17 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

Next season then he will match the 7 titles and beat his wins. Never thought anyone would match either record TBH.

 

It's certainly possible, but if he gets 7 that will be absolutely amazing, considering the opposition throughout his career included Alonso, Vettel, & Verstappen (honorable mentions to Button, Kimi, Nico & Massa too)

 

Who did Schumacher actually beat? Damon Hill, Hakkinen only once he was over the hill, Montoya, Kimi and that's about it.

 

F1 fans voted Driver of the Day?

 

The one on the left.

 

Oh well Lewis, that fan award will be forgotten but this race result certainly wont be. An absolute classic.

 

Hoping we actually get the few years of close competition between these two that we sadly never saw between Ayrton and Michael.

 

 

Who would have thought that Honda power would be pushing Mercedes this year and that Ferrari would still be without a win.

Just now, shyVRS245 said:

Who would have thought that Honda power would be pushing Mercedes this year and that Ferrari would still be without a win.

 

Yet Ferrari should have won at least Bahrain and Baku.

 

The Ferrari will be very fast at Spa though and Monza too, unbelievable they haven't won at home since 2010.

 

Honda's  "ignore the 3 engine limit" strategy is finally paying off after nearly 4 years. God knows how much more money they have spent than the others.

 

Trophies have never been handed out to driver of the day chosen by fans or should have won this one or that one. Simple first over the line takes the glory unless the stewards decide otherwise.

17 minutes ago, camelspyyder said:

Honda's  "ignore the 3 engine limit" strategy is finally paying off after nearly 4 years. God knows how much more money they have spent than the others.

Read somewhere that previously Honda had to design their turbo engine to fit in the limited chassis of the manufacturers ,but with red bull they built their chassis’s around the Honda engine and it appears to have given RB better power and reliability so far this season ,so quite a rapid improvement so far,perhaps Danny ric  should not have moved.

Mclaren are used to being the works team and having engines custom made to their requirements. It always worked well before with Porsche, Honda and Mercedes supplying the motors but this time Honda just couldn't get to grips with it.

 

I think RBR-Honda's publicity machine is quite immature, they still constantly snipe at previous partners Renault and Mclaren when there's absolutely no need - rubbing their noses in it on track should be quite enough.

Added to which it's enormously disrespectful, RBR can't deny that they won 8 titles with Renault, and Honda won 8 titles with Mclaren. To compare to those records so far RBR-Honda have won diddly-squat.

 

Dans crystal ball clearly didn't see the crummy Honda becoming competitive. 

Mind you if Red Bull had made more effort to keep him and make him feel valued, they could be in with a shout of the constructors title this year the way things are going. Pierre is totally wasting his opportunity.

 

The pay cheques at Renault will be some large compensation, I guess.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 5 August, 20196 yr by camelspyyder

12 hours ago, shyVRS245 said:

Trophies have never been handed out to driver of the day chosen by fans or should have won this one or that one. Simple first over the line takes the glory unless the stewards decide otherwise.

 

Unless it's the Joke FE series where the fans can make your car faster

 

Some serious navel-gazing at Ferrari over the summer break. They will undoubtedly be fast at Spa and Monza but those tracks will mask the limitations of the current chassis. When the circus gets back to more chassis orientated tracks they will once again be battling for 3rd. Great to see Max maturing into a more all-round competitor; next year could be amazing, before major rule changes once again throw in a curve ball.

Mclaren have now partnered a proper experienced race-winning Indycar team (Schmidt-Peterson Motorsport) to run to Chevy powered cars all through next season.

 

Current drivers are Honda-affiliated so it looks like there will be 2 vacancies plus the option to run an extra car at Indy for Alonso.

Is Toto still Bottas' manager ?

 

was thinking I had heard that, so was wondering about it in all these talks of whether he would still have a seat in Mercedes next year

51 minutes ago, Wet Kipper said:

Is Toto still Bottas' manager ?

 

 

Almost certain he isn't any more, think he dropped him before hiring him at Merc

18 minutes ago, nige8021 said:

 

Almost certain he isn't any more, think he dropped him before hiring him at Merc

Correct Bottas now managed jointly by Mika Hakkinen and Didier Coton.

Wolff has been an uncommonly moral member of the F1 community. Selling his interests in one team when taking over another. Not managing drivers that he also employs. Couldn't imagine Flavio, Bernie, or Vijay behaving so well.

 

OK I admit Toto did employ his wife as the least qualified or deserving F1 test driver in history, but it's the exception that proves the rule right?

54 minutes ago, camelspyyder said:

Wolff has been an uncommonly moral member of the F1 community. Selling his interests in one team when taking over another. Not managing drivers that he also employs. Couldn't imagine Flavio, Bernie, or Vijay behaving so well.

 

OK I admit Toto did employ his wife as the least qualified or deserving F1 test driver in history, but it's the exception that proves the rule right?

Just shows she wears the trousers in their marriage.

On 09/08/2019 at 19:29, shyVRS245 said:

Just shows she wears the trousers in their marriage.

#AngryToto.

1 hour ago, shyVRS245 said:

Just shows she wears the trousers in their marriage.

 

I just checked her racing record. 

 

Karting Formula A: 15th in the World Championship - pretty good

Formula Renault UK: 4 podiums in 3 seasons - well, not great

DTM: 2x 7th and 1x 9th place race finishes in 7 seasons. 4 points in 7 years. Is that it?

So the DTM needed token birds back then? One Merc (Stoddart/Wolff)  and One Audi were driven by ladies.

But Vaninna Ickx, Katherine Legge and Rahel Frey only managed 1 7th in all those years between them for Audi.

 

Anyway, how on earth did that record translate into a 4 year tenure as the Williams F1 test driver.

No F3 GP3 GP2 race wins or championships. In fact no wins since karting. No results of any note at all.

I remember Toto at the time saying he had nothing to do with the decision but really?

On 09/08/2019 at 21:02, camelspyyder said:

One Merc (Stoddart/Wolff) 

One 2 year old Merc...

1 hour ago, KenONeill said:

One 2 year old Merc...

3 out of the 7 years she had a one year old Merc...and scored precisely zero points with it.

 

We've done this subject before and I understand your national pride may be getting insulted a bit.

 

Whilst I know Scotland has produced in Clark and Stewart 2 of the absolute greatest ever, Mrs Wolff never did anything worthy of an F1 drive at all IMO.

 

F1 teams just don't normally hire drivers without a single race win to their credit, much less those that have not driven open wheelers for near on a decade.

 

Unless they're married to, or son of, a major shareholder clearly.

On 09/08/2019 at 22:47, camelspyyder said:

3 out of the 7 years she had a one year old Merc...and scored precisely zero points with it

True, with the note that she was probably the division winner for the 1 or 2 (as applicable) year old car class most years.

9 hours ago, camelspyyder said:

 

I just checked her racing record. 

 

Karting Formula A: 15th in the World Championship - pretty good

Formula Renault UK: 4 podiums in 3 seasons - well, not great

DTM: 2x 7th and 1x 9th place race finishes in 7 seasons. 4 points in 7 years. Is that it?

So the DTM needed token birds back then? One Merc (Stoddart/Wolff)  and One Audi were driven by ladies.

But Vaninna Ickx, Katherine Legge and Rahel Frey only managed 1 7th in all those years between them for Audi.

 

Anyway, how on earth did that record translate into a 4 year tenure as the Williams F1 test driver.

No F3 GP3 GP2 race wins or championships. In fact no wins since karting. No results of any note at all.

I remember Toto at the time saying he had nothing to do with the decision but really?

Like I said Toto knows who the BOSS is.

With no F1 for weeks, I've started viewing some of the reputed great races on Youtube. 1971 Italian GP is as crazily competitive as it has always been reported. Watching the1969 British next.  Any recommendations?

3 minutes ago, camelspyyder said:

With no F1 for weeks, I've started viewing some of the reputed great races on Youtube. 1971 Italian GP is as crazily competitive as it has always been reported. Watching the1969 British next.  Any recommendations?

European GP Donington April 1983 very wet and Senna amazing overtaking on the first lap. Prost pitting so many times (because he didn't like the rain) I lost count. Wet race always fun.

10 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

European GP Donington April 1983 very wet and Senna amazing overtaking on the first lap. Prost pitting so many times (because he didn't like the rain) I lost count. Wet race always fun.

Yeah I remember it. Senna and a couple of others (Barrichello?) making everyone else look awful. This year's German GP similar but now they nearly all stay on track.

On 10/08/2019 at 09:59, camelspyyder said:

Any recommendations?

The last 5 laps of the 1979 French GP.