PM statement at Number 10

[Laurie61]

It looks like Timmy Farron has just realised that his pro EU stance has got him nowhere in the polling over the last nine months and is trying to do the mother of all U turns.

 

"Tim Farron has described himself as a "bit of a Eurosceptic" despite his party's pro-EU stance.

Mr Farron cited his 2008 resignation from the Lib Dem front bench because he wanted a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty."

 

Hang on, did I read that right, Timmy Farron likes EU referendums.    

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39761746

 

[@Lee]

Strange one that. Or clever. Have a little think about who that statement would appeal to

[moley]

Apart from the SNP, which UK parties are pro EU?

[Laurie61]

16 minutes ago, moley said:

Apart from the SNP, which UK parties are pro EU?

 

The Lib Dems official stance is pro EU, or it was.

[@Lee]

The Lib Dems are pro EU.

TF thinks it is necessary to challenge things within the EU, even though on the whole he believes remaining in the EU is the right thing to do, this will appeal to leave voters who want a final decision on Brexit.

[@Lee]

the strong and stable Kim-Jong May who won't do a TV debate preferring instead to go out and campaign has so far visited a factoryafter all the workers had gone home and spoke in front of a selected group of people and journalists and then yesterday she visited

Scotland. Again to a closed village hall with selected speakers and journalists. She's strong and stable so what is she afraid of?

https://thecommongreen.scot/2017/04/29/the-confidence-trick/

 

[mac11irl]

On 22/04/2017 at 11:03, Ryeman said:

In Australia, every vote counts because, apart from being mandatory to vote, you have the a preferential system rather than a potential situation of someone with 34%, in a three cornered contest, being elected.

It means that if you choose the 'party ticket' your second and third etc preference is taken into account.....or you can mark the ticket as you like.

We don't end up with a 'minority' government being elected either.

We have the same preferential system and courtesy of weak leadership on all sides and a gang of populist moronic wannabees and independent uselessness we have a minority government being propped up by a party which is one of 2 formed formed during our post independence civil war (the other being the minority leader) and its working brilliantly... other than all of the problems with every department of government..

[mac11irl]

@Lee01

Shes learning from trump...

[@Lee]

4 hours ago, Awayoffski said:

Low taxes in the USA are not helping so many in the USA in poverty.

As to German Pensioners and other, best check how poor many are, even those that worked hard all their lives.

Someone pays for the level of German Services which is why Germany or some of those in Germany are so pro EU.

 

Lets see what pressures Putin puts on Germany very soon.

Germany might just need the USA as their very special best friend, but then the US President knows how to make Germany assume the position.

My German girlfriend just said "WHAT!? WTF is he on about? What planet is he on?"

Merkel has already made Trump look a complete fool.

[Ootohere]

What is she talking about, does she say German senior citizens are all doing OK in their old age, or that the German system does not see them doing rather well in having poorer EU countries contracted to buying from Germany and paying over the odds and feed the German economy?

 

Donald Trump is going to make Germany pay quite likely for the treatment of his Grandfather.

Probably going to milk Germany hard to have the protection of NATO.

German economy booms as protectionist threat goes pop _ Reuters.mhtml

Edited 30 April, 2017 by Awayoffski

[@Lee]

She says wtf have you been reading/ smoking/ drinking

Yes, there is a problem with an ageing population which is a problem in every developed nation from Japan, to German, to right here in the UK.

Don't forget that there was this thing in Germany called 'reunification' and, guess what? They didn't HAVE a pension system so now you've got an ageing population and a country that's doubled in population, half of which had NO pension pot who are now entitled to a pension.

 

As for the comment 'EU countries contracted to buying from Germany and paying over the odds and feed the German economy? ' her response again was, WTF is he on about?

 

NATO is more than Trump. Does he think it's a good idea again this week?

[Ootohere]

How often does she say WTF to the stuff you come away with?

NATO is more than the USA you are right.  So we will see what happens soon enough in Eastern Europe.

We can see if we open our eyes what Germany does with the poorest countries in the EU and those that want in.

Soon enough Germany will have more problems with some close neighbours that are in the EU but not in the Euro Zone.

[@Lee]

**** about to hit the fan?

 

https://skwawkbox.org/2017/04/30/theresa-may-under-investigation-re-brexit-profits/

[moley]

18 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

**** about to hit the fan?

 

https://skwawkbox.org/2017/04/30/theresa-may-under-investigation-re-brexit-profits/

Did you actually believe this?

[trundlenut]

19 minutes ago, moley said:

Did you actually believe this?

It's certainly on a par with the mail and express.

[@Lee]

20 minutes ago, moley said:

Did you actually believe this?

No. Because I read it all the way to the bottom rather than just glancing it.

 

 

Quote

IF true, this could spell disaster for the Tory General Election campaign and end Mrs May’s political career.

Details are still sketchy but the situation is expected to evolve rapidly and the SKWAWKBOX will bring you more information as soon as possible.

 

That's also why I put a question mark after my post.

However. It will be picked up on by MSM if there's something behind it. And furthermore we Know for a FACT that some tories are under investigation. Why not her also?

[trundlenut]

27 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

No. Because I read it all the way to the bottom rather than just glancing it.

Paul Dacre must hate you, you're not supposed to do that!

[Ryeman]

4 hours ago, mac11irl said:

We have the same preferential system and courtesy of weak leadership on all sides and a gang of populist moronic wannabees and independent uselessness we have a minority government being propped up by a party which is one of 2 formed formed during our post independence civil war (the other being the minority leader) and its working brilliantly... other than all of the problems with every department of government..

To me, the worst part about the U.S. and U.K systems, is the need to 'get out the vote' which inevitably means winding up POTENTIAL voters to stop, via a fear campaign, rather than promote an attractive policy.

It seems that attempting to promote any policies leaves you open to even more negative campaigning.

Brexit was a classic case of assumption in the accuracy of polling with a possible/probable unintended outcome due to a 'won't bother' attitude.

Was the potential for a Brexit result that unimportant?. 

[Ryeman]

4 hours ago, Lee01 said:

 

Merkel has already made Trump look a complete fool.

 

Who hasn't?.

[Ryeman]

1 hour ago, moley said:

Did you actually believe this?

Trump voters would have.

[lol-lol]

8 hours ago, moley said:

Did you actually believe this?

 

It is only one of several investigations that it seems very opportune to hold an election to divert attention and resources away from the Cons and these include

 

1. as well as the mention above, expenses scandal with 30 Con MP facing questioning. (Our Con MP in Worcester claimed £147K expenses including a 2p pencil sharpener in addition to his £75k salary).
2. Expenses at election time breeches:- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-election-fraud-prosecutions-cps-election-campaign-result-overturn-battle-bus-a7689801.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/alexandra-runswick/election-expenses_b_16146174.html

Election fraud 2015: where are we now?

Just last month the Electoral Commission handed out the largest fine in its history - £70,000 - to the Conservatives for violating electoral law. This came after a 13-month long investigation into the party’s campaign spending during by-elections in 2014 and the general election in 2015.

 

[moley]

20 minutes ago, lol-lol said:

 

It is only one of several investigations that it seems very opportune to hold an election to divert attention and resources away from the Cons and these include

 

1. as well as the mention above, expenses scandal with 30 Con MP facing questioning. (Our Con MP in Worcester claimed £147K expenses including a 2p pencil sharpener in addition to his £75k salary).
2. Expenses at election time breeches:- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-election-fraud-prosecutions-cps-election-campaign-result-overturn-battle-bus-a7689801.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/alexandra-runswick/election-expenses_b_16146174.html

Election fraud 2015: where are we now?

Just last month the Electoral Commission handed out the largest fine in its history - £70,000 - to the Conservatives for violating electoral law. This came after a 13-month long investigation into the party’s campaign spending during by-elections in 2014 and the general election in 2015.

 

The problem is Lol-Lol what is good for the goose is good for the grander. Labour are no better and I dare to say all the other parties to a certain degree have been at it.

Labour fined £20,000 for undeclared election spending.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/25/labour-fined-20000-for-undeclared-election-spending-including-for-ed-stone

 

After the commission launched its investigation, the party undertook an internal review, unearthing 24 other undeclared election expenses totalling £109,777.

However, the commission’s investigation then identified 49 further missing payments totalling £11,357 that related to the transport of the party’s activists on the Labour Express tour and Labour Students tour during the election.

Labour’s infamous pink bus, which toured the country speaking to female voters, was also investigated by the commission, which found that all its spend was in order. The Women to Women bus had been the subject of a complaint to the commission by Conservative MP Charles Walker, after his own party came under a similar, and highly publicised, investigation into transport of election activists.

The commission also found invoices were missing from the Labour party’s return, with 33 bills totalling £34,392 absent from the accounts.

The commission said Labour’s general secretary, Iain McNicol, who is also its registered treasurer, had committed two election offences, involving missing payments of £123,748 from the campaign spending return and for failing to deliver invoices and receipts of more than £200 for payments totalling £34,392.

 

 

[Ryeman]

Americans could teach everyone about buying elections, curtesy of oil n coal billionaires.

[@Lee]

Knock knock.................

 

 

[Ootohere]

Different elections, but Braden Davy is standing for the local council elections in Forfar went door knocking and got a reaction from Arlene Tait then his buddies and supporters got ripped into this local voter on twitter who was expressing her views or opinions.

 

This is Braden Davy that worked for the Labour Party and stood against Alex Salmond in the last General Elections for Scottish Labour against the SNP then just ship from Labour to the Conservatives.

 

My mum did her usual postal vote and i asked her what she knew about the Conservative standing and all she new was what was on the leaflet through the door.

Pity her never pointed out he was a flip flopper.

Davy joined the Navy to see the sea and what did he see, he saw the light and joined the Conservatives & Unionists to try and get into any kind of seat on the gravy train even if it was just as a councillor.

Misjudged a General Election was going to be called or he might of got to stand as a Conservative Candidate for Westminster. 

 

Edited 1 May, 2017 by Awayoffski