1 minute ago, 181ce said:

I'm am actually properly offended being mentioned in the same breath as that complete and utter #anker please apologize.

At least me agree about one thing then. The guy calls himself a WARRIOR in the ring and all I see is a little child with a BIG MOUTH. Now his pockets are full of cash he should PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

All I see is a great big Fuc#ing arseho7e,your being to kind to him.

1 hour ago, 181ce said:

Again I'm going to say it.

It's not a problem it's the way the thing is designed,either

1.dont use any throttle and just use clutch and let the car do it's magic or 

2. Boot the fecking thing and thereby completely bypass the cars intervention.

 

It's called progress you know ,auto lights, self parking ,lane assist ,hill start assist,auto handbrake,hill hold etc.etc.

Why in the name of all that's holy would you do anything to encourage people to actually learn to drive ?

 

 

 

Getting back to the issue, if this is 'progress' then why isn't there any mention of this anti-stall feature in the owners manual, or why aren't the lovely people at Skoda setting people straight.."No Sir / Madam it is not a fault, it is the new anti-stall technology we a trialing across the VAG 1.5tsi's" ??? 

20 minutes ago, Gaz1985 said:

 

Getting back to the issue, if this is 'progress' then why isn't there any mention of this anti-stall feature in the owners manual, or why aren't the lovely people at Skoda setting people straight.."No Sir / Madam it is not a fault, it is the new anti-stall technology we a trialing across the VAG 1.5tsi's" ??? 

Beats me but then the entire world makes less and less sense to me as I get older,roll on retirement and simple life when I just drop out of the world.

1 minute ago, 181ce said:

Beats me but then the entire world makes less and less sense to me as I get older,roll on retirement and simple life when I just drop out of the world.

When you knock the gearlever into neutral to activate the stop/start the engine obviously dies to save fuel. However when pulling away with the car in 1st gear as the clutch is slowly released in the same way the software/elctronics seem to think the car is in neutral so try to kill the engine at the exact same time as the throttle is being applied. It feels to me as this the root cause as it only happens in 1st gear and would appear to be a strong positive correlation between the two functions. Therefore the electronics are trying to cut fuel going into the engine as you are requesting the same of it through your right foot (gas pedal), leading to the kangaroo motion as if the car has a chronic misfire.

2 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

When you knock the gearlever into neutral to activate the stop/start the engine obviously dies to save fuel. However when pulling away with the car in 1st gear as the clutch is slowly released in the same way the software/elctronics seem to think the car is in neutral so try to kill the engine at the exact same time as the throttle is being applied. It feels to me as this the root cause as it only happens in 1st gear and would appear to be a strong positive correlation between the two functions. Therefore the electronics are trying to cut fuel going into the engine as you are requesting the same of it through your right foot (gas pedal), leading to the kangaroo motion as if the car has a chronic misfire.

Turn off the stop start?

Don't try to prevent a stall yourself,let the car do it ?

You seem to miss the point maybe on purpose, that there is a Fundamental Design, Manufacturing, Material or Software Fault and it will be rectified eventually.

 

?

So has anyone yet driven a WLTP / RDE Approved Euro 6d temp 1.5 TSI manual to see how they are behaving.

2 hours ago, Offski said:

You seem to miss the point maybe on purpose, that there is a Fundamental Design, Manufacturing, Material or Software Fault and it will be rectified eventually.

 

?

So has anyone yet driven a WLTP / RDE Approved Euro 6d temp 1.5 TSI manual to see how they are behaving.

Actually I don't,I just don't think that VAG give a toss,call me cynical,BMW diesel timing chains and eating swirl flaps,Nissan Navara chassis and Conrods through blocks, spontaneously combusting insignias,DSG gearboxes etc etc are just a few things that spring to mind.

Now just to become even more unpopular

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Did people not test-drive the cars before they bought them ?

 

Lots do not, or will not,

and many hundreds or thousands will not have Test Driven any that are First Registered after 31st August with the WLTP Approval and that will include 

Principal Dealers, Sales Executives or Master Techs, as there were none as they were ordered, and still now there are some Models not in the UK or Ireland.

Nope they cunningly didn't have that version of the engine available, long lead time was the excuse.

 

I wrongly assumed it would be as good as the rest of my Skoda's over the years have been. 

2 hours ago, 181ce said:

Turn off the stop start?

Don't try to prevent a stall yourself,let the car do it ?

I switch the stop start off as soon as I start the engine so that's not it unfortunately

6 minutes ago, 181ce said:

Actually I don't,I just don't think that VAG give a toss,call me cynical,BMW diesel timing chains and eating swirl flaps,Nissan Navara chassis and Conrods through blocks, spontaneously combusting insignias,DSG gearboxes etc etc are just a few things that spring to mind.

Now just to become even more unpopular

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Did people not test-drive the cars before they bought them ?

 

None available when I ordered ours on 10th January this year. Ours was the first one registered in Leicestershire. So the simple question was NO just aleap of faith based upon many previous purchases with no such issues/problems. Easy to be cynical after the event.

Just now, Gaz1985 said:

I switch the stop start off as soon as I start the engine so that's not it unfortunately

Well there's a thing we have in common ,I hate the fecking thing

I guess I understand the leap of faith,

Undoubtedly unfortunate.

Same, I have disabled as much electronic meddling as possible to no avail sadly.... even the 'infotainment' is annoying me now  

14 minutes ago, 181ce said:

Actually I don't,I just don't think that VAG give a toss,call me cynical,BMW diesel timing chains and eating swirl flaps,Nissan Navara chassis and Conrods through blocks, spontaneously combusting insignias,DSG gearboxes etc etc are just a few things that spring to mind.

Now just to become even more unpopular

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Did people not test-drive the cars before they bought them ?

 

No! The car was ordered before one was available to test drive.

No 1.5tsi manual available when I ordered in February, only dsg which I tested. 

Didn't think it was an issue because my previous car was a 1.4tsi manual Octavia which was fine.

How many here have like me actually been told by their dealership  that there IS an issue with the 1.5 tsi manual for which a fix IS being developed?

7 minutes ago, AMC150 said:

No 1.5tsi manual available when I ordered in February, only dsg which I tested. 

Didn't think it was an issue because my previous car was a 1.4tsi manual Octavia which was fine.

How many here have like me actually been told by their dealership  that there IS an issue with the 1.5 tsi manual for which a fix IS being developed?

We had Rapid 1.2Tsi and Superb 1.4Tsi both manuals previously with no issues whatsoever.

I dunno,I still don't see it as a easy resolution Im pretty sure VAG will call it a design feature rather than a flaw, ultimately people should probably be rejecting their new cars perhaps then they (VAG) might take notice the process would surely be helped by the fact that you COULDN'T test drive the car.?

 

I test drove a 1.5tsi manual SE and didn't notice it however from what I recall I only pulled off from standing twice in a 20 minute test drive and gave it revs as pulling out into traffic at the time.

I can live with the all or nothing mini fix for now but I eagerly anticipate a fix hopefully in the not too distant future 

There is an easy resolution, 

if Skoda / VW Group can not get one they will likely be doing Buy Backs.  they need to sell Vehicles fit for purpose  and that have a life expectancy for parts / clutches.

 

The 1.2 TSI & 1.4 TSI Euro 6's had a few years of Production and are discontinued, they need to sort out any 1.5 TSI pre GPF with issues, 

or if Post GPF's then they are right in the ****e 

But then they can spin about New Hybrids and EV's and Retro Campers by 2020-2025.

We had a software update last week. 

We originally logged our complaint nearly 10 months ago, and was told there was an issue and they will be in touch.

We contacted dealer to ask about the update after following these threads. They had no record of us logging it previously, despite the car being left there over a few days! Which was not a good to hear . . 

The update seems to have stopped the over revving, but the car is still jumpy.  A bit colder this morning, and the car was noticeably more jumpy.

 

Guess i will have to get the neck brace out again this winter :-(

 

 

2 minutes ago, Salp said:

We had a software update last week. 

We originally logged our complaint nearly 10 months ago, and was told there was an issue and they will be in touch.

We contacted dealer to ask about the update after following these threads. They had no record of us logging it previously, despite the car being left there over a few days! Which was not a good to hear . . 

The update seems to have stopped the over revving, but the car is still jumpy.  A bit colder this morning, and the car was noticeably more jumpy.

 

Guess i will have to get the neck brace out again this winter :-(

 

 

No record sounds like they have something to hide for sure 

Ok guys I'm bowing out of this one least I cause more offence,the whole thing is an exercise in non coustomer care,I wish everyone the best and hopefully some sort of resolution.

4 minutes ago, 181ce said:

the whole thing is an exercise in non coustomer care,I wish everyone the best and hopefully some sort of resolution.

 

 a gentlemanly way to bow out I must say.