ALL of the lapped cars through.

 

IMHO Mercedes have a valid reason to make an appeal.

 

Yes having the race not finishing under safety car is preferred but only if the rules have been followed.

Edited 12 December, 2021 by PetrolDave

[Mickvrs220]

Mercedes have now got a barrister on the job so who knows what the outcome will be.

[maximusvrs]

Shame the end is controversial, although not surprising given the season we’ve watched. The last championship I remember being that close on the final lap was Hamilton passing Glock in 2008 for the championship in Brazil! 

[Baxlin]

Ironic that a Mercedes powered car caused the Safety car episode.

 

Wonder who will supply Williams’ engines next year?  👹

[Mickvrs220]

Max is the champion ,mercedes protest is thrown out 

[Baxlin]

7 minutes ago, Mickvrs220 said:

Max is the champion ,mercedes protest is thrown out 

Inevitable, I suppose.

[Evil]

1 hour ago, Mickvrs220 said:

Max is the champion ,mercedes protest is thrown out 

They're going to appeal and have 96 hours.... 

The stewards need their heads wobbling before next season. 

[nige8021]

Breaking F1 news, A rule change for 2022 all cars will now be required to be a 2 seater, so the company lawyer can advise or take control of the car for any on course decisions

[camelspyyder]

Even if Mercedes protest against the race direction succeeds, what will happen?

FIA declare the race result void, leaving Max and Lewis on 369.5 points each, and Max as Champion on race wins 9 to 8!

Edited 13 December, 2021 by camelspyyder

[Evil]

2 hours ago, camelspyyder said:

Even if Mercedes protest against the race direction succeeds, what will happen?

FIA declare the race result void, leaving Max and Lewis on 369.5 points each, and Max as Champion on race wins 9 to 8!

I'm sure there's other possible outcomes... 

Who knows, we can only wait and see 🤷‍♂️

[Lady Elanore]

If I could place a bit on it with SKY Bet, I'd wager that things will not change. It's done and dusted. At least the Ham-ster gets a knighted on Wednesday   

Edited 13 December, 2021 by Lady Elanore

[nige8021]

Mercedes are not going to appeal the stewards decisions https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59681314 

[Lady Elanore]

It was never going to change things. I think they saw the light once the dust had settled 

 

To be fair to Hamilton, I've always considered him a bit of a pillock, but he has shown great grace and sportsmanship in his handling of the defeat, especially under the circumstances of what happened 

 

 

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Edited 16 December, 2021 by Lady Elanore

[skomaz]

42 minutes ago, Lady Elanore said:

 

To be fair to Hamilton, I've always considered him a bit of a pillock, but he has shown great grace and sportsmanship in his handling of the defeat, especially under the circumstances of what happened 

 

 

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Indeed he has - can you imagine the same being said of Verstappen?  The teddies would have been well and truly out of the pram!

[Lady Elanore]

Hamilton has gone up a bit in my estimation because of this. Not his driving which has always been sublime, but his maturity and decency, which I had questioned previously. Well done Sir Lewis! 

[camelspyyder]

Finally he's won a title.

 

I really cant believe its taken 7 years, but that's what he got for Daddy choosing RedBull over other suitors in 2014.  In comparison Hamilton's Dad got him into a front running McLaren.

Had the Dutch signed for Mercedes back in 2014 (without the promise of an immediate race drive) I expect Max would have had the seat Bottas got, and won 3 or more titles by now.

 

In some ways similar to Alesi who chose the wrong team, and gained a career total of 1 race win, whilst the team he turned down dominated for the majority of the  next 7 years.

 

 

 

Edited 16 December, 2021 by camelspyyder

[camelspyyder]

Next year will be telling. 

 

Have RB and Mercedes put so much into this fight that other teams will leapfrog their way to the front?

 

Cant wait to see.

[Lady Elanore]

I don't doubt Max's talent, but I think his personality was too fragile until this year. I don't think mentally he could have coped with Hamilton as a teammate. For me, Hamilton had the 'big team ride' throughout his career, quite simply because he was the best. Now he is at the end of his reign and his peak powers will slowly decline, but that doesn't mean he won't win an 8th title. When I look at the whole season and the ability to focus and manage the requirements of mounting a championship bid, I see only two contenders. That is unless one of the other teams produces a mega car that can compensate for any driver shortcoming. 

[Lady Elanore]

A lot of chat around whether Hamilton might now quit. I don't think it's likely, but you never know I guess 🤷🏻‍♀️

 

 

 

[camelspyyder]

Well hes ikely going to get a sanction from the FIA for snubbing the prize giving tonight in defiance of another rubbish F1 rule.

Wolf isn't going either. Neither will the F1 or FE winning Mercedes cars be on display.

[Lady Elanore]

I think even Max will understand why Toto and Sir Lewis won't be attending. I'm hoping there will be a positive discussion come out of the final farce of a race and also we get to see why the decisions were made, as everything is recorded - yer right!    that's going to happen 

[nige8021]

New FIA boss not ruling out punishing Hamster  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59705074