Just now, KenONeill said:

The last 5 laps of the 1979 French GP.

Was that the won with Gilles constantly overtaking and being passed?

2 minutes ago, shyVRS245 said:

Was that the won with Gilles constantly overtaking and being passed?

And everybody forgot who won...

 

J-PJ in fact.

Indeed; Rene Arnoux' Renault had a fuel pick-up problem and Gilles Villeneuve's Ferrari had rooted tyres.

 

Excerpt - Arnoux passed on the main straight, and most people thought he'd drive off into the distance. Gilles disagreed and braked late, impossibly late, with all 4 wheels locked. This launched 5 laps of hard but fair racing, where on more than one occasion the Renault was off the track on one side, and the Ferrari off on the other.

 

Literally, after he won, J-P J wondered why no-one had noticed!

Renault 1.5 litre turbos on qualifying Saturday at Brands Hatch - the heat haze coming off them was immense and they were so obviously right on the ragged edge. It still makes the hairs on the back of my neck tingle...

Monaco 96. Wet, hectic, maybe the last time a backmarker won a race.

Monaco 82. Mental, leader spun and stalled about 8 laps from the end. At least 3 other cars led afterwards but the spinner came back to win.

23 hours ago, camelspyyder said:

Monaco 96. Wet, hectic, maybe the last time a backmarker won a race.

Panis, wasnt it? Iirc there was only i think 7-10cars left in it by the end

 

1989 Japanese GP - Yes, the one when Senna and Prost collided at the chicane. Tense rather than thrilling but I remember watching it live and being on the edge of my seat; knowing the result somewhat spoils it!

 

1985 is generally accepted as an exciting season; of the bunch I would pick the Dutch GP - Lauda's last GP win. Incidentally, at the French GP that year, the fastest turbo car was clocked at 210mph; the fastest NA car at 172mph (fact courtesy of Wikipedia); no wonder DRS was not required back then!

 

A qualifying highlight would be Keke Rosberg's 1985 pole lap at Silverstone.

Or Jerez 1997 when the top 3 in qualifying all recorded the exact same time. Again, knowing the result is a rather large spoiler.

Hungaroring 1989 - Mansell's greatest race?

On 11/08/2019 at 20:50, tweenster said:

A qualifying highlight would be Keke Rosberg's 1985 pole lap at Silverstone.

...with the World's fastest ever slow puncture! (at 160.9 mph average)

25 minutes ago, tweenster said:

Hungaroring 1989 - Mansell's greatest race?

 

I'd vote for Silverstone '87.

45 minutes ago, tweenster said:

Or Jerez 1997 when the top 3 in qualifying all recorded the exact same time. Again, knowing the result is a rather large spoiler.

 

If that wasn't enough a strange enough occurrence, the fact that none of the 3 won the race is seriously weird.

 

55 minutes ago, tweenster said:

1985 is generally accepted as an exciting season; of the bunch I would pick the Dutch GP - Lauda's last GP win. Incidentally, at the French GP that year, the fastest turbo car was clocked at 210mph; the fastest NA car at 172mph (fact courtesy of Wikipedia); no wonder DRS was not required back then!

 

Wasn't 1985 notable for turning the races into economy runs - many drivers ran out of fuel I seem to recall. That played right into the wily Lauda's hands.

 

Edited 11 August, 20196 yr by camelspyyder

11 minutes ago, camelspyyder said:

 

I'd vote for Silverstone '87.

 

Not dissimilar to the recent Hamilton win in Hungary; late race tyre change followed by hunting down the leader and a fantastic overtake. Selling the dummy to Piquet (a triple World Champion so no slouch) was immense! Again, I watched it live and it was edge of the seat stuff, helped HUGELY by it being Mansell at Silverstone, the beginning of Mansellmania.

11 minutes ago, camelspyyder said:

 

If that wasn't enough a strange enough occurrence, the fact that none of the 3 won the race is seriously weird.

 

 

Interesting story (can't remember where I read it though, might be Frank Williams autobiography) is that Villeneuve's car was placed in the Williams museum with Schumacher's tyre marks still on the car. A new cleaner carefully polished the tyre marks off the car and, as the author recalled, immediately wiped a million pounds off the value of the car!

14 minutes ago, camelspyyder said:

 

Wasn't 1985 notable for turning the races into economy runs - many drivers ran out of fuel I seem to recall. 

This was the original 1000bhp Grand Prix car era, with outputs reaching some 1150bhp in qualifying (from just 1500cc!!!). There was a fuel limit in race trim that severely restricted power output that did result in cars running out of fuel when the team got the sums wrong. Only added to the intrigue...

I think BMW had 1400 in qually, and Honda just didn't know. The tale goes that their dyno only went up to 1000bhp and it passed that at about only 9000rpm.

 

Honda also got round the pop off valve rules limiting the boost to 4 bar then 2.5 the next year by putting so much boost into the engine the pop off valve couldn't effectively dump it all.

 

 

Edited 11 August, 20196 yr by camelspyyder

34 minutes ago, camelspyyder said:

I think BMW had 1400 in qually, and Honda just didn't know. The tale goes that their dyno only went up to 1000bhp and it passed that at about only 9000rpm.

 

Honda also got round the pop off valve rules limiting the boost to 4 bar then 2.5 the next year by putting so much boost into the engine the pop off valve couldn't effectively dump it all.

 

 

And we haven't yet mentioned BMW's 'special' fuel' that won Piquet the title in 1981. Haz suits being the order of the day with the incredibly toxic but exceptionally potent toluene based fuel. F1 today has nothing on the bad old days!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/49317809  No big supprise there 

Finally. I think its been about 9 months since I first posted doubts about PG on here.

On 19/01/2019 at 16:44, camelspyyder said:

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/141084/gasly-wont-be-econd-driver-at-red-bull

 

Gasly insists he wont be #2 driver at RBR.

 

Hmmm...?

 

Against Max?

 

Will he last the season more like?

 

 

 

 

Change my name to Mystic Meg.

 

5 minutes ago, nige8021 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/49317809  No big supprise there 

Good decision in my book. Being lapped in the last race by your team mate wasn't very impressive.

Just now, camelspyyder said:

 

Change my name to Mystic Meg.

 

OK Meg thanks for the heads up.

Tough gig for Albon though, but they already know everything about Kvyat so why not give the lad a try. Really can't be worse than Pierre.

 

Gasly must have known it was coming, RBR just dumped Dan Ticktum as well, and he was their rising star less than a year ago.

 

Both had the same "entitled" attitude as Ocon, only without the talent it seems.

 

 

 

 

Edited 12 August, 20196 yr by camelspyyder

Talking about under achieving RedBull guys, Johan Zarco is being dumped by RedBull KTM in Moto GP as well.