Can i stay On the Off Topic / VAG Topic please while we wait to try a Golf R Estate or a Golf R 400.

Tumble weed is blowing past.

I like dirty estates.

George, there's another thread for random hot hatches

Can i stay On the Off Topic / VAG Topic please while we wait to try a Golf R Estate or a Golf R 400.

Tumble weed is blowing past.

I like dirty estates.

George,

Especially for you:http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/353088-diy-car-care-changing/

Back on topic.............

 

video of the VW plant which makes the Golf estates........................GTD, Alltrack & R shown in video................................

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d8JdJQisag&feature=youtu.be

My VW Dealer tells  me today, that the delivery lead-time on the R Estate is currently 5 months.

My VW Dealer tells  me today, that the delivery lead-time on the R Estate is currently 5 months.

Forgot to say ,"off the cuff discount" (1st cut, no negotiation on my part) was 5% on a £38k spec car. Interesting when I got 19% off the R hatch.

That's not good enough for me!

Not really surprising though on a newly released car with a 5 month waiting list?

Glad I don't need the space

Just bought some ClimAir wind deflectors in Sport Black.

2 week delivery from Germany.

Wife was fed up with the air buffetting when I have my window down. Seems to be quite bad on the mk7.

Hopefully these will arrive before the warm weather arrives. I want to get a good tan on my right arm

Does anyone know the waiting time on the hatch?

Thinking of ordering the 3door manual in oryx white but would have liked it in time for beginning of July.

About 13% discount on drive the deal

Dealer would not get close

19% is superb

Glad I don't need the space

Had a text from my missus's Brother-in Law last night, he has just placed an order for an R Estate, trading in his 2 1/2 year old Merc E class 220Diesel Estate (Top spec). - what a contrast hey!

We were up at their place in Derbyshire last week and he wanted a test /demo in my Hatch . Suffice to say a foot to the rev-limiter up a dual carriageway and then a brisk run around some local country roads, he was blown away.

Yesterday, a week later, it's September delivery (5 months lead-time, as I pointed out a couple of days ago)

No real decent discount forthcoming ,as I previously pointed out but he has got some reasonable extras thrown in .(Will get more detail soon.

Bought on PCP @ 3 YEARS /10000 MILES. Deposit 30% payments. Cost £380 /month.

He runs his own consultancy business, so guess recovery of some of the outlay with creative accounting.

He's chuffed to bits, I remember that feeling well!

So it will be a brisk few runs through the Derbyshire and Wiltshire Countryside come September, in Hatch and Estate and park up in a good few local pubs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5mudm3shJE

Edited 6 May, 201511 yr by vrskeith

Had a text from my missus's Brother-in Law last night, he has just placed an order for an R Estate, trading in his 2 1/2 year old Merc E class 220Diesel Estate (Top spec). - what a contrast hey!

We were up at their place in Derbyshire last week and he wanted a test /demo in my Hatch . Suffice to say a foot to the rev-limiter up a dual carriageway and then a brisk run around some local country roads, he was blown away.

Yesterday, a week later, it's September delivery (5 months lead-time, as I pointed out a couple of days ago)

No real decent discount forthcoming ,as I previously pointed out but he has got some reasonable extras thrown in .(Will get more detail soon.

Bought on PCP @ 3 YEARS /10000 MILES. Deposit 30% payments. Cost £380 /month.

He runs his own consultancy business, so guess recovery of some of the outlay with creative accounting.

He's chuffed to bits, I remember that feeling well!

So it will be a brisk few runs through the Derbyshire and Wiltshire Countryside come September, in Hatch and Estate and park up in a good few local pubs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5mudm3shJE

Make sure you get some pics posted up of your hatch and his estate together. Would be nice to see :-)

Tom,

Will be just like the video - both Lapis Blue. I know he has a pano' roof as one of the add ons.

Will also be good to sample DSG v MANUAL performance /experience.

Will try and do the photo thing!

Unfortunately September feels a long way off.

Edited 6 May, 201511 yr by vrskeith

Bit more detailed video review :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0hF8wgRsGw

Still £380 with £10k dep? Shame

Took one out today, Guy at work has just got one nabbed the keys for it, a 15 plate 5 door manual in white standard spec. "do what you want with it, just bring it back in one piece",.. so I did.

 

Conclusion

 

Pluses

 

linear power delivery, limpet like grip and cornering. a level up from a GTD/GTI, rapid

 

Minus's

 

Driver feels disconnected from the car, little/no sense of involvement

 

Doesn't feel as quick as anticipated/ mute

 

A step up, but not as big as anticipated./ muted

 

Gearing feels a little short especially in third and fourth.

 

Looks a bit pants in white

 

Conclusion

 

Still can't get excited about it like keith etc, good car, but I wouldn't rave about it

 

Not sure if its enough of a step up to justify ownership

 

Still undecided currently

 

BTW the passenger, another work colleague, who I dragged along for the fright was a little wobbly after.. had a similar view to myself.

Seems a fair review

Might not have felt as fast as anticipated, but surely it was faster by quite a bit compared to a MK7 GTD if you pushed the throttle downwards.

As to the rest of it, then steering / handling must be much the same as the Front Wheel driver if on dry roads with traction.

 

What i find there is to rave about with them is that they put the power available down in UK type foul weather conditions & even doing it pretty well on the tyres fitted from the factory,

and that can hardly be said about Front Wheel Drive only Mk7 Golfs when its wet.

 

I have not driven a manual so i have no idea on gearing with them,

the DSG i like, and the Golf R feels fine for involved driving to me, different from the S3 Sportback or Saloon, 

but as far as going point to point quickly and safely they all do that well.

 

Then after all is said and done, in the UK NSL corners at 60mph, a 75ps VW Polo can do that.

Edited 7 May, 201511 yr by goneoffSKi

Seems a fair review

 

Thank's Kenny, I did give it a good go and with an open mind, though couldn't quite get as enthused as I thought I might. As mentioned, it is a level up compared to the benchmark for a GTI/VRS/GTD etc in all aspects, though I thought the gap would be bigger...not quite the wow factor for me.

 

That said I need to decide if I can live with it on a day to day basis doing 20,000 miles a year and the additional fuel costs over the GTD. One of the big attractions is the actual cost of the car, which for me is comparable with the GTD and is extremely attractive to say the least and which I need to consider along with the car itself.

 

 

I do get the it doesn't feel as fast as you would think. Linear torque does that and really only speedo gives game away.

To me traction is the huge tell tale when in damp conditions. That said I do u see stand the not special view.

I don't buy the R is much different from the S3. Yes it is a little but not in the way it's portrayed but that's a side issue

I do get the it doesn't feel as fast as you would think. Linear torque does that and really only speedo gives game away.

To me traction is the huge tell tale when in damp conditions. That said I do u see stand the not special view.

I don't buy the R is much different from the S3. Yes it is a little but not in the way it's portrayed but that's a side issue

 

The R has a more aggressive R/sport mode, with more noise and sharper handling.

I drove both within a day or so of each other and personally I found they felt reasonably different.

Audi have gone for a softer feel with the S3.  Arguably better as a daily, but not as good when going bonkers.

Took one out today, Guy at work has just got one nabbed the keys for it, a 15 plate 5 door manual in white standard spec. "do what you want with it, just bring it back in one piece",.. so I did.

 

Conclusion

 

Pluses

 

linear power delivery, limpet like grip and cornering. a level up from a GTD/GTI, rapid

 

Minus's

 

Driver feels disconnected from the car, little/no sense of involvement

 

Doesn't feel as quick as anticipated/ mute

 

A step up, but not as big as anticipated./ muted

 

Gearing feels a little short especially in third and fourth.

 

Looks a bit pants in white

 

Conclusion

 

Still can't get excited about it like keith etc, good car, but I wouldn't rave about it

 

Not sure if its enough of a step up to justify ownership

 

Still undecided currently

 

BTW the passenger, another work colleague, who I dragged along for the fright was a little wobbly after.. had a similar view to myself.

 

 

Seems a fair review

 

I must be driving a totally different car, day in day out.

 

B33fy, thanks for the Snapshot review - however as you might expect I will agree to disagree with your Snapshot  conclusion.(Sorry if my enthusiasm for the marque is so transparent - but real)

 

I would stick with what you've, got if you can't truly appreciate the Golf in driving experience with what you own / drive.

 

It would have been interesting to have your colleague owners comments side by side with yours.

 

Enjoy your car ,as I do mine and I hope that your new car final decision is everything you aspire it to be.

I've been and driven an 'R' and as above, I didn't feel connected to the road and I was dissapointed in it overall. I dont know what specifically but it just didn't feel that special. I certainly wouldn't buy one based on the 25 mile run I gave it.

I thinks it's really funny that we have people who "get" the VW 4wd & those who don't get it

 

Bit like when the Bugatti Veron came out, loads of people shouting, feels dull & doesn't communicate..whilst other raved abut it

 

Thing is VAG do 4wd very well & those cars are rewarding if you know how.......however they do the daily driver so well that you forget that you are going X speed down the road.

 

people read it's hot & a rave then drive it expecting a sort of Scooby type feeling.............sorry won't happen, it's more grown up!, it just puts is power down the road in all conditions, no fuss no wheel spin, just glued...........

 

As for "negatives" on a test drive being "sound" & colour, again on the M135 thread people are saying the same about the BMW & fitting the sports exhaust......sound & colour are easy to rectify...just order the colour you like