For now, however in the next 12-18 months NOX will be tested under the MOT

Could be a lot failing when that comes in to force

WOW

Holy you-know-what!

(have I told you about my Pug recently.........PUT THAT DOWN)

I'm still waiting for VW's definitive list which they promised early THIS week.

7 Oct is not far off for the defined 'fix' as required by the German govt....quick-sticks VW, time is running out fast.

Using the link above to the Checker on the Skoda site my Superb Greenline is also on the list where I must contact my "service partner as soon as possible"

Using the link above to the Checker on the Skoda site my Superb Greenline is also on the list where I must contact my "service partner as soon as possible"

I'll be trying to defer the 'fix' until the potential problems with IT is no longer an issue.

I don't want a recall on a recall and all that wasted time.

Ryeman, I understand your logic.  I won't be hurrying to my dealer either.  I am simply too busy at the moment until mid November anyway and need my car most days for 200 miles of driving.

I'm expecting there'll be options such as

A fair buyout price offered for those who don't want less power/higher consumption

That's not what I originally signed up for.

Without mutual satisfaction , there can be NO resolution.

VW AG know the class action lawyers are circling so expect satisfaction all round.

Edited 30 September, 201510 yr by Ryeman

According to a few newspaper a big recall is underway, old News.

But it says further that the majority will get a software fix, and the rest new engines.

Has this been mentioned anywhere else?

For now, however in the next 12-18 months NOX will be tested under the MOT

Could be a lot failing when that comes in to force

 

Will they?

Do you have evidence?

Gromle, New engines sounds unlikely. New components such as an adblu injection system perhaps but in many cases it would be cheaper for VW to replace the car rather than the engine.

Edited 30 September, 201510 yr by Pesmog

Gromle, New engines sounds unlikely. New components such as an adblu injection system perhaps but in many cases it would be cheaper for VW to replace the car rather than the engine.

Thats what I think too. A new engine Sounds abit much. It was only mentioned in a couple of articles, so In guessing that journalist was clickbaiting or misread a press release.

For those who have checked their VIN and been found wanting, could they publish the vehicle type, model,

Reg date and engine spec please.

We are on extended holiday in the USA ... and I can't remember my VIN off the top of my head...

Just checked the vin number on the checker and got the standard reply:

Dear customer,

a recall campaign has been found for the entered VIN xxxxxxx.

Please contact your preferred service partner as soon as possible, who will provide you with all necessary information and service to ensure your safety and car functions. If further assistance is needed, please contact the „ŠKODA Customer Hotline“.

I won't allow them to make any changes to the vehicle until I have documented results from VAG showing how the changes will effect BHP, torque, MPG and performance, after all these were factors I took into account before purchasing the vehicle. I would also like info on how any changes may effect the regeneration of the DPF.

The vehicle is only 9 months old and I love the vehicle how it is and would not be happy with anything less.

For now, however in the next 12-18 months NOX will be tested under the MOT

Could be a lot failing when that comes in to force

 

Do you have a source for that?  I've seen speculation there will be nox testing in a few years but still nothing firm and certainly not starting as soon as the next 12-18 months.

 

If they are testing for Nox emissions then it's not going to be just a VW problem as currently many cars fail to meet the EU6 limit under testing (as much as 9 in 10 currently) nor do they meet the CO2 emissions requirements either.  Furthermore the nox limits in California are far tougher than even the EU6 regulations, hence the need for the defeat device to get around them which isn't need here to get the nox emissions as the limits aren't that tight for EU5.

 

John

I'm taking the view that my car is performing exactly the same as it was before the 'scandal' news broke, so I can't see the need to rush the car back to the dealer for the recall campaign.

I don't believe that VW / Skoda / Audi / Seat have redressed the problem this fast, my guess is that they will remove the cheat software first then work out a long term solution.

 

I was wondering how polluting my diesel Octavia is as I was waiting to see the road ahead of me after the bus I was following left a smoke screen as it pulled away from the bus stop.

Edited 30 September, 201510 yr by moley

Thats what I think too. A new engine Sounds abit much. It was only mentioned in a couple of articles, so In guessing that journalist was clickbaiting or misread a press release.

New engines at 'cost' is not to be confused with retail however.....one 'heavy hit' for VW AG might be preferable to many smaller ones.

Remember THE FORCE IS WITH YOU.

VW has no friends just now.

I'm taking the view that my car is performing exactly the same as it was before the 'scandal' news broke, so I can't see the need to rush the car back to the dealer for the recall campaign.

I don't believe that VW / Skoda / Audi / Seat have redressed the problem this fast, my guess is that they will remove the cheat software first then work out a long term solution.

 

I was wondering how polluting my diesel Octavia is as I was waiting to see the road ahead of me after the bus I was following left a smoke screen as it pulled away from the bus stop.

 

I can't see what they need to do to cars here aside from remove the cheating software as unlike in the US, they don't need to cheat the nox test to get the car compliant as the EU5 nox limits are much higher than the US limits (which are much lower than the EU6 limits).  It would be different if the cars were missing EGR or DPF equipment which would be required here to meet EU specification but they're clearly fitted with both.

 

With regards to your comment about the bus, I am finding it daft how some people (not here) are making out that all VW based cars are pumping out deadly fumes and all other cars are just producing pure clean air when the situation in Europe is very different to that in the US and most cars are producing similar emissions.

 

John

I am finding it daft how some people (not here) are making out that all VW based cars are pumping out deadly fumes and all other cars are just producing pure clean air when the situation in Europe is very different to that in the US and most cars are producing similar emissions.

Agree with that.

I think there are two issues with emissions, the first is that clearly VW should not have used a software 'cheat' in the US or anywhere else, The second issue is that the test used does not reflect what happens in the real world and I would guess most diesels will give higher figures than any lab test. I often see cars, vans, lorries and buses chucking out plumes of smoke and not always diesels. Ever had a petrol vehicle pull away in front of you and leave a cloud of blue smoke where the valve seals or piston rings are worn? There was a 13 plate Transit on the motorway the other day smoking really badly, so even if an engine type conforms to current test standards, but has a fault or is not serviced correctly it could be far worse than the VW EU5 engine on the recall list.   

I just got the following from my dealer:

 

Dear Matt,

 

As you may be aware, the Volkswagen Group in Germany is currently working through an emission issue on certain diesel engines. SomeŠKODA four cylinder diesel engines are affected by this issue.

 

We have received advice overnight from ŠKODA AUTO a.s in the Czech Republic that there is an action plan for resolving this issue.

We are awaiting confirmation as to which specific vehicles are involved in New Zealand and the appropriate technical solutions.

Should your vehicle be involved, we will be in touch about the next steps as soon as possible. Please note, all vehicles are safe and roadworthy.
 

If you have any queries in the meantime, please either contact us at [email protected] or your local ŠKODA dealership.

 

ŠKODA New Zealand is, and always has been, committed to our customers and that remains our absolute priority.

 

Kind regards,

how nice of them,  so after it's "fixed"   it will, a/  use more juice,  b/ won't pull the **** off a chocolate soldier:   but at least a lot of people will be able  to,  a/  polish their halo's,   b/  drive round feeling smug and holier than thou'  ( largely the media but mainly the BBC  - SKY   and the comedy channel otherwise known as "breaking news" |FOX """"NEWS"""    

I can't see what they need to do to cars here aside from remove the cheating software as unlike in the US, they don't need to cheat the nox test to get the car compliant as the EU5 nox limits are much higher than the US limits (which are much lower than the EU6 limits).  It would be different if the cars were missing EGR or DPF equipment which would be required here to meet EU specification but they're clearly fitted with both.

 

With regards to your comment about the bus, I am finding it daft how some people (not here) are making out that all VW based cars are pumping out deadly fumes and all other cars are just producing pure clean air when the situation in Europe is very different to that in the US and most cars are producing similar emissions.

 

John

They are recalling 10.5 million from other than the U.S. because they won't meet the relevant EU (other?) emmissions criteria without the 'cheat' software......otherwise it would be a v simple fix......it's not and it'll be expensive I'm thinking.

If you're having trouble sleeping try

CARPOINT.COM.AU / NEWS

There are some statements such as the suggestion from the German govt that if VW AG don't meet the 7/10 deadline existing vehicles may not be driven until fixed......best of luck with that.

The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) is all fired up to get involved.......that'll be interesting too.

Dear customer,
a recall campaign has been found for the entered VIN:xxxxxxxxx.

Please contact your preferred service partner as soon as possible, who will provide you with all necessary information and service to ensure your safety and car functions. If further assistance is needed, please contact the „ŠKODA Customer Hotline“.

 

 

Seems like I'm in the list too (CFHC engine). I doubt that somebody will trouble me and I'll better wait to see what happens. If Skoda improves engines and gives a piece of pie then I'll start thinking about going to the dealer. Otherwise I'll act as an ostrich - I'll bury my head and pretend that I don't know a thing

^^^ I agree

if you're not in a hurry, why rush?.

As I have told the dealer, I will give them every option to sort the car, and I am confident that non of the VW Group want any more bad press which is all they would do if they **** people off by ruining there cars...

I hope that they have done a blanket recall of ALL EU5 cars, but some will, some won't need anything doing, they will be checked at the time.. I also hope that the cheat code is just there, dormant and never needed for the UK/EU so it will just be a case of removing what is classed as illegal code (Which may have never even been activated) and we carry on as normal..

They have screwed up, big style, but unlike some I am not sitting here rubbing my hands together thinking "What can I spend my compensation on".. I am not interested... IF, and it is an IF they ruin what is a perfect car, then I request the option to upgrade and pay the difference, as my Superb is 14 months still only has 8000 miles on the clock...

I really see this is all blown up for nothing, they will fix the car and make sure they keep 132000 Skoda owners happy... If it was me I would not want to **** 132000 off and lose them as customers..

I am, like you, a Superb driver. Pun intended ... CFFB is the engine, that drives my Combi.

I think we all are omitting the big picture. If VAG could solve the problem by erasing the test mode subroutine from the software, without affecting performance and fuel consumption, then they will do it. But, given the fact, that VAG has been aware of the problem, they' ve had on their hands, I count that out as a real possibility. Let us not forget, that real emissions are 10x to 40x higher during use, than allowed in USA. I do not believe, that EU ceilings are 10x to 40x higher.

As I see it, they will have to either change and upgrade parts or complete engine.

Not to mention compensation of owners and Authorities for the taxes, if those are based on COx and NOx emissions.

And to think of compensations for loss of value and breach of contract (and I am not even talking about breach of trust ... ).

As the Yanks would say; The s*it really hit a big fan this time!

Oh No, my diesel car is killing people

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34407670

 

Smoking only kills 100,000 people a year in the UK,........................................ but we still sell cigarettes. :think: