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Find my posts, there are Ebach Pro springs without lowering.

 

Driving has been improved a lot also after replace just front axle,

annoying waterbed is gone!

by my subjective opinion, the most, 65% of performance, came from stiffer Eibach Pro springs

but in case i would like avoid lowering i installed Eibach Pro springs

from Audi Q2 on front axle and Eibach Pro AWD springs on my FWD car

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8 minutes ago, MartiniB said:

@QubiDK

Find my posts, there are Ebach Pro springs without lowering.

 

Driving has been improved a lot also after replace just front axle,

annoying waterbed is gone!

by my subjective opinion, the most, 65% of performance, came from stiffer Eibach Pro springs

but in case i would like avoid lowering i installed Eibach Pro springs

from Audi Q2 on front axle and Eibach Pro AWD springs on my FWD car

I read your post too;) but I still don't get it;) 

Plus I have an estate, so I wouldn't compare to yours either...

 

On autodoc there are 3 sets from eibach. On the eibach homepage, all of them said 30mm lowering... what's the difference between them;)

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By default Ebach and H&R ofers only lowering sets 😞

that which i found were guesed by compare different wights

Audi Q2 1.5 has same Eibach springs as Superb 2.0

and i chose from Audi Q2 2.0, what gave stiffnes whitout lowernig.

for front axle this will be good, but for rear axle you have to make your own calculation and guess.

 

with AWDs rear springs on my FWD Supereb i'm not satisfied for 100%

ride condition is perfect, but it is lower for 12mm than OEM DCC springs, whic were lower 10mm than standart suspension

15 hours ago, QubiDK said:

Hi guys

 

I want to change shock absorbers and springs on mine. I passed 6 years of age and 280.xxxkm and still have the originals on as I know (I got the car when it was 3 years old).

 

I will install Koni Actives.

 

I asked some others if the original springs needed to be changed or not? (No damages or corrosion) but I guess I will anyway...

 

I checked autodoc, eibach homepage and tried to search but as I can see almost all the pro kits will lower the car, I would like to avoid that... Anyone who is already went through the process and could helpe out to chose the right ones? No DCC in mine...

 

Thanks in advance 

 

 

If you check your car's build codes, you can find out what the standard springs are.

 

For the Superb MK3 2.0TDI 190HP FWD estate, these might be (according to the Kilen/Lesjofors spring catalogues):

 

5Q0411105GM Front coil spring L07
1 blue dot, 1 grey dot

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5q0411105gm?search=OEN+5Q0411105GM&supplier[0]=112&supplier[1]=246&supplier[2]=32&supplier[3]=253&supplier[4]=112&supplier[5]=246&supplier[6]=32&supplier[7]=253

 

3Q0511115AK Rear coil spring 1JA+0YC

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/3q0511115ak?search=OEN+3Q0511115AK&supplier[0]=32&supplier[1]=112&supplier[2]=253&supplier[3]=246

 

Edited by Carlston

I take the opportunity to see if someone has a 190 TDI 4x4 kombi (2016) with standard damping and can give me the part number of the springs, since I have the ppd suspension and it goes very high and bouncy.  To install standard springs and Koni SA or Sachs.  My wife and baby vomit on long road trips in Spain.  Thanks in advance.

On 20/7/2022 at 22:08, QubiDK said:

Hola chicos

 

Quiero cambiar amortiguadores y resortes en el mio. Pasé 6 años de edad y 280.xxxkm y todavía tengo los originales puestos como sé (el auto lo recibí cuando tenía 3 años).

 

Instalaré Koni Actives.

 

Le pregunté a otros si era necesario cambiar los resortes originales o no. (Sin daños ni corrosión) pero supongo que lo haré de todos modos...

 

Revisé autodoc, la página de inicio de eibach e intenté buscar, pero como puedo ver, casi todos los kits profesionales bajarán el automóvil, me gustaría evitar eso ... Cualquiera que ya haya pasado por el proceso y pueda ayudar a elegir el correcto. ¿unos? No hay DCC en el mío...

 

Gracias por adelantado 

 

I will be waiting for your assessment of the Koni and standard springs

On 25/07/2022 at 23:07, Gabrielem said:

I take the opportunity to see if someone has a 190 TDI 4x4 kombi (2016) with standard damping and can give me the part number of the springs, since I have the ppd suspension and it goes very high and bouncy.  To install standard springs and Koni SA or Sachs.  My wife and baby vomit on long road trips in Spain.  Thanks in advance.

 

Skoda Superb MK3 2.0TDI 190PS 4x4 Kombi

 

Standard ride height front springs 5Q0411105GN

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5q0411105gn?search=OEN+5Q0411105GN&supplier[0]=85&supplier[1]=246&supplier[2]=253&supplier[3]=16&supplier[4]=32&supplier[5]=85&supplier[6]=246&supplier[7]=253&supplier[8]=16

 

Standard ride height rear springs 3Q0511115M

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/3q0511115m?search=OEN+3Q0511115M&supplier[0]=16&supplier[1]=253&supplier[2]=85&supplier[3]=246&supplier[4]=32&supplier[5]=16&supplier[6]=253&supplier[7]=85&supplier[8]=246

 

Bilstein B4 22-232342 front shock absorbers

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/bilstein/9266741

 

Bilstein B4 19-232362 rear shock absorbers

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/bilstein/9129438

 

With the increased ride height suspension, you probably have 90mm front bump stops. Change these to 70mm front bump stops when using standard ride height springs, ie. OEM part number 1K0412303B.

 

The bellows have OEM part number 5Q0413175C whatever the ride height.

 

Front bump stop 70mm 1K0412303B

Bellow for front shock absorber 5Q0413175C

 

Skoda parts catalogue

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/4/411/411000

TEDGUM TED58322 Dust Cover Kit, shock absorber (order 2 kits as this kit only includes 1 front bump stop and 1 bellow)

TED58322 TEDGUM Front axle both sides Height: 70mm Dust Cover Kit, shock absorber TED58322 cheap

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/tedgum/16711473

 

Rear shock absorber parts 5Q0513425J 5Q0511357H

10 5Q0513425J protective pipe 2

11 5Q0511357H Stop buffer 127mm 2 PR-1JA,UC7

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/5/511/511005

 

Edited by Carlston

Hace 3 horas, Carlston dijo:

 

Skoda Superb MK3 2.0TDI 190PS 4x4 Kombi

 

Resortes delanteros de altura de manejo estándar 5Q0411105GN

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5q0411105gn?search=OEN+5Q0411105GN&supplier[0]=85&supplier[1]=246&supplier[2]=253&supplier[3]=16&supplier[4]=32&supplier [5]=85&proveedor[6]=246&proveedor[7]=253&proveedor[8]=16

 

Resortes traseros de altura de manejo estándar 3Q0511115M

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/3q0511115m?search=OEN+3Q0511115M&supplier[0]=16&supplier[1]=253&supplier[2]=85&supplier[3]=246&supplier[4]=32&supplier [5]=16&proveedor[6]=253&proveedor[7]=85&proveedor[8]=246

 

Amortiguadores delanteros Bilstein B4 22-232342

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/bilstein/9266741

 

Amortiguadores traseros Bilstein B4 19-232362

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/bilstein/9129438

 

Con la suspensión de mayor altura de manejo, probablemente tenga topes delanteros de 90 mm. Cámbielos a topes delanteros de 70 mm cuando use resortes de altura de manejo estándar, es decir. Número de pieza OEM 1K0412303B.

 

Los fuelles tienen el número de pieza OEM 5Q0413175C cualquiera que sea la altura de manejo.

 

Tope de tope delantero 70 mm 1K0412303B

Fuelle para amortiguador delantero 5Q0413175C

 

Catalogo de repuestos Skoda

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/4/411/411000

TEDGUM TED58322 Juego de guardapolvos, amortiguador  (pida 2 juegos ya que este juego solo incluye 1 tope delantero y 1 fuelle)

TED58322 TEDGUM Eje delantero ambos lados Altura: 70mm Kit guardapolvo, amortiguador TED58322 barato

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/tedgum/16711473

 

Amortiguadores traseros 5Q0513425J 5Q0511357H

10 5Q0513425J protector tubo 2

11 5Q0511357H Amortiguador de tope 127 mm 2 PR-1JA,UC7

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/5/511/511005

 

¡¡Muchas gracias!!

 

Among the different types of springs, I guess it doesn't matter which one to choose, right?

 

Edited by Gabrielem

11 hours ago, Gabrielem said:

I guess it doesn't matter which one to choose, right?

 

if care about driving conditions, i can say only one -

standard springs are too soft, but lowering sets from Eibach / H&R are too short

even when install rear Eibach's AWD springs on rear axle of FWD car i would prefer 20mm higher rear

-> https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/485647-bilstein-b6-dcc-shock-absorbers-available-at-last/?do=findComment&comment=5620484

 

front springs i "guessed" by first attempt, Eibach Pro from Audi Q2

 

 

empty car:

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with four passengers, without pilot:

1402287797_220717_Eibach_Pro_frontrear_4passengers_ED.thumb.jpg.51d8a934683c928e347404c21b18d3cc.jpg

 

standard springs after 4 years:

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15 hours ago, Gabrielem said:

Among the different types of springs, I guess it doesn't matter which one to choose, right?

 

You need a good brand of spring and just as importantly you need the springs to match the OEM part numbers that you want.

 

If you purchase the wrong springs, you could end up with the wrong ride height, the wrong spring stiffness, and springs that break early.

 

Front springs matching OEM part number 5Q0411105GN

KYB RA1491

Kilen 25123

Lesjofors 4095137

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5q0411105gn?search=OEN+5Q0411105GN&supplier[0]=85&supplier[1]=246&supplier[2]=253

 

Rear springs matching OEM part number 3Q0511115M

KYB RA5337

Kilen 65126

Lesjofors 4295136

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/3q0511115m?search=OEN+3Q0511115M&supplier[0]=253&supplier[1]=85&supplier[2]=246

 

On ebay, KYB RA1491 front springs are listed for £31.48 (about 37.57 Euros) each, and KYB RA5337 rear springs are listed for £27.28 (about 32.56 Euros) each. (Prices correct at time of writing.)

 

KYB RA1491 front springs

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234637754942?hash=item36a180023e%3Ag%3AZ2AAAOSwz75i4OAT&LH_ItemCondition=3

 

KYB RA5337 rear springs

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334456585913?hash=item4ddf2a7eb9%3Ag%3AQiYAAOSw5zBiknG~&LH_ItemCondition=3

 

KYB, Kilen, and Lesjofors are all top quality brands.

 

Kilen and Lesjofors are the same springs made in the same factory in Sweden. They are just sold under different brands names, so that the manufacturer can increase their market share, ie. sell more springs. So if you want one of these brands, then purchase the cheapest. In the UK, Kilen tends to be cheaper than Lesjofors, but in many European countries Lesjofors might be cheaper than Kilen.

 

Edited by Carlston

33 minutes ago, Carlston said:

 

You need a good brand of spring and just as importantly you need the springs to match the OEM part numbers that you want.

 

If you purchase the wrong springs, you could end up with the wrong ride height, the wrong spring stiffness, and springs that break early.

 

Front springs matching OEM part number 5Q0411105GN

KYB RA1491

Kilen 25123

Lesjofors 4095137

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5q0411105gn?search=OEN+5Q0411105GN&supplier[0]=85&supplier[1]=246&supplier[2]=253

 

Rear springs matching OEM part number 3Q0511115M

KYB RA5337

Kilen 65126

Lesjofors 4295136

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/3q0511115m?search=OEN+3Q0511115M&supplier[0]=253&supplier[1]=85&supplier[2]=246

 

On ebay, KYB RA1491 front springs are listed for £31.48 (about 37.57 Euros) each, and KYB RA5337 rear springs are listed for £27.28 (about 32.56 Euros) each. (Prices correct at time of writing.)

 

KYB RA1491 front springs

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234637754942?hash=item36a180023e%3Ag%3AZ2AAAOSwz75i4OAT&LH_ItemCondition=3

 

KYB RA5337 rear springs

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334456585913?hash=item4ddf2a7eb9%3Ag%3AQiYAAOSw5zBiknG~&LH_ItemCondition=3

 

KYB, Kilen, and Lesjofors are all top quality brands.

 

Kilen and Lesjofors are the same springs made in the same factory in Sweden. They are just sold under different brands names, so that the manufacturer can increase their market share, ie. sell more springs. So if you want one of these brands, then purchase the cheapest. In the UK, Kilen tends to be cheaper than Lesjofors, but in many European countries Lesjofors might be cheaper than Kilen.

 

And what opposition do you have to the Eibach ERL? And finally, in terms of shock absorbers, which one do you think are better?

 

I don't know how to thank you for the information you are giving me. Thank you very very much.

1 hour ago, Gabrielem said:

And what opposition do you have to the Eibach ERL? And finally, in terms of shock absorbers, which one do you think are better?

 

I don't know how to thank you for the information you are giving me. Thank you very very much.

 

With aftermarket springs, early spring breakage is a big problem. Hence why I suggest brands like the South Korean KYB and the Swedish Kilen/Lesjofors. I suspect many of the German (and other countries) brands have been outsourcing to China and selling sub-standard springs that break early. Hence why I would choose KYB, Kilen/Lesjofors over even Eibach ERL (Eibach Replacement Line). You may get lucky with Eibach, and I might risk it if KYB and Kilen/Lesjofors didn't make a suitable match.

 

One problem with Eibach R19441 front springs is that it is being sold to replace more than one OEM part number. This means that it may not be a close match to the OEM part number that you want, ie. 5Q0411105GN. However, I've checked the listed specification that Eibach gives for this spring, ie. Eibach R19441, and it does appear to be similar to KYB RA1491. So if you want to add the Eibach R19441 front springs and Eibach R21093 rear springs to your shortlist, I think that it's reasonably safe to do so. On autodoc these two Eibach springs seem like a good price, especially on Mondays when they have their 30% discount day. In case you didn't know, autodoc tend to vary their discount for each day of the week...and Mondays seems to be their biggest discount day. I guess this is because many people will purchase over the weekend, and by Monday they have already made their purchase. Hence Monday is autodoc's biggest discount day, where sales are perhaps the slowest.

 

However, the KYB springs are a similar price so I would choose them over Eibach. The main reason being that I would feel a little more confident that the KYB springs wouldn't break early. I know someone who has fitted KYB springs over many years to about 10 different cars, and done a lot of mileage...with zero breakages. In my book, that's 10/10

 for reliability with the KYB springs. I doubt you would have trouble with Kilen/Lesjofors either, as they are made in Sweden from Swedish steel, in the most modern European factory, and Kilen/Lesjofors are the biggest European aftermarket spring manufacturer.

 

Eibach R19441 front springs (Eibach are selling this spring to replace three different OEM part numbers as listed below, so may not be an exact match)

5Q0411105ES

5Q0411105GN

5Q0411105HQ

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/eibach/17876015

 

Eibach R21093 rear springs (Eibach are selling this spring to replace just one OEM part number as listed below, so should be an exact match)

3Q0511115M

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/eibach/18112500

 

Edited by Carlston

33 minutes ago, Carlston said:

 

Con los resortes del mercado de accesorios, la rotura prematura de primavera es un gran problema. Por eso sugiero marcas como la surcoreana KYB y la sueca Kilen/Lesjofors. Sospecho que muchas de las marcas alemanas (y de otros países) han subcontratado a China y han vendido resortes de calidad inferior que se rompen antes de tiempo. Por eso elegiría KYB, Kilen/Lesjofors incluso sobre Eibach ERL (Eibach Replacement Line). Puede que tengas suerte con Eibach, y podría arriesgarme si KYB y Kilen/Lesjofors no hicieran una pareja adecuada.

 

Un problema con los resortes delanteros Eibach R19441 es que se vende para reemplazar más de un número de pieza OEM. Esto significa que es posible que no coincida con el número de pieza OEM que desea, es decir. 5Q0411105GN. Sin embargo, he comprobado la especificación enumerada que da Eibach para esta primavera, es decir. Eibach R19441, y parece ser similar a KYB RA1491. Entonces, si desea agregar los resortes delanteros Eibach R19441 y los resortes traseros Eibach R21093 a su lista, creo que es razonablemente seguro hacerlo. En autodoc estos dos muelles de Eibach parecen buen precio, sobre todo los lunes que tienen su día de descuento del 30%. En caso de que no lo supiera, autodoc tiende a variar su descuento para cada día de la semana... y los lunes parece ser su día de mayor descuento. Supongo que esto se debe a que muchas personas comprarán durante el fin de semana, y para el lunes ya han hecho su compra. Por lo tanto, el lunes es el día de mayor descuento de autodoc, donde las ventas son quizás las más lentas.

 

Sin embargo, los resortes KYB tienen un precio similar, por lo que los elegiría sobre Eibach. La razón principal es que me sentiría un poco más seguro de que los resortes KYB no se romperían antes de tiempo. Conozco a alguien que ha colocado resortes KYB durante muchos años en unos 10 autos diferentes y ha hecho mucho kilometraje... sin roturas. En mi libro, eso es 10/10

 para la confiabilidad con los resortes KYB. Dudo que tenga problemas con Kilen/Lesjofors, ya que se fabrican en Suecia con acero sueco, en la fábrica europea más moderna, y Kilen/Lesjofors son el mayor fabricante europeo de resortes del mercado de accesorios.

 

Resortes delanteros Eibach R19441 (Eibach está vendiendo este resorte para reemplazar tres números de pieza OEM diferentes que se enumeran a continuación, por lo que puede no ser una coincidencia exacta)

5Q0411105ES

5Q0411105GN

5Q0411105HQ

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/eibach/17876015

 

Resortes traseros Eibach R21093 (Eibach está vendiendo este resorte para reemplazar solo un número de pieza OEM como se indica a continuación, por lo que debería ser una coincidencia exacta)

3Q0511115M

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/eibach/18112500

 

And finally, what shock absorbers do you recommend for a firmer ride?  I stay with your recommendation of Lesfojors for springs.

6 hours ago, MartiniB said:

 

Si me preocupan las condiciones de manejo, solo puedo decir una:

los resortes estándar son demasiado blandos, pero los juegos de descenso de Eibach / H&R son demasiado cortos

incluso cuando instale los resortes AWD traseros de Eibach en el eje trasero del automóvil FWD, preferiría una parte trasera 20 mm más alta

-https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/485647-bilstein-b6-dcc-shock-absorbers-disponible-al-final/?do=findComment&comment=5620484 _

 

resortes delanteros que "supuse" al primer intento, Eibach Pro de Audi Q2

 

 

coche vacio:

643341971_20220711_01_Eibach_Pro_frontrear_ED.thumb.jpg.b7cffa3f33407550183c8da00109dc7b.jpg

 

con cuatro pasajeros, sin piloto:

1402287797_220717_Eibach_Pro_frontrear_4passengers_ED.thumb.jpg.51d8a934683c928e347404c21b18d3cc.jpg

 

resortes estándar después de 4 años:

200604_SS3_mans_DCC_ED.thumb.jpg.986b92b4c5083fa0b19d0046def3e1fe.jpg

 

I think Installing the lesjofors springs, anything better than PPD.

1 hour ago, Gabrielem said:

And finally, what shock absorbers do you recommend for a firmer ride?  I stay with your recommendation of Lesfojors for springs.

 

I normally use Bilstein B4 shock absorbers, and they are sometimes fitted as OEM equipment on cars. You might want to check the model number with Bilstein directly, or one of the big suppliers. Although I expect autodoc has got it correct.

 

The below Bilstein shock absorbers are not electronic shock absorbers. So if your car has DampTronic, you will need much more expensive shock absorbers costing many times the price. 

 

Bilstein B4 22-232342 front shock absorbers

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/bilstein/9266741

 

Bilstein B4 19-232362 rear shock absorbers

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/bilstein/9129438

 

Edited by Carlston

17 hours ago, Gabrielem said:

I think Installing the lesjofors springs, anything better than PPD.

PPD isn't derivable at all, i have read couple of reports

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i felt standard DCC springs also too soft, on speeds 120kmh+ car were dancing away from the road if mode were left in `Comfort`

then i searched for stiffer, click on link i posted above,

there are part codes and way how to find stiffness without lowering(huge lowering)

 

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5 hours ago, MartiniB said:

PPD no es derivable en absoluto, he leído un par de informes

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Sentí que los resortes DCC estándar también eran demasiado suaves, a velocidades de más de 120 kmh, el automóvil se alejaba de la carretera si el modo se dejaba en "Confort".

luego busqué más rígido, haga clic en el enlace que publiqué arriba,

hay códigos de pieza y una forma de encontrar rigidez sin bajar (bajada enorme)

 

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you mean using lesjofors springs and other non ZF shock absorbers won't make the car lower and firmer than with the ppd's that are installed now?

17 hours ago, Gabrielem said:

won't make the car lower and firmer

just first of two problems will be solved

 

driving over speed bumps with sportline wagon is like driving the US cars from 60s :)  floating boat... and when you hit the pothole, the first time I went out and checked if the tire is still on ... 🤬

On 02/08/2022 at 15:00, Carlston said:

 

With aftermarket springs, early spring breakage is a big problem. Hence why I suggest brands like the South Korean KYB and the Swedish Kilen/Lesjofors. I suspect many of the German (and other countries) brands have been outsourcing to China and selling sub-standard springs that break early. Hence why I would choose KYB, Kilen/Lesjofors over even Eibach ERL (Eibach Replacement Line). You may get lucky with Eibach, and I might risk it if KYB and Kilen/Lesjofors didn't make a suitable match.

 

One problem with Eibach R19441 front springs is that it is being sold to replace more than one OEM part number. This means that it may not be a close match to the OEM part number that you want, ie. 5Q0411105GN. However, I've checked the listed specification that Eibach gives for this spring, ie. Eibach R19441, and it does appear to be similar to KYB RA1491. So if you want to add the Eibach R19441 front springs and Eibach R21093 rear springs to your shortlist, I think that it's reasonably safe to do so. On autodoc these two Eibach springs seem like a good price, especially on Mondays when they have their 30% discount day. In case you didn't know, autodoc tend to vary their discount for each day of the week...and Mondays seems to be their biggest discount day. I guess this is because many people will purchase over the weekend, and by Monday they have already made their purchase. Hence Monday is autodoc's biggest discount day, where sales are perhaps the slowest.

 

However, the KYB springs are a similar price so I would choose them over Eibach. The main reason being that I would feel a little more confident that the KYB springs wouldn't break early. I know someone who has fitted KYB springs over many years to about 10 different cars, and done a lot of mileage...with zero breakages. In my book, that's 10/10

 for reliability with the KYB springs. I doubt you would have trouble with Kilen/Lesjofors either, as they are made in Sweden from Swedish steel, in the most modern European factory, and Kilen/Lesjofors are the biggest European aftermarket spring manufacturer.

 

Eibach R19441 front springs (Eibach are selling this spring to replace three different OEM part numbers as listed below, so may not be an exact match)

5Q0411105ES

5Q0411105GN

5Q0411105HQ

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/eibach/17876015

 

Eibach R21093 rear springs (Eibach are selling this spring to replace just one OEM part number as listed below, so should be an exact match)

3Q0511115M

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/eibach/18112500

 

I just saw the docks that I have installed and these are.  I swear it's gray and blue.

IMG20220804115434.jpg

2 hours ago, Gabrielem said:

I just saw the docks that I have installed and these are.  I swear it's gray and blue.

IMG20220804115434.jpg

5Q0411105HS front spring
1 grey paint mark and 1 blue paint mark
https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/4/411/411000

 

5Q0411105HS is used on the Octavia MK3 Scout, so is an increased ride height front spring, at least when used on the Octavia MK3.

 

You can see the specification of both the 5Q0411105GN front spring and the 5Q0411105HS front spring on gknautomotive.com

 

5Q0411105GN front spring

https://web.tecalliance.net/gkn/en/parts/1/87623/detail?query=5Q0411105GN&numberType=1&oe=5Q0411105GN&groups=188#@brc/search:Search%20by%20any%20number%205Q0411105GN;query:5Q0411105GN;page:0/detail:87623;brandId:1;articleNo:87623;query:5Q0411105GN;numberType:1;oe:5Q0411105GN;groups:188

 

5Q0411105HS front spring

https://web.tecalliance.net/gkn/en/parts/1/87966/detail?query=5Q0411105HS&numberType=1&oe=5Q0411105HS&groups=188#@brc/search:Search%20by%20any%20number%205Q0411105HS;query:5Q0411105HS;page:0/detail:87966;brandId:1;articleNo:87966;query:5Q0411105HS;numberType:1;oe:5Q0411105HS;groups:188

 

Edited by Carlston

33 minutes ago, Carlston said:

Thanks again, the difference is only 8 mm, I really expected more.

1 hour ago, Gabrielem said:

Thanks again, the difference is only 8 mm, I really expected more.

 

According to Eibach's specifications, Eibach R20796 has a length of 311mm and Eibach R15459 has an uncompressed length of 330mm.

 

Eibach R15459 5Q0411105HS

Length 330mm, Wire diameter 13.0mm, Coil turns 4.8

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5q0411105hs?search=OEN+5Q0411105HS&supplier[0]=112

 

Eibach R20796 5Q0411105CG 5Q0411105CH

Length 311mm, Wire diameter 12.5mm, Coil turns 4.6 

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5q0411105cg?search=OEN+5Q0411105CG&supplier[0]=253&supplier[1]=112&supplier[2]=85&supplier[3]=246

 

Edited by Carlston

1 hour ago, Carlston said:

 

Según las especificaciones de Eibach, Eibach R20796 tiene una longitud de 311 mm y Eibach R15459 tiene una longitud sin comprimir de 330 mm.

 

Eibach R15459 5Q0411105HS

Longitud 330 mm, diámetro del cable 13,0 mm, vueltas de bobina 4,8

https://www.autodoc.es/recambios-de-coche/oem/5q0411105hs?search=OEN+5Q0411105HS&supplier[0]=112

 

Eibach R20796 5Q0411105CG 5Q0411105CH

Longitud 311 mm, diámetro del cable 12,5 mm, vueltas de bobina 4,6 

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/oem/5q0411105cg?search=OEN+5Q0411105CG&supplier[0]=253&supplier[1]=112&supplier[2]=85&supplier[3]=246

 

Yes, but the one recommended for my car is 5Q0411105GN, that's why I say it's only 8 mm...

1 hour ago, Gabrielem said:

Yes, but the one recommended for my car is 5Q0411105GN, that's why I say it's only 8 mm...

 

The lengths quoted by the spring manufacturers are only approximate. It's common to purchase a new aftermarket spring and find that it varies by a few millimetres from what is quoted.

 

The Eibach R15459 is claimed to match 5Q0411105HS, and Eibach claims 330mm for the length.

 

If your 5Q0411105HS is also 330mm, then the change to a 318mm 5Q0411105GN would be a 12mm reduction in uncompressed length. However, the 5Q0411105GN spring is softer than a 5Q0411105HS spring, perhaps by about 5%. This would result in a further reduction in front ride height of about 3mm with an unladen car. So you may find that the difference in front ride height between a 5Q0411105HS and a 5Q0411105GN spring is around 15mm, ie. what you would expect when going from an increased ride height spring to a standard ride height spring.

 

Even if the difference in uncompressed length was only 8mm between the 5Q0411105HS and 5Q0411105GN, when you add in the increased compression of the softer spring, that would be a difference of about 11mm.

 

Do you know what the OEM part number of your current rear springs are?

 

If you don't, you can find your car's build codes on ebay. Search "skoda decoder VIN" to find the listing. Cost is about 3 Euros.

 

Skoda Superb MK3 rear springs 4WD

 

1 3Q0511115AH Coil spring   2 PR-1JA+0YA  
1 3Q0511115AJ Coil spring   2 PR-1JA+0YB  
1 3Q0511115AK Coil spring   2 PR-1JA+0YC  
1 3Q0511115AL Coil spring   2 PR-1JA+0YD  
1 3Q0511115M Coil spring   2 PR-1JA+0YE  
1 3Q0511115N Coil spring   2 PR-1JA+0YF  
1 3Q0511115P Coil spring   2 PR-1JA+0YG  
1 3Q0511115Q Coil spring   2 PR-1JA+0YH  
1 3Q0511115R Coil spring   2 PR-1JA+0YJ  
1 3Q0511115BC Coil spring   2 PR-1JA+0YK  
1 3Q0511115S Coil spring   2 PR-1JC+0YA  
1 3Q0511115T Coil spring   2 PR-1JC+0YB  
1 3Q0511115AA Coil spring   2 PR-1JC+0YC  
1 3Q0511115AB Coil spring   2 PR-1JC+0YD  
1 3Q0511115AC Coil spring   2 PR-1JC+0YE  
1 3Q0511115AD Coil spring   2 PR-1JC+0YF  
1 3Q0511115BH Coil spring   2 PR-1JC+0YG  
1 3Q0511115AE Coil spring   2 PR-1JC+0YH  
1 3Q0511115AF Coil spring   2 PR-1JC+0YJ  
1 3Q0511115AG Coil spring   2 PR-1JC+0YK  
1 3Q0511115BD Coil spring   2 PR-1JC+0YL  
1 3Q0511115BG Coil spring   2 PR-UC7+0YA  
1 3Q0511115AN Coil spring   2 PR-UC7+0YB  
1 3Q0511115AP Coil spring   2 PR-UC7+0YC  
1 3Q0511115AQ Coil spring   2 PR-UC7+0YD  
1 3Q0511115AR Coil spring   2 PR-UC7+0YE  
1 3Q0511115AS Coil spring   2 PR-UC7+0YF  
1 3Q0511115AT Coil spring   2 PR-UC7+0YG  
1 3Q0511115BA Coil spring   2 PR-UC7+0YH  
1 3Q0511115BB Coil spring   2 PR-UC7+0YJ  
             

1  3Q0511115BE Coil spring  2  PR-UC7+0YK
 

https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/5/511/511005

 

VW Codes Decoder

1JA = Standard ride height spring
1JC = Sports/Lowered ride height spring
UC7 = Increased ride height spring

http://igorweb.org/equidec.aspx

 

3Q0511115M is the rear spring that KYB/Kilen/Lesjofors recommends for the standard ride height car, ie. Skoda Superb MK3 2.0TDI 190PS 4x4 Estate 

1 3Q0511115M Coil spring   2 PR-1JA+0YE

Edited by Carlston

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