No you have to do @pcbbc version 2 copy over of those modules where he says unzip and copy, overwite. I wasn't certain whether Tazdaz just did that and didn't move to V12. It would have been a quick download anyway if he'd done a full V12 download. Not sure whether @PCbbc's mod is specific to V12 or can be used on previous releases.

 

1430 is the V12 release. You see that then installed under info or whatever Skoda call it. The card / download to use as the starting point.

 

That's this bit:

 

b. If you don't have VCDS / Obdeleven Pro coding device and want TMC to work in the UK with Inrix service but aren't so bothered about all Europe TMC providers use the module: DiscoverMedia2_EU_AS_1430_V12_TMC_Update_V2.7z This option assumes the current TMC fee based setting is set to 15. Default.

In both instances, you need the V12 map:

Unmodifed V12 map download: DiscoverMedia2_EU_AS_1430_V12.7z
 

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Open up the zip file in the file manager, drag and drop on the card copying over what was there. That's right click in file manager on the zip file, drag and drop onto the SD card.

 

In all instances take a back up copy of the card before you do it. 

Edited 10 August, 20232 yr by Tell

18 hours ago, Hillbilly23 said:

My post was about MMI3G B for which I doubt there is a solution. I don't have or know anyone with VCDS so cannot have a look.

 

@Hillbilly23was wondering why you seem so sure there's no solution for the model you quote.  Pretty sure that's the model I've got in my A4 too, that's why.  Otherwise I was going to take these notes about the setting changes to my independent garage and see what happens...worst case we change the settings back to what they are now if it doesn't achieve the desired result!

On 24/07/2023 at 22:08, Tell said:

 

You can do it yourself as I covered on the SeatCupra thread:

 

https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/updating-the-inbuilt-mib2-satnav-mib2-tricks-and-lost-mib1-card-solution.388586/page-136#post-5037297

 

Yours is a Mib2 standard but with mapcare.

 

You need to apply the Seat workaround as well as outlined since you are on V4 of the maps and V12 is an upgrade. Take a back up copy of the map before you start. If using a Mac use Cleanmydrive. Use the b. option produced by Pcbbc in that link no coding is required.

 

Basically back up card.

 

Download V12 maps.

 

Copy V12 maps to the card.

 

Apply the Seat workaround... this

 

The workaround for that is the standard one:
 

The workaround for that is the standard one:

Steps:

1. Download the latest standard MIB2 maps
2. on the infotainment go to settings, safely remove, sd1 card
3. remove sd1 card from glove box slot
4. long press on the on / off to reboot it a couple of times
5. insert sd card in to computer
6. copy and paste all contents to a directory on your computer
7. Format the SD card keep it as fat32 and leave format settings as default in file explorer (don't forget to push the card lock mechanism to off) (ditto in a MAC or delete all from the SD card)
8. Copy the new downloaded map version to the SD card (after unzipping it)
9. Replace /maps/EEC/EEC_WLD/OVERALL.NDS on the SD CARD with the one from the original SD card
10. eject the sd card (on a MAC run CleanMyDrive on the SD card - then eject)
11. Inserted the card into the card 1 slot in glove box whilst infotainment is off
12. power on and go to navigation

Then apply b. of that link to the card.

 

Quite a few people have got it working on Seats now. The only wrinkle for Seat's is the "workaround" 1-12 above that isn't required on VWs and Skodas. Seat never got life long mapcare so that avoids it.

 

BTW other success ones are on this thread:

 

https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/tmc-not-working.472987/

 

Mib2 High you do as published on Briskoda board no change, Mib2 standard (card based system, 6P descriptor as above in the picture means it's a Seat Mib2 standard, you use the published stuff here plus the workaround)... clear as mud. That's how I detected it's a Seat Mib2 standard and not Mib1 or a Mib2 High (Plus in Seat's terming of the unit).

 

 

 

 

Thanks again for this. Managed to get round to sorting it and popped the SD card back in earlier.

 

The maps have updated to include new roads etc but so far no traffic reports, although at one point it did flicker as though it was trying to refresh (it never did that after Trafficmaster stopped working).

 

Hopefully when I go for a drive later it will kick into life!

14 hours ago, Ben-2000 said:

Thanks again for this. Managed to get round to sorting it and popped the SD card back in earlier.

 

The maps have updated to include new roads etc but so far no traffic reports, although at one point it did flicker as though it was trying to refresh (it never did that after Trafficmaster stopped working).

 

Hopefully when I go for a drive later it will kick into life!

If you pick a route into the centre of London. Toggle show all on the TMC rather than on route that will show all not on the route. You can zoom in and out and move about That's in the TMC menu. TMC icon shouldn't have a cross through it.

 

Did actually show up the road works we were going through in rural Wales yesterday. Tap on the road works sign and it showed you the information text... so that's the queue. Water board digging up the road ahead. Inrix is used by the Highway Agency bodies so this had been entered into their system and broadcast out. You'd never see those on the old provider, not round here except old data stuck in their system about a road to Fishguard port being closes and wanting a big re route around country lane for about six months when there was no road closure. The data accuracy of the old provider didnt fill you with confidence.

Hi again.

You may or not remember that I have a Fiat 124  based on the Mazda MX5 platform.

Like you guys, my TMC stopped working in the UK via FM as Trafficmaster ceased to operate.

 

But I can confirm that it still works perfectly well in mainland Europe, having just returned from a trip to France, Belgium, Luxembourg and Germany. This is without any updates or modifications to my satnav.

 

 

 

On 10/08/2023 at 12:06, Tell said:

No you have to do @pcbbc version 2 copy over of those modules where he says unzip and copy, overwite. I wasn't certain whether Tazdaz just did that and didn't move to V12. It would have been a quick download anyway if he'd done a full V12 download. Not sure whether @PCbbc's mod is specific to V12 or can be used on previous releases.

 

1430 is the V12 release. You see that then installed under info or whatever Skoda call it. The card / download to use as the starting point.

 

That's this bit:

 

b. If you don't have VCDS / Obdeleven Pro coding device and want TMC to work in the UK with Inrix service but aren't so bothered about all Europe TMC providers use the module: DiscoverMedia2_EU_AS_1430_V12_TMC_Update_V2.7z This option assumes the current TMC fee based setting is set to 15. Default.

In both instances, you need the V12 map:

Unmodifed V12 map download: DiscoverMedia2_EU_AS_1430_V12.7z
 

----

 

Open up the zip file in the file manager, drag and drop on the card copying over what was there. That's right click in file manager on the zip file, drag and drop onto the SD card.

 

In all instances take a back up copy of the card before you do it. 

 

All done thanks.  I didn’t do step 4 as didn’t have the equipment but I guess the correct code is already there.

So , a big thanks to you, @pcbbc and @bigade1.

1 hour ago, Arthur124 said:

Hi again.

You may or not remember that I have a Fiat 124  based on the Mazda MX5 platform.

Like you guys, my TMC stopped working in the UK via FM as Trafficmaster ceased to operate.

 

But I can confirm that it still works perfectly well in mainland Europe, having just returned from a trip to France, Belgium, Luxembourg and Germany. This is without any updates or modifications to my satnav.

 

 

 

It will do. There are groups of TMC providers within those are the providers themselves. In the UK Inrix and what was Traffic Master, it's the latter that has stopped broadcasting in the UK only, Inrix is still broadcasting. One is in one TMC group the other is in the other group.

 

The solutions on the thread shift it to a different TMC group, one that contains Inrix which is still broadcasting. Obviously, the manufactures have deals with the TMC providers funded by the licence they paid at the time. Inrix is like tuning into Radio Luxembourg of old, plays better pop music than BBC Light radio 😍. Possibly not a good example. 

Hello,  I am an intruder here but this Skoda thread  (and the relevant SEAT threads) are far better than anything I can find on any VW sites.  Some superb work has been done here and on the SEAT threads and I would like to thank everybody who has contributed.  I purchased my pre-registered VW Golf 7.5 Match Edition in February 2020 and so was very disappointed when the TMC updates stopped working only just over three years later. 

 

I have followed these threads pretty much from when the issue first arose and it was great to see a number of practical solutions developed by the Skoda and SEAT communities.  My car has the MIB2 VW Discover Media (MQB) (3Q0035874C) and came with V10 maps which I have updated  three times so that I am now on version 2110 (ECE 2024).  I believe the Discover Media is an MIB2 Standard unit.  Based on the postings here and on the SEAT thread by Tell and others I purchased a SD card with V12 maps (version 1430 ECE 20/21) which appear unaltered and load up fine onto the system (they are certainly an earlier version than the current maps on my other card).  I then applied the patch Update V2.7Z to the files on the SD card  (I only want to use in the UK so used the patch alone rather than the VCDS/Obdevelen), replacing duplicate files, and again the maps work fine on the system.  Unfortunately  TMC remained stubbornly crossed out through a 2.5 hour journey up the M5.  I tried putting the patch on again, turning the unit off and on and doing a factory reset on the navigation system but no joy.  Is there anything anybody can think of that might make the updates work?  The system is one of the last MIB2 Standards made before the Golf 8 was introduced so it is possible some late changes have been made.

 

A bit of general info. I updated my other SD card with the latest maps issued by VW in June 2023 thinking they might have been adjusted to cure the TMC problem but, what a surprise, they hadn't.  Also my brother was interested in buying a secondhand Golf 7.5 at the end of July  and mentioned this issue to the VW salesman.  The response was "nobody uses that nowadays - just connect your phone up with Google maps"!!   

 

Many thanks for any help anyone can give me.      

There are 2 different MIB2 units fitted to the Golf. On your unit press and hold the menu button for a few seconds, now press the software update/version button. Look at the installed SW train version, this will tell you which unit you have.  if it starts with MST2 and ends with T, MST2_EU_VW_XX_XXXXT, then you have a MIB2 Technisat unit and the patch should work, if it ends in D you have a Delphi unit and the patch will not work.

1 hour ago, fjbgas66 said:

There are 2 different MIB2 units fitted to the Golf. On your unit press and hold the menu button for a few seconds, now press the software update/version button. Look at the installed SW train version, this will tell you which unit you have.  if it starts with MST2 and ends with T, MST2_EU_VW_XX_XXXXT, then you have a MIB2 Technisat unit and the patch should work, if it ends in D you have a Delphi unit and the patch will not work.

We'll get @pcbbconto looking at that 🤣. If it's that it needs someone who is technical with the unit. Any Ozzies with it may have found a solution then that informs what needs to be done here.

 

If it's a Technisat then the drag and drop copy needs to be checked to make sure it overwrote what was there. If swapping map cards a reboot is a good idea. That's the long hold on the on/off switch till the boot screen comes up, let go then It will then read the data on the card from fresh... might skip that with a card swap. Worth a try.

Edited 14 August, 20232 yr by Tell

1 hour ago, fjbgas66 said:

There are 2 different MIB2 units fitted to the Golf. On your unit press and hold the menu button for a few seconds, now press the software update/version button. Look at the installed SW train version, this will tell you which unit you have.  if it starts with MST2 and ends with T, MST2_EU_VW_XX_XXXXT, then you have a MIB2 Technisat unit and the patch should work, if it ends in D you have a Delphi unit and the patch will not work.

 

Thanks for this - I'd missed this in the thread.  Yes it has a D for Delphi so it looks like its goodbye to TMC unless somebody technical can find a solution.  Certainly one isn't likely to come from VW 🙄  

31 minutes ago, Greydave said:

 

Thanks for this - I'd missed this in the thread.  Yes it has a D for Delphi so it looks like its goodbye to TMC unless somebody technical can find a solution.  Certainly one isn't likely to come from VW 🙄  

There is Ozzie discussion on here but no break through yet;

 

https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f78/additional-tmc-provider-mib2-discover-pro-units-heretraffic-134851-5.html

46 minutes ago, Tell said:

There is Ozzie discussion on here but no break through yet;

 

https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f78/additional-tmc-provider-mib2-discover-pro-units-heretraffic-134851-5.html

 

Thanks for the reply and for all your work on this which has helped to provide a practical solution for VAG Group owners - just my luck to have the one type of unit where it doesn't work. Judging by the recent posts on the Aussie thread, a breakthrough for Delphi units looks unlikely. 

Hi, does anyone know how Inrix collects its data and how it is distributed. I ask because my MIB2high seems to load traffic quite slowly but Trafficmaster was virtually instantaneous.  Today on a 10 minute drive I started off with 14 reports then with regular increasing updates (every 30 seconds)  I had 124 when I arrived at my destination and it was still adding to the list.

Distribution is like teletext of old why it built up over a period. Guess it has some way of rewriting the geo graphical zone with an update when it has one to give which you wait your turn for 😉. That's the lag you are seeing as the bandwidth to send the data will have limits. Perhaps it's like the old Grandstand teletype you have to wait for the football results to come in. The assumption is you aren't at the locality so some leeway till you get the information and require to act on it. Somebody will have done the modelling on that basis to say, yeah this is adequate in % of cases based on the capacity of the system, rate of traffic reports to provide and ability to act on them.

On 09/06/2023 at 17:22, Tell said:

@pcbbcWell done that is indeed the solution on a mib2 hìgh.

 

 

Reboot of the infotainment unit.... The long hold on the on / off.

 

No cross in TMC... looking good.

 

Route into Essex.

 

 

 

I thought a DIY solution was going to be the answer 😉. Not sure which services it will pick up abroad now mind you.

 

For others it was done with the Obdeleven with the Pro license. Works with a dongle white on an Android or the Next Gen black one Android or iPhone with the Pro licenses. People will be able to do this with VCDS. You have to feed that field in the 5f module, reboot the unit and Bobs your Uncle.

 

 

I bought the Obdeleven with the Pro license in order to fix this issue on my Skoda Superb 2012, but can't find the Multimedia screen (or any other screen with the Fee-Based Traffic Information) in the Adaptations menu.  Can anyone help me find this please?

 

Many thanks,

 

Geoff

 

It's in the 5f unit. The engine needs to be running. Obviously you have to set it up for your car.

 

I got my training aid here:

 

https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/resources/obdeleven-tool-for-vcds-type-of-activity-working-ones-for-the-ateca-part-1-of-2.44/

 

They are the control units. The 5f unit is the infotainment unit. Hitting adaptations and search for fee-based... or TMC should pick up the line. mib2 high (Columbus) you do that way. If its the map card based system you don't need Obdeleven, you mod the map card. That's the decision point earlier on.

 

Always a good idea to do the error scan then go into the modules to change. In the past I've found it doesn't like you to change things if you haven't scanned for errors. How the program works with their mothership back at the ranch.

Edited 17 August, 20232 yr by Tell

17 minutes ago, Tell said:

It's in the 5f unit. The engine needs to be running. Obviously you have to set it up for your car.

 

I got my training aid here:

 

https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/resources/obdeleven-tool-for-vcds-type-of-activity-working-ones-for-the-ateca-part-1-of-2.44/

 

They are the control units. The 5f unit is the infotainment unit. Hitting adaptations and search for fee-based... or TMC should pick up the line. mib2 high (Columbus) you do that way. If its the map card based system you don't need Obdeleven, you mod the map card. That's the decision point earlier on.

 

Always a good idea to do the error scan then go into the modules to change. In the past I've found it doesn't like you to change things if you haven't scanned for errors. How the program works with their mothership back at the ranch.

 

Many thanks.  My problem though is that control unit 5f doesn't appear (and I have set it up for my car, and tried with the engine running).  I found another post here - 5F module is missing | OBDeleven - which explained how to check the Gateway list coding and tick (check) 5f if that module is missing, but I don't even have 5f in the Gateway list coding list in order to tick (check) it and restore it.  Any other ideas? My car doesn't use an SD card for the maps, so I've assumed this alternative method isn't open to me.  

6 minutes ago, ghl3112 said:

 

Many thanks.  My problem though is that control unit 5f doesn't appear (and I have set it up for my car, and tried with the engine running).  I found another post here - 5F module is missing | OBDeleven - which explained how to check the Gateway list coding and tick (check) 5f if that module is missing, but I don't even have 5f in the Gateway list coding list in order to tick (check) it and restore it.  Any other ideas? My car doesn't use an SD card for the maps, so I've assumed this alternative method isn't open to me.  

That will be the case of the missapearing control unit then. You got the Pro license in fine ?. That code you type in that unlocks the Pro side.

 

There is the Obdeleven forum, their help screens and Briskoda Obdeleven users. Suspect it's straight forwards to fix.

I have read this thread, but to be honest I am completelty lost about all this.

 

So, is there anyone in the North East of england (around Newcastle upon Tyne ) that I can visit and will assess the situation for me and if possible make the relevant adjustments for a reasonable cost as I find TMC valuable when travelling long distances.

On 17/08/2023 at 16:57, ghl3112 said:

 

Many thanks.  My problem though is that control unit 5f doesn't appear (and I have set it up for my car, and tried with the engine running).  I found another post here - 5F module is missing | OBDeleven - which explained how to check the Gateway list coding and tick (check) 5f if that module is missing, but I don't even have 5f in the Gateway list coding list in order to tick (check) it and restore it.  Any other ideas? My car doesn't use an SD card for the maps, so I've assumed this alternative method isn't open to me.  

Mine did once disappear from a Seat Arona. Think that was a programming issue in Obdeleven end. It interfaces with their servers. It did get fixed in the end. Might be something similar a bug with a specific model. It was fine on my Ateca. 

On 17/08/2023 at 15:37, ghl3112 said:

 

I bought the Obdeleven with the Pro license in order to fix this issue on my Skoda Superb 2012, but can't find the Multimedia screen (or any other screen with the Fee-Based Traffic Information) in the Adaptations menu.  Can anyone help me find this please?

 

Many thanks,

 

Geoff

 

A 2012 superb will be a MK2 with the older RNS510/Columbus navigation unit.

 

The fix is for the newer nav units fitted to the MK3 Superb.

12 hours ago, softscoop said:

A 2012 superb will be a MK2 with the older RNS510/Columbus navigation unit.

 

The fix is for the newer nav units fitted to the MK3 Superb.

There is one post on the thread where it's said the coding solution works for a mib1. Suspect that was the Columbus mib1 since that post came in ahead of it being sorted out for the map card based units.

 

My trick I use when it's not clear what people have is to read the part number of the hardware off a picture of the screen then do an image Google. Sellers often show the label on the unit. Zooming in you get to read the label. A photo shown of the map code installed also quickly gives the game away.

 

Circa 2015 on to 2020 it will be mib2 standard / high (Amundsen / Columbus) before not mib2. So you might get that mib1 fix on a Columbus unit prior to 2015 or there abouts of that vintage (fee based code 14 rather than 15) if it's one of those.

 

Mib2 on VW and Audi might have  Delphi rather than Technisat. Looking at the mibsolution firmware library Delphi units didn't get installed in Skoda or Seat.

 

The check whether it's a Technisat (the one it works with) if it starts with MST2 and ends with T, MST2_EU_??_XX_XXXXT its a Technisat and the solution works. The test posted above. I determined they only appear on Audi and VW.

Edited 20 August, 20232 yr by Tell

It doesn't help that Skoda used the same name for very different nav units through the generations.

 

A 2012 Superb will have the older MFD3, also known as the RNS510 or Columbus, which there isn't a fix for.