On 10/12/2018 at 09:51, Offski said:

@hetty1   The DSG's are automated manuals & have a accelerator & brake pedal (auto if you want), and the brake pedal is all the size it needs to be.

 

 

 

The DSG is not an automated manual gearbox. It's a proper automatic gearbox in it's own right. Although of course it has some aspects of a manual box. Trust me, I've had a couple apart. It is very different of course to a torque converter automatic gearbox. An automated manual gearbox is again quite different to a DSG or Torque Converter type of gearbox. 

On your bike. 

 

VW use the term S-A  as in Semi automatic. http://howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/skoda_fabia_monte_carlo_tsi_s-a

 

UpMiiCitigo ASG single dry clutch Automated Manual, and DSG Twin Dry Clutch or wet clutch Semi-Automatic. 

Whatever you like to call them they have no cluch pedal.

A Ford Durashift with an actuator was / is an automated manual.

 

  Nice to see that the biggest Skoda fan boy has now started admitting the engine faults and DSG issues. 

All the slagging i got from you, all the people you told to not worry Skoda would see them right.

 

Edited 13 December, 20187 yr by Offski

A fairly typical inaccurate reply form you Offski. I seem to remember it was you slagging me off and not the other way round. And I would remind you it was you that has always called me a "fan boy" just because I (and others) defended Skoda against some of your rather silly, lacking in knowledge attacks you persistently made on Skoda. I've always been aware of faults with the VW brand, as you well know.   

 

No idea why you have linked to the Fabia Monte Carlo item. Semi automatic is a term often used inaccurately by the press, media in general and 'How Many Left'. In the trade the DSG is not semi automatic. It's an automatic. A fully automatic engined car, not a robotised manual gearbox and why go on about Ford Transits and Citigo's with the robotised gearbox,  I'm not sure.  My car is a torque converter automatic. It's not the only way to make a car automatic. But it's fully automatic just like my DSG cars were. Both using different technology to make the cars fully automatic. That's very different from robotised manual automatics. I guess in reality it doesn't matter what you call them as long as you understand the technology involved and what you are getting.

 

I do have to laugh at some of your posts...but thanks for the entertainment. It's much appreciated. 

Stop arguing about semantics, they are all automatics. By virtue of the fact that you can also select gears manually, they are also all automated manuals....

 

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Coming back to the OP's original question and his main reason for asking was his experiencing some leg cramps from operating the throttle.

 ACC would take over much of the throttle control and braking  while in operation so that would be of great benefit, but ACC has to installed as part of the initial build.

 

Cruise control is far more simplistic, but it would provide foot throttle control relief and you can manually control the vehicle speed with the control rocker on the end the left hand stalk. A single dab of the rocker up or down will increment or decrease the speed by one kph, pressing it several times in quick succession and the car gradually increases/decreases the required amount. Holding the rocker in the up position and it accelerates with quite reasonable urgency until you release it and it stays at the speed when released. Holding the rocker down does not operate brakes so deceleration is much more gradual but again stays at the speed when released.

 

It means I can go quite some distance altering speed to match various limits and conditions without using the foot throttle. How lazy am I?

 

I'm sure there have been threads in the Octavia section where they have successfully retro fitted cruise? So you would think it was also possible for the Fabia.

I think one of the techs on here used to retrofit OE CC on the mk2 for around £250. Try a search.

Agree with you Gerrycan. Even cruise can be very useful. ACC even better. 

 

Hetty, I would suggest you buy the car already with the type of cruise control that you require. It's always cheaper and much easier. As Gerry and others are implying, Adaptive Cruise Control is the best you can get but it's also more expensive. So if a car with that in it is too much go for the ordinary cruise control with speed limiter. The SE models have speed limiter as standard, but the cruise control may be extra. I haven't checked the website to see what it now comes with. The SEL may be the better bet as it has more equipment. Have a look at the website. 

2 minutes ago, xman said:

I think one of the techs on here used to retrofit OE CC on the mk2 for around £250. Try a search.

 

I did it for a couple of members a few years back and it was quite expensive at the time. Others have done it too. 

On 13/12/2018 at 17:22, Estate Man said:

 

Bertj, Skoda's with manual gearboxes are very good. You only don't agree with many of us who have had considerable problems with the DSG gearboxes because you haven't had any issues yourself...yet!  I loved my Fabia Mk3 110ps DSG cars but they didn't love me. I had immediate engine problems with both of my new Mk3's and a very noisy DSG and slipping clutches on the second one. They could not be fixed by Skoda and so I rejected the first car. I received a brand new one which promptly had serious clutch issues. That car I sold on after the dealer replaced the clutches with the latest type of factory clutch. Those failed again I'm told after I sold it. Just not good enough. Fair to say that clutch failure is not totally widespread, but it's a big enough problem for JD Power to downgrade the Fabia's prevouisly good reliability record by some way due to engine and gearbox issues. This it turns out relates to the DSG gearboxes. I would have loved to have stayed with Skoda but they just don't seem to cut the mustard for me anymore. 

 

I've had my Fabia 110 DSG for over 51,000 miles and have had no problems whatsoever with the DSG.

Personally I prefer the speed limiter -- a sort of 'dead man's switch' cruise control.

Back on topic. I love my CC but it is not practical for town driving. As long as traffic is moving steadily (cruising) and you can leave a good braking distance from the car in front then there is a no more relaxing drive to be had. Over 30 years driving on the M6 (Yes, that's right, the M6) 5 days per week I developed a driving style where I would find a (large) gap between lorries on the inside lane and adjust my speed to keep pace with the lorries. Then set the CC. The lorry behind kept his pace and the lorry in front kept his pace, with me in the middle about 50 yards from either of them. We just cruised at 56 to 60 mph with no stress and I hardly touched my brakes. Other drivers would scream past and have to bang on the brakes as they came up to the cars in front. I used to smile and feel smug as I saw the frustration in front of me because here we all were on the same motorway but they were sitting on the edge of their seats, banging brakes on, while I was relaxed. Yes it would take me a bit longer to get there so I set off 5 minutes earlier. Sometimes other drivers would pull into the gap in front of me but I would accept this as 'normal' (don't get upset over something that you cannot change) and back-off to maintain a gap and then resume CC. I have been retired over 5 years now and I still use this method if I go on motorways. The method still works even on today's crowded motorways. So the bottom line is that CC is brilliant if used correctly.

Quite agree wiganken1. That's the best way to travel if one has the time. I've had to cover a lot of miles in the last 5 months (13,500 to be precise) and my CC has been invaluable. I've previously hardly used CC or ACC because it just wasn't a habit that I needed or wanted. However, all that changed when I bought the Citroen and had to spend so much time in it. I'm back to being retired once this current short term contract is over in February but I'm going to continue to use CC. 

8 hours ago, tkn said:

 

I've had my Fabia 110 DSG for over 51,000 miles and have had no problems whatsoever with the DSG.

 

I'm very glad to hear that tkn. Hopefully, you won't get any problems, most folks don't. But no longer can you say that if you buy a dsg that it will be totally reliable, as I and many others have found to our cost. It seems to be the more recent models that are giving issues though which is a puzzle. 

9 minutes ago, Estate Man said:

 

I'm very glad to hear that tkn. Hopefully, you won't get any problems, most folks don't. But no longer can you say that if you buy a dsg that it will be totally reliable, as I and many others have found to our cost. It seems to be the more recent models that are giving issues though which is a puzzle. 

 

Mine is a recent model, it's a '67 plate 1.0 TSI. 

 

I do mainly motorway miles and rural driving without commuting however, so I suspect my 51,000 miles would have been far less strenuous on the DSG than the average Fabia user.

 

I have an 80,000mile warranty but may soon change to an Octavia 2.0TDI DSG, which I understand uses a wet clutch that people say is more reliable.

 

 

Edited 8 January, 20197 yr by tkn

tkn, yes the wet clutch system is far better and is nicer to drive. I'm only aware of just one 1.0 ltr engined car with slipping clutches in the dsg. Don't know if anyone else on here has that problem with the 1.0 dsg. The guy with the problem 1.0 dsg was my near neighbour who has since rejected the car because of a host of issues with the car.

 

My bro in law has an Audi A4 estate with the 2.0ltre petrol engine and dsg wet clutch and 4 wheel drive. It's a 2018 model and it goes extremely well. He does lots of miles so likes the comfort. He did have some initial problems with the dsg gear selection but that is sorted now. I tried to persuade him to go for a Superb but he says (and this is fairly typical of non Skoda folks) that "it has no badge cred"!  I told him he was a silly sod and he could have saved around 4k on the Skoda and would have had better, and more equipment. 

CC is definitely worth having. My first Skoda a 1.9 Fabia estate had CC and I used it on a trip from Newcastle to London 10 years ago could not believe how relaxed the journey was no discomfort in right leg would not have another car without it.

The Fabia SE can have CC added at the build stage Joe

On 13/12/2018 at 00:04, RickW said:

 

It does? I have ACC.I can't find it on my facelift 2018 Fabia? Where is it?

 

On the Seats there is a separate 'mode' button under the cruise stalk which switches between ACC and limiter, just like the 'mode' button on Fabias with regular cruise/limiter.