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Answer yes. Mib3 has zonal updates in it. So it is more zoned than mib2. Hence why they have just issued specific zones to RoW. It's based on connected services where the files are zoned so if you did have connected services it updates the map required for the destination. Thus in Europe with connected services you can strike a route between East and West Europe and it will trigger an over the air update. The modular construction of the files. Off line for RoW they just give you your piece.... clear as mud. Offline in Europe you get the whole European file. They didn't bother issuing Europe in fragments.

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  • Hi everyone. Found this one https://updateportalmaps.blob.core.windows.net/maps/OI_P154_EU_202534_Offline_Update.zip

  • I received the update over the air. I pay an annual subscription. Map Updates 2025.05

  • I tried using SWDL, but it turned out to be useless and didn’t work. I still ran the update with the same software that’s currently installed. From the whole update, only the postscript part was execu

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Now I have to find the MIB2 updates 😊

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Hi,
So I tried to update the maps, I bought a USB C thumb drive, downloaded the file from here OI_P146_MRM_ISR_202525_Offline_Update.zip
Then i formatted the drive and unzipped, connected to the car and turn the car on, nothing happened I plugged it in both USB C ports.
I then went to Skoda update site, accordin to VIN there I see I need this file EI_S153_EU_202525_Offline_Update.zip which is 14Gb, the file from here is just 250M.
1. Why didn't it start the update? Do I need to o into maintenance mode?
2. Why the VIN number suggest a difference file then my country one from here?
Thanks

I'm wondering whether that falls into the European import into Israel. Is that where you are. The Middle East countries dont come with maps. If so it wont have a Middle East navigation FeC. The issue comes up in Africa. Think Turkey also. You have to find a retrofitter to make it work. Yes it was Turkey where the guy was most upset that the dealer car had Turkish maps but his hadn't. Was told to find a retrofitter. You can buy a dongle which a retrofitter patches into to do it remotely. East Yorkshire Retrofit in the UK gave that bit of advice. The Turkish one found a retrofitter locally.

Does that make any sense. Israel / Europe.

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Its a genuine one of these VAS6154/6154A that retrofitters with fully licensed Vag software can remotely legally make changes to the car. Mib3 is locked down at a level that didnt occure with mib2 where hacks were used. Vag got that back under control with licenced access to the back end.

So yes if I p've understand the question, that's the answer.

15 hours ago, Tell said:

I'm wondering whether that falls into the European import into Israel. Is that where you are. The Middle East countries dont come with maps. If so it wont have a Middle East navigation FeC. The issue comes up in Africa. Think Turkey also. You have to find a retrofitter to make it work. Yes it was Turkey where the guy was most upset that the dealer car had Turkish maps but his hadn't. Was told to find a retrofitter. You can buy a dongle which a retrofitter patches into to do it remotely. East Yorkshire Retrofit in the UK gave that bit of advice. The Turkish one found a retrofitter locally.

Does that make any sense. Israel / Europe.

Hi,

So first I just bought the car around 3 months ago. Here there is only an official importer so the infotainment should be original from factory.

I'm not sure where it was imported from, but I do know it was manufactured in Czech republic, as it is stated in the car license.

The car have the hoghest spec sold here, and I have all the following features. virtual cockpit, lane assist, side assit, front assist, reverse camera, cruise control, traffic sign recognition, travel assist, emergency breaking I think it only break on reverse

So this is why I'm suprised. The car does NOT have built in GPS it relay on the android auto.

I wanted to have the maos updated since I think where there is no sign on the road, and android auto connected it take the speed limit from the map.

I also checked and it seems my VIN in the infotainment is not matching the car VIN, might be a security thing?

Available codes on the car

00050000 - bluetooh as far as I know, Installed

00070900 - can't find it, not Installed

00070d00 - could be apple car play, Installed

00070e00 - might be android auto, Installed

00072e00 - can't find it, not Installed

1 more code Installed but not in the available list dunno how that is possible

00070700

So I think I will try to use the maps the skoda site say match my VIN worst case it doesn't work

15 hours ago, Tell said:

I'm wondering whether that falls into the European import into Israel. Is that where you are. The Middle East countries dont come with maps. If so it wont have a Middle East navigation FeC. The issue comes up in Africa. Think Turkey also. You have to find a retrofitter to make it work. Yes it was Turkey where the guy was most upset that the dealer car had Turkish maps but his hadn't. Was told to find a retrofitter. You can buy a dongle which a retrofitter patches into to do it remotely. East Yorkshire Retrofit in the UK gave that bit of advice. The Turkish one found a retrofitter locally.

Does that make any sense. Israel / Europe.

42 minutes ago, nimni said:

Hi,

So first I just bought the car around 3 months ago. Here there is only an official importer so the infotainment should be original from factory.

I'm not sure where it was imported from, but I do know it was manufactured in Czech republic, as it is stated in the car license.

The car have the hoghest spec sold here, and I have all the following features. virtual cockpit, lane assist, side assit, front assist, reverse camera, cruise control, traffic sign recognition, travel assist, emergency breaking I think it only break on reverse

So this is why I'm suprised. The car does NOT have built in GPS it relay on the android auto.

I wanted to have the maos updated since I think where there is no sign on the road, and android auto connected it take the speed limit from the map.

I also checked and it seems my VIN in the infotainment is not matching the car VIN, might be a security thing?

Available codes on the car

00050000 - bluetooh as far as I know, Installed

00070900 - can't find it, not Installed

00070d00 - could be apple car play, Installed

00070e00 - might be android auto, Installed

00072e00 - can't find it, not Installed

1 more code Installed but not in the available list dunno how that is possible

00070700

So I think I will try to use the maps the skoda site say match my VIN worst case it doesn't work

I think you are into the curse of the Middle East, African and Turkey set up cars. The question is whether it has a regular infotainment system then a retrofitter can enable what hasn't been enabled. No GPS aerial may be stuck. Certainly the Turkey ones can be turned on via ODIS coding via an authorised dealer.

If the Skoda site is pointing to European maps that would suggest its authorised for Europe. If you did manage to zoom out with those loaded and saw Europe then you would still need the RoW navigation FeC. Probably better experts on mib3 FeCs on the board here but unless they got an ODIS license they wont be able to do anything.

Vag put pay to the hobbyist hacking of these units with mib3. No tool kits except authorised equipment and software. The availability of the mib3 Israel map probably means it's sold on something or they are planning too. Previously no cars were sold with Middle East maps by the Vag group, you had to enable that. More challenging now.

As mentioned East Yorkshire Retrofits that has a presence on this board have offered to remotely enable aspects of mib3 for a cost if the buyer, buys that Vag adapter. They would look up your Vin and see what's actually in the car. That's my best advice. They are licensed to do this work.

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16 minutes ago, Tell said:

I think you are into the curse of the Middle East, African and Turkey set up cars. The question is whether it has a regular infotainment system then a retrofitter can enable what hasn't been enabled. No GPS aerial may be stuck. Certainly the Turkey ones can be turned on via ODIS coding via an authorised dealer.

If the Skoda site is pointing to European maps that would suggest its authorised for Europe. If you did manage to zoom out with those loaded and saw Europe then you would still need the RoW navigation FeC. Probably better experts on mib3 FeCs on the board here but unless they got an ODIS license they wont be able to do anything.

Vag put pay to the hobbyist hacking of these units with mib3. No tool kits except authorised equipment and software. The availability of the mib3 Israel map probably means it's sold on something or they are planning too. Previously no cars were sold with Middle East maps by the Vag group, you had to enable that. More challenging now.

As mentioned East Yorkshire Retrofits that has a presence on this board have offered to remotely enable aspects of mib3 for a cost if the buyer, buys that Vag adapter. They would look up your Vin and see what's actually in the car. That's my best advice. They are licensed to do this work.

Thank you, how can I connect with that retrofitters?

1 hour ago, nimni said:

Thank you, how can I connect with that retrofitters?

They might be a board sponsor but I've seen them post here. Good reputation. Email will be on that link.

https://eastyorkshireretrofits.co.uk/

Updated. Thank you very much

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On 22/07/2025 at 22:33, Tell said:

It should do if that is the correct file for it and the USB is OK and the files are prepared correctly and no MAC was involved without CleanMyDrive...

It can take a number of hours if you start and stop... probably presentation. Have you found the VW PDF ?.

I put all three PDFs on post 1 here. Check against. All the same technical instructions on presentation.

https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/updating-the-inbuilt-mib3-satnav-offline.472408/#post-5030964

I use a Windows computer. I recently had a 2,500-kilometer trip, and the navigation system wouldn't update. I've read manuals from the entire VAG group. Now I'm trying to update using an NVME drive and an adapter because it has an LED. With the latest update from Skoda, the LED sometimes flashes for two minutes, then stays on continuously, but after a few hours, the navigation version is 23.12. I'm out of ideas.

You are not in the Middle East, Africa etc. Vag cars were shipped there without the navigation FeCs enabled. You find a retrofitter if so to enable it. Other than that its going to be an unzipping error or file presentation. If it's a second hand car shipped into the Middle East or Africa needs the FeCs altered. That comes up a lot.

& Turkey to that list.

7 hours ago, Tell said:

& Turcja do tej list

8 hours ago, Tell said:

You are not in the Middle East, Africa etc. Vag cars were shipped there without the navigation FeCs enabled. You find a retrofitter if so to enable it. Other than that its going to be an unzipping error or file presentation. If it's a second hand car shipped into the Middle East or Africa needs the FeCs altered. That comes up a lot.


The car comes from Sweden and is currently in Poland. The map is EU. I updated the MIB3 to p3320p, also in the EU version, and thought it would help. I unpacked it with 7-zip.

It might not like NVME drive. I've seen people trying to do it with SSDs. I'd stick to a standard pen usb stick with a LED. I got this link when I googled. Somebody was asking on there. Others may be available. 64gb is the size you require. Amazon may turn up others.

https://hardwarerecs.stackexchange.com/questions/18397/are-there-any-modern-usb-3-0-3-1-usb-flash-drives-with-indicator-activity-ligh

It should be formated to exFat. NTFS is slower.

I haven't said anything about issues using Macs recently. If you do you must run CleanMyDrive once the maps are copied over to the stick.

Don't mix different things on the stick. Only the map files.

There are reports that some Skoda firmware in the past needs updating if the map update doesn't work. Something to consider if it's not on the most recent firmware update. You might need a dealer for that.

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Using the technique that a kind sole gave me on here some months ago that file should give the same date of release as the one posted up, excepted it's incremented by 1... perhaps some fix ?

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The technique to read these for the technically minded is this:

Technical Note - Derivation of the YY.DD as shown on the Infotainment Screen

I have now been told how to read that YY.DD date off the files after putting out my request for some time for a bright spark into these Mib3 files. It's been delivered. If you don't want to load up the file you can look up what year the and periods the files relate to. It's important with MIB3 files you don't alter the contents because you can't they are signed and they will refuse to load. So no tampering with the files like mib2 standard maps.

Anyhow, this is how you do it thanks to C34 on the Briskoda site... only two posts popped up to tell me. You need to install DB Browser for SQLite. This has an extension in it to read the NDS Associate files, the normal SQL Lite brower that is popular won't. Install the MSI of DB Browser for SQLite in the link above.

We now use C34's text... In this example on the file
Update OI_P119_EU_202425_Offline_Update.zip contains data from 23.12 (YY.MM)... in this instance 25.06. That was a cut and paste job. Thank C34 again.

You can check this for example in the MIB31_EU.ROOT/3D/PRODUCT.NDS file. This is a SQLite database, you can find this information in the updateRegionTable table.

Probably only @MartiniB and myself plus a few others would check. It resolves what the file period is.

24 minutes ago, Tell said:

Using the technique that a kind sole gave me on here some months ago that file should give the same date of release as the one posted up, excepted it's incremented by 1... perhaps some fix ?

image.png

The technique to read these for the technically minded is this:

Technical Note - Derivation of the YY.DD as shown on the Infotainment Screen

I have now been told how to read that YY.DD date off the files after putting out my request for some time for a bright spark into these Mib3 files. It's been delivered. If you don't want to load up the file you can look up what year the and periods the files relate to. It's important with MIB3 files you don't alter the contents because you can't they are signed and they will refuse to load. So no tampering with the files like mib2 standard maps.

Anyhow, this is how you do it thanks to C34 on the Briskoda site... only two posts popped up to tell me. You need to install DB Browser for SQLite. This has an extension in it to read the NDS Associate files, the normal SQL Lite brower that is popular won't. Install the MSI of DB Browser for SQLite in the link above.

We now use C34's text... In this example on the file
Update OI_P119_EU_202425_Offline_Update.zip contains data from 23.12 (YY.MM)... in this instance 25.06. That was a cut and paste job. Thank C34 again.

You can check this for example in the MIB31_EU.ROOT/3D/PRODUCT.NDS file. This is a SQLite database, you can find this information in the updateRegionTable table.

Probably only @MartiniB and myself plus a few others would check. It resolves what the file period is.

Probably some fixes. i have 25.6 already installed. I’ve been trying for two days to update to these, but nothing happens (no new version).

1 hour ago, wolfr4ge said:

Probably some fixes. i have 25.6 already installed. I’ve been trying for two days to update to these, but nothing happens (no new version).

Probably wont since it already has you on 25.6. It will be a simple comparison of whether you are on that release already. The 154 code wont come into it. On a mib2 high swdl menu you can overwrite but I'm pretty sure you can't get swdl in mib3. All locked down. They dont want you messing internally in the unit.

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25.06 P153 and 25.06 P154 have different content

But as we found once on one or the other you can't change and you haven't been able to update in anycase due to technical reasons. I trust nobody has a way of updating from those 25.06 versions ?. No menu the same as swdl that forces an update.

Perhaps they had a shambles in the files used for the update so the original P153 was old data or missing entities and they have corrected it. But if true from the last poster you can't update to P154 then you are stuck on it till a higher release expressed in MM.YY. I'd say that is true unless someone has found a way to force an update in the engineering menu ?. Other than that you need trusty SWDL which I reckon normal mib3 users will be locked out of.

So if not on 25.06 and a lower release use the newer file. If already updated using P153. Hard cheese (English expression for tuff) unless there is any advance on forcing an update.

Or the text on the first page means its been solved ?

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< edit 2025.09.28 >

red ECE failed load in to Mib3 Amundsen of Škoda Superb Mk3.FL 2023

green succesed, thanks to @wolfr4ge

< edit OFF >

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Hmm its working 💪 for @MartiniB now since they corrected something but not for @wolfr4ge I think... I dunno.

The old one if it went in before you cant change it but if it failed and its been corrected then it will load ?.

It will all become 🤣. I guess nobody who had 25.06 already installed has been able to re-install it but if you haven't then you may be able to. Possibly the old part number thing they hadn't engineered the update for all units leaving a part number out. Vag was always doing this for the user POI import.

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15 minutes ago, Tell said:

But as we found once on one or the other you can't change and you haven't been able to update in anycase due to technical reasons. I trust nobody has a way of updating from those 25.06 versions ?. No menu the same as swdl that forces an update.

Perhaps they had a shambles in the files used for the update so the original P153 was old data or missing entities and they have corrected it. But if true from the last poster you can't update to P154 then you are stuck on it till a higher release expressed in MM.YY. I'd say that is true unless someone has found a way to force an update in the engineering menu ?. Other than that you need trusty SWDL which I reckon normal mib3 users will be locked out of.

So if not on 25.06 and a lower release use the newer file. If already updated using P153. Hard cheese (English expression for tuff) unless there is any advance on forcing an update.

I’ll go even further. I reset the navigation database through the basic ODIS setup (internal memory erase), then uploaded the REM 21.2 maps, and after that the MIB refuses to update to any newer maps that I tried to install. I tested 23.12, 24.6, and two different 25.6 versions. Normally, it takes me about 30–40 minutes to update, then I do a hard reset of the MIB, and the new version shows up. But this time - no way. I tried exFAT and NTFS, and even switched between MBR and GPT structures. The USB drive shows up in the MIB as a MirrorLink device; the files are visible there through the image viewer, and even screenshots get saved onto it, but the MIB just won’t start the update. I assume that MIB still recorded somewhere around version 25.6, and newer maps are needed.

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That might work but the complete reset might have deleted something that hasn't been put back. You are thinking, its still thinking that its on 25.06 may not be.

@MartiniB hadn't been able to do any map updates for a bit, I got told that on a DM but from the above it seemed to work. I know some people have updated their firmware. I believe early mib3 firmware didnt allow user map updates. By updating the firmware it fixed it.

Its that SWDL menu that I reckon is in mib3 but you are locked out of it. Mib2 high its that menu that allows you to upload any file into the system over writing what is there. Maps, POIs, firmware. Its that which you want which was on the developers menu of mib1 and mib2. Had to be enabled in mib2 and I reckon thats a no go area in mib3 unless ODIS gets you into it via enabling it ?. Obdeleven gave you an option in mib2 but everything is locked down now... least my understanding unless you are Vag licensed.

27 minutes ago, wolfr4ge said:

I’ll go even further. I reset the navigation database through the basic ODIS setup (internal memory erase), then uploaded the REM 21.2 maps, and after that the MIB refuses to update to any newer maps that I tried to install. I tested 23.12, 24.6, and two different 25.6 versions. Normally, it takes me about 30–40 minutes to update, then I do a hard reset of the MIB, and the new version shows up. But this time - no way. I tried exFAT and NTFS, and even switched between MBR and GPT structures. The USB drive shows up in the MIB as a MirrorLink device; the files are visible there through the image viewer, and even screenshots get saved onto it, but the MIB just won’t start the update. I assume that MIB still recorded somewhere around version 25.6, and newer maps are needed.

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