Trying to find the facts on storing petrol in Jerry Cans etc.

Seems you can store up to 60 gallons at home but only 2 gallons in the car.

How do you get it home from the petrol station?

The Petroleum Spirit (Motor Vehicles etc) Regulations 1929 seems to be the applicable bit of law. Blimey, well old!

lol

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Petroleum

Petrol is a dangerous substance, storage and use of petrol in workplaces is covered by the Dangerous Substances and Explosive Atmospheres Regulations 2002 (DSEAR). Dispensing petrol into a vehicle is covered by other legislation and in addition requires a licence.

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• Petroleum (Consolidation) Act 1928 (as amended by DSEAR)
  
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Petroleum (Consolidation) Act 1928 (as amended by DSEAR)

Petroleum licences - the Petroleum (Consolidation) Act 1928 (as amended by DSEAR) requires that anyone operating a petrol filling station should have a licence issued by their local Petroleum Licensing Authority. The requirement applies both to retail and non-retail filling stations ie those that dispense petrol to the general public and those which only dispense petrol into their own vehicles. Petrol filling stations are defined as sites that dispense petrol into vehicles, boats or aircraft by electrical or mechanical means.

The licences have conditions relating to safe storage, dispensing, maintenance, record-keeping etc. The requirements of DSEAR also apply.

Prior to the introduction of DSEAR, anyone storing significant amounts of petrol required a licence. However the requirement now applies only to operators of petrol filling stations and certain non-workplace situations (see the link below relating to the Petroleum Spirit (Motor Vehicle etc) Regulations).

Petroleum Spirit (Motor Vehicles etc) Regulations 1929

The Petroleum Spirit (Motor Vehicles etc) Regulations 1929 , no longer apply to workplaces (including petrol filling stations). However, they do apply to the domestic storage of petrol, including vehicles parked in a domestic garage or near residential premises.

Seems you can store up to 60 gallons at home but only 2 gallons in the car.

How do you get it home from the petrol station?

More than one trip?

Simples, don't use a car :/

Best place to store Petrol is either in the Tanks designed at the Stations or in your Car, why do you want Gallons at home.

If you or anyone on here are responsible for queues of the past few Days get a life. A Strike has not been called and may not even happen. I thought Sheep lived in fields and followed each other around. I would be ashamed to say I sat in a Queue for Petrol for no reason, People in Mansfield were even having a good old fight at the Pumps because he was taking extra fuel, its not rationed its paid for so who gives a flying duck. LEMMINGS

More than one trip?

Thirty I suppose. So my 20 litre Jerry can I should only full to half full I suppose. Need some more Jery cans, Halford HQ is here in Worcester I wonder if I can get some ordered. Our Government has said we should all top off our tanks and store as much as we can although the Fire Brigade Union offered good advice and I the HSE publish the law on this which is quite clear but deffinately need two or more Jerry cans due to the descrepencies between what you can carry and what you can store.

Need some more Jery cans, Halford HQ is here in Worcester I wonder if I can get some ordered. Our Government has said we should all top off our tanks and store as much as we can.

Why do you want to store fuel at home?

Ask yourself two simple questions:

How long have I been driving?

When did I last store fuel in jerry cans (apart from some fuel for the mower)?

Why do you want to store fuel at home?

Ask yourself two simple questions:

How long have I been driving?

When did I last store fuel in jerry cans (apart from some fuel for the mower)?

I would rather not carry the fuel cans around on the short journeys and only carry it on the long journeys ie those close to or greater than the tank rage of the car I am using ie 400 miles or so. I think I need 3 or perhaps 4 Jerry cans, one to keep at home and one for each car making the long journey. It sounds like you should not keep more than 2 gallons ie 9 litres in the car ie in the boot. Shame Skoda's have such small fuel tanks and the current Skoda diesels have such poor acceleration, there is nothing in the range, like Audi and VW that have both good performance in terms of acceleration and range.

Edited 31 March, 201214 yr by lol

I would rather not carry the fuel cans around on the short journeys and only carry it on the long journeys ie those close to or greater than the tank rage of the car I am using ie 400 miles or so. I think I need 3 or perhaps 4 Jerry cans, one to keep at home and one for each car making the long journey. It sounds like you should not keep more than 2 gallons ie 9 litres in the car ie in the boot. Shame Skoda's have such small fuel tanks and the current Skoda diesels have such poor acceleration, there is nothing in the range, like Audi and VW that have both good performance in terms of acceleration and range.

Are you for real or are you just trolling?

Are you for real or are you just trolling?

They are just the facts. I had an Audi A4 with the 1.9D 130 hp, big fuel tank, decent accelearation ie 0-60 in about 9 seconds. The recent crop of VAG 4 cylinder diesels have been a real dissappontment compared to the BMW 3 series 2 litre diesel in terms of performance and economy, it is just the huge price difference that is off putting and that should come back in to line as the Euro weakens against GBP as having a Euro worth about 90 pence made Euro zone made cars very expensive but that should eventually re-align as a Euro returns to being only 70 pence or 60 pence.

Would be great if Skoda got a 5 or 6 cylinder diesel or the full 270 hp TSI or even the 340 hp 5 cylinder TSI but I suppose that is not the brand VAG want.

Edited 31 March, 201214 yr by lol

They are just the facts. I had an Audi A4 with the 1.9D 130 hp, big fuel tank, decent accelearation ie 0-60 in about 9 seconds. The recent crop of VAG 4 cylinder diesels have been a real dissappontment compared to the BMW 3 series 2 litre diesel in terms of performance and economy, it is just the huge price difference that is off putting and that should come back in to line as the Euro weakens against GBP as having a Euro worth about 90 pence made Euro zone made cars very expensive but that should eventually re-align as a Euro returns to being only 70 pence or 60 pence.

Would be great if Skoda got a 5 or 6 cylinder diesel or the full 270 hp TSI or even the 340 hp 5 cylinder TSI but I suppose that is not the brand VAG want.

More fool you for not buying BMW, you would have saved in the long run because youll loose the depreciation on your VAG plus the depreciation you'll be paying on your BMW when you eventually buy it.

Anyhow back to your first foolish remark, when would you need to take jerry cans? I can't think of anywhere in the UK where you'll drive 400 miles and not go pas one filling station?!

Jesus freakin' Christ.

I worry about people like you.

1) the closest strike will be AFTER Easter Weekend, if it ever happens. That's like stockpiling beef in case cows suddenly become extinct.

2) petrol goes off in 3-4 weeks.

3) there are plenty of decent diesel engines in the VAG range. My Octavia has the same engine as your Audi. I also suggest you have a look at the 3.0 TDi. It's extremely impressive. The Superb has a detuned R36 engine in it. Apparently remapping it brings excellent dividends. The 2.0 170 lump is an excellent engine too.

4) STOP READING THE DAILY MAIL.

I didn't know petrol went off so quickly. Learnt something new today.

So what happens to it and how do you guard against issues if you go for say an extended holiday? Will the car just run really lumpy?

For those in rented properties,it might just pay to read tenancy conditions. An likewise for those with ex council properties. I' d even suggest that there might be a clause in mortgage conditions restricting/limiting quantities of fuel stored . And possibly more in the house insurance T & C .The minister responsible for suggesting storage at home , should be held to account for starting a panic. Possibly a suspended sentance ( suspended by the g***liess,and not just that place near Hull :think: ) .

Then back to poor acceleration . I regularly give boy racers in their chavmobiles a showing up ,when turbo kicks in . I'll go even further than that. I hired a 2L Mondeo some time back and was not impressed with ( LACK OF) acceleration at 70 .I had to drop gears to get out of trouble. InFurby,I'd just press harder .

I didn't know petrol went off so quickly. Learnt something new today.

So what happens to it and how do you guard against issues if you go for say an extended holiday? Will the car just run really lumpy?

After a couple of weeks it starts to loose it's octane rating, plus some of the lubricants in it evaporate off. I was always told that if being left for a while it was better to leave tank low, and then refill when next used.

Diesel is the opposite, and it is better to keep a full tank of that to stop condensation.

I had a RIB a while back that held 500L of petrol 2 x 200l tanks and one 100l tank + 2 x 25l jerry cans. when I had to fill up was when I found the normal forcourt pump will only deliver 90l in one hit :-( plus was never sure if it was leagal to tow it on the road. I now have a jet ski and that holds 60l so not quite so bad apart from the consumption of about 2MPG :-(

More fool you for not buying BMW, you would have saved in the long run because youll loose the depreciation on your VAG plus the depreciation you'll be paying on your BMW when you eventually buy it.

Anyhow back to your first foolish remark, when would you need to take jerry cans? I can't think of anywhere in the UK where you'll drive 400 miles and not go pas one filling station?!

Well the BMW 3 series 2 litre diesel is very impressive with its over 60 mpg combined and 0-60 of less than 8 seconds but on the downside it does cost about £30K for a decent spec. Frustrated that I might ahve to look outside the VAG brand which I followed so loyally from a couple of decades.

I live in the middle of the country but my job is to visit my company's offfices at the airport and ports which may be about 400 miles from my home ie Felixstowe, Tilbury etc. I do not want to be hunting around for fuel half way back on these journeys and hence look to carry ten or twenty litres in a Jerry can or two to be sure I can make it home.

It is the Government's incompetence that has led to the panic buying, conseqential injuries to people.

I will probably add a 1.6 CR with the 7 speed DSG to the fleet if I do stay with Skoda/VAG but I wish Skoda/VAG would produce a decent on road performance version ie one with about 150-160 hp so it would do circa 60 mpg but have a reasonable turn of speed Have your cake and eat it. £20K nice car with legs for sprinting and distance and no need to carry fuel cans during the current fuel crisis.

Edited 1 April, 201214 yr by lol

After a couple of weeks it starts to loose it's octane rating, plus some of the lubricants in it evaporate off. I was always told that if being left for a while it was better to leave tank low, and then refill when next used.

Diesel is the opposite, and it is better to keep a full tank of that to stop condensation.

The AA\RAC use to say that people should not run around with their tanks near empty for long periods of time as when they use to then fill up say pre-holiday run it would then it would wash the crud through the system and cause problems. Not sure this applies so much these days with better materials.

Do not seem to have problems in the motorbikes which do not get used in mid Winter, thankfully. They are proving to be useful additional practical means of transport during the fuel crisis, have used one of them to run down to Heathrow during th nice weather. Useful to top them up from the Jerry cans and then fill the Jerry can and car tanks at the same time but it is difficult to know when the local supermarkets have fuel as they get a delivery and run out a few hours later and the independants are now out and not due to get deliveries for a day or two now.

Edited 1 April, 201214 yr by lol

Jesus freakin' Christ.

I worry about people like you.

1) the closest strike will be AFTER Easter Weekend, if it ever happens. That's like stockpiling beef in case cows suddenly become extinct.

2) petrol goes off in 3-4 weeks.

3) there are plenty of decent diesel engines in the VAG range. My Octavia has the same engine as your Audi. I also suggest you have a look at the 3.0 TDi. It's extremely impressive. The Superb has a detuned R36 engine in it. Apparently remapping it brings excellent dividends. The 2.0 170 lump is an excellent engine too.

4) STOP READING THE DAILY MAIL.

1) It is panic buying brought on by the Government that has created the shortage.

2) Petrol does not go off in weeks or even months, I leave my motorbikes for months over winter and they run just fine after then

3) Loved the 130 hp PD which I had in the A3, A4 and my recently sold 1.9D Octy1. 3 litre TDI not available in Skoda range and expensive in other VAG brands. 3.6 litre petrol old and thirsty, need to move to 3.2 ASAP or the 2.5 litre 5 cylinder. Sorry but 2 litre CR is smooth and quite but also not so good on fuel or acceleration. Needs more like 400 Nm of torque, from the factory plus 100K or even unlimited warranty like other brands.

4) Only buy the Dialy Mirror or Times/Fin Times occasionally for business data.

Edited 1 April, 201214 yr by lol

For those in rented properties,it might just pay to read tenancy conditions. An likewise for those with ex council properties. I' d even suggest that there might be a clause in mortgage conditions restricting/limiting quantities of fuel stored . And possibly more in the house insurance T & C .The minister responsible for suggesting storage at home , should be held to account for starting a panic. Possibly a suspended sentance ( suspended by the g***liess,and not just that place near Hull :think: ) .

Then back to poor acceleration . I regularly give boy racers in their chavmobiles a showing up ,when turbo kicks in . I'll go even further than that. I hired a 2L Mondeo some time back and was not impressed with ( LACK OF) acceleration at 70 .I had to drop gears to get out of trouble. InFurby,I'd just press harder .

Tried a 1.4D, thought I kept missing gears as it felt like it had so little go in the gears. It is partly what you get use to, we currently run a Furby and Octy TSI VRSs plus motorcycles, any three or four cylinder diesel in the VAG range is going to feel slow by back to back comparison.

VAG should have go twin turbo or upped the CCs to 2.2 litre or produce a proper hot version of the 1.6CR to keep things advancing but they seem to be concentrating most the R&D on the petrols, start-stop and petrol-hybrids at present.

I live in the middle of the country but my job is to visit my company's offfices at the airport and ports which may be about 400 miles from my home ie Felixstowe, Tilbury etc. I do not want to be hunting around for fuel half way back on these journeys and hence look to carry ten or twenty litres in a Jerry can or two to be sure I can make it home.

Sorry but that is still rubbish. More fool you, let's hope your don't have a crash and go up in flames.

Well the BMW 3 series 2 litre diesel is very impressive with its over 60 mpg combined and 0-60 of less than 8 seconds but on the downside it does cost about £30K for a decent spec. Frustrated that I might ahve to look outside the VAG brand which I followed so loyally from a couple of decades.

Bear in mind though that part of the reason some diesel BMWs get such good MPG figures on paper is that they use stop start technology. Fine in theory, but if like me you live out in the sticks and never see a traffic queue from one year to the next it will save precisely bugger all fuel and you may find in reality you get no better MPG than a Skoda CR with none of this stuff on it!

1) It is panic buying brought on by the Government that has created the shortage.

2) Petrol does not go off in weeks or even months, I leave my motorbikes for months over winter and they run just fine after then

3) Loved the 130 hp PD which I had in the A3, A4 and my recently sold 1.9D Octy1. 3 litre TDI not available in Skoda range and expensive in other VAG brands. 3.6 litre petrol old and thirsty, need to move to 3.2 ASAP or the 2.5 litre 5 cylinder. Sorry but 2 litre CR is smooth and quite but also not so good on fuel or acceleration. Needs more like 400 Nm of torque, from the factory plus 100K or even unlimited warranty like other brands.

4) Only buy the Dialy Mirror or Times/Fin Times occasionally for business data.

1) we agree here, government are morons. Then again, it's worked in their favour financially.

2) not to the point where it stops working, as Llani pointed out it simply loses its efficiency, octane rating, additives, etc. Keep some Redex handy for those bikes...

3) it's obviously not VAG's priority right now. VW and Audi form the 'premium' sector, therefore get those lovely engines. However, the 2.0 TDi is similar to the BMW engine. Both carry 170bhp (the _23d engine is cheating, that has 2 turbos despite being 2-litre), however, BMW's Efficient Dynamics program ensures scarcely believable fuel economy. If you transferred such technology over to the VAG cars, which I'm sure they're working on, they'll be a whole lot closer.

4) are the Mirror still Labour..? I know they used to be.

Sorry but that is still rubbish. More fool you, let's hope your don't have a crash and go up in flames.

Or somebody hits me up the ass and does the same but then the fuel tank goes the same way anyway like we saw at the Taunton RTA a few weeks ago. Was standing at the lights on Wednesday, on the SV650, I stopped for those lights, the guy behind me in the car was going to, fortunately he swerved and hit the car in the left hand lane beside me.

Really do not want to carry fuel arround and will probably not when I am visiting Gatwick, Heathrow but it is the Felixstowe and Tilbury journeys of the 400 miles that the 3 petrol Skodas we have, including daughters HPI, only do around 450 miles on a tank so if you get held up in an RTA or whatever you may not make it home so ten litres or so in the jerry can makes the difference but with many makes of car it would not be needed at their fuel tanks are 20% bigger or so.

Either this or we need the fuel cylinder cut off and other tweaks ie greenline petrols that improve the fuel consumption by another 10 or 20%. E mode on the DSG perhaps.

Probably will order a 1.6CR DSG but I gather their is quite a wait for one.

Edited 7 April, 201214 yr by lol