C19: Rules for House Arrest - updated

[MikeTheThinker]

Whilst my wife and I await the arrival (or not, hopefully) of the NHS notice to say whether we're in the 'extra vulnerable' group I found this comprehensive and very helpful article on 'what now' from the Torygraph.

 

It's a long read but - to me - it's one of the most informative I've read over the last few days.

 

It's officially subscriber-only content but I'm sure they won't object to limited sharing for 'research purposes' 😉

 

Edit: sorry, upload didn't work.  PDF print has defeated me so far so I've posted the full text below.

 

Edited 23 March, 2020 by StickyMicky
Upload didn't work. Added text version below

[NJRJ]

It's written in invisible ink it seems to me.

 

[MikeTheThinker]

4 minutes ago, NJRJ said:

It's written in invisible ink it seems to me.

 

 

Oops! I should have checked past the first page before uploading, Sorry!

 

I'll try to fix it and re-upload when I'm done.

[VWD]

Tells me it's "unavailable". But being from government sources, I might ask my BIL( ex FCO) to translate for us non political readers.

[MikeTheThinker]

Here's the full article as text; sorry it's untidy but that's the way it came out.

 

" UK coronavirus lockdown: what the latest Government advice means for you

 Government has closed schools, pubs, restaurants, cafes, gyms and other businesses

By Gareth Davies,  BREAKING NEWS EDITOR and Tony Diver
  23 March 2020 • 8:53pm
 
Known UK cases 6,650

The coronavirus outbreak has sent the UK into lockdown.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said you will only be able to leave your house for one of four reasons:

1
Shopping for necessities
2
Once a day for exercise
3
Medical need or providing care
4
Travelling to or from work (if you can't work from home)

All non-essential shops are closing, excluded are food shops, pharmacies, corner shops, hardware stores, petrol stations, pet shops, post offices, banks, newsagents and shops inside hospitals.

Parks will stay open, but gyms including outdoor gyms, play-parks, kiosks, all places of worship except for funerals will close.

All gatherings of more than two people are going to be banned except for members of your own family. And these measures are in place for three weeks starting immediately.

Police will have power to issue on the spot fines of £30 for meeting without good reason.

Read the Prime Minister's speech in full below.

Boris Johnson's speech, in full

Good Evening,

The coronavirus is the biggest threat this country has faced for decades - and this country is not alone.

All over the world we are seeing the devastating impact of this invisible killer.

And so tonight I want to update you on the latest steps we are taking to fight the disease and what you can do to help.

And I want to begin by reminding you why the UK has been taking the approach that we have.

Without a huge national effort to halt the growth of this virus, there will come a moment when no health service in the world could possibly cope; because there won't be enough ventilators, enough intensive care beds, enough doctors and nurses.

And as we have seen elsewhere, in other countries that also have fantastic health care systems, that is the moment of real danger.

To put it simply, if too many people become seriously unwell at one time, the NHS will be unable to handle it - meaning more people are likely to die, not just from coronavirus but from other illnesses as well.

So it's vital to slow the spread of the disease.

Because that is the way we reduce the number of people needing hospital treatment at any one time, so we can protect the NHS's ability to cope - and save more lives.

And that's why we have been asking people to stay at home during this pandemic.

And though huge numbers are complying - and I thank you all - the time has now come for us all to do more.

From this evening I must give the British people a very simple instruction - you must stay at home.

Because the critical thing we must do is stop the disease spreading between households.

That is why people will only be allowed to leave their home for the following very limited purposes:

1
shopping for basic necessities, as infrequently as possible
2
one form of exercise a day - for example a run, walk, or cycle - alone or with members of your household;
3
any medical need, to provide care or to help a vulnerable person; and
4
travelling to and from work, but only where this is absolutely necessary and cannot be done from home.

That's all - these are the only reasons you should leave your home.

You should not be meeting friends. If your friends ask you to meet, you should say No.

You should not be meeting family members who do not live in your home.

You should not be going shopping except for essentials like food and medicine - and you should do this as little as you can. And use food delivery services where you can.

If you don't follow the rules the police will have the powers to enforce them, including through fines and dispersing gatherings.

To ensure compliance with the Government's instruction to stay at home, we will immediately:

- close all shops selling non-essential goods,? including clothing and electronic stores and other premises including libraries, playgrounds and outdoor gyms, and places of worship;

1
we will stop all gatherings of more than two people in public - excluding people you live with;
2
and we'll stop all social events?, including weddings, baptisms and other ceremonies, but excluding funerals.

Parks will remain open for exercise but gatherings will be dispersed.

No Prime Minister wants to enact measures like this.

I know the damage that this disruption is doing and will do to people's lives, to their businesses and to their jobs.

And that's why we have produced a huge and unprecedented programme of support both for workers and for business.

And I can assure you that we will keep these restrictions under constant review. We will look again in three weeks, and relax them if the evidence shows we are able to.

But at present there are just no easy options. The way ahead is hard, and it is still true that many lives will sadly be lost.

And yet it is also true that there is a clear way through.

Day by day we are strengthening our amazing NHS with 7,500 former clinicians now coming back to the service.

With the time you buy - by simply staying at home - we are increasing our stocks of equipment.

We are accelerating our search for treatments.

We are pioneering work on a vaccine.

And we are buying millions of testing kits that will enable us to turn the tide on this invisible killer.

I want to thank everyone who is working flat out to beat the virus.

Everyone from the supermarket staff to the transport workers to the carers to the nurses and doctors on the frontline.

But in this fight we can be in no doubt that each and every one of us is directly enlisted.

Each and every one of us is now obliged to join together, to halt the spread of this disease, to protect our NHS and to save many many thousands of lives.AndI know that as they have in the past so many times, the people of this country will rise to that challenge.

And we will come through it stronger than ever.

We will beat the coronavirus and we will beat it together.

And therefore I urge you at this moment of national emergency to stay at home, protect our NHS and save lives.

Thank you.

Where a member of a household has displayed symptoms (see the breakdown below), the Prime Minister said all residents should self-isolate for 14 days.

The most common coronavirus symptoms

Proportion of cases reporting each symptom (from 55,924 cases in China, to 22 February)

DiarrhoeaNasal congestionNausea or vomitingChillsHeadacheSore throatMuscle/ joint painShortness of breathSputum productionFatigueDry coughFever3.7%4.8%5%11.4%13.6%13.9%14.8%18.6%33.4%38.1%67.7%87.9%

Symptoms reported by fewer than one per cent of cases aren't shown

SOURCE: WHO (2020), OUR WORLD IN DATA

Coronavirus Bill

The emergency piece of legislation is wide-ranging, and you can read it in its entirety below, but here are the key points:

1
Enhanced powers could last until 2022
2
Power to detain people and test them for coronavirus, force them to isolate if they test positive, and fine them £1,000 if they refuse
3
Require supermarkets to give the Government information on whether there will be disruptions to their supply chains
4
Allow employers to claim for the cost of statutory sick pay from the Government where an employee has coronavirus
5
Give local authorities sweeping powers to order people such as crematorium managers to dispose of dead bodies in the event that death management becomes a problem
6
Allow Government to close down any shop, bar, restaurant or club and stop people from entering them

Read more: what is in the Coronavirus Bill?

Schools

While the Government said last week that all schools in the UK have closed in response to the coronavirus pandemic, it's not quite as straightforward as that.

From Friday 20 March, schools and nurseries will be closed "until further notice", Education Secretary Gavin Williamson said.

But in order for key workers to get to work, schools had to remain open in order for their children to be cared for.

The Government published a list of "key workers" in the early hours of Friday whose children will continue to be cared for at school amid the coronavirus pandemic.

Who are 'key workers' in coronavirus crisis?

Here is the list of workers whose children will be prioritised for schooling:

Health and social care

This includes frontline health and social care staff - such as doctors, nurses, midwives, paramedics, as well as support and specialist staff in the health and social care sector. In addition, those working in supply chains, including producers and distributors of medicines and personal protective equipment are included.

Education and childcare

This includes nursery, teaching staff and social workers, as the department said these workers are required to deliver their plans.

Key public services

Those required to run the justice system, religious staff, as well as those responsible for managing the deceased and journalists providing public service broadcasting are on the list.

Local and national government

The list "only includes administrative occupations essential to the effective delivery of the Covid-19 response or delivering essential public services", including payment of benefits.

Food and other necessary goods

The list includes those involved in the production, processing, distribution, sale and delivery of food.

Public safety and national security

Police, support staff, Ministry of Defence civilian staff and armed forces personnel are on the list, along with fire and rescue staff, as well as those responsible for border security, prison and probation staff.

Transport

The list includes those who will keep "air, water, road and rail passenger and freight transport modes operating during the COVID-19 response".

Utilities, communication and financial services

Staff required to keep oil, gas, electricity, water and sewerage operations running are on the list, along with those in the civil nuclear, chemical and telecommunications sectors. Those in postal services and working to provide essential financial services provision are also included.

But there has been chaos in schools with beauticians and museum staff arriving claiming to be "key workers" while firefighters and microbiologists were turned away.

The Prime Minister said that exams would not go ahead in May and June, meaning GCSEs, A-levels and SATs are on hold, but the aim is for children to get their results in the summer possibly using their predicted grades.

Supermarkets and shops

Supermarkets up and down the country have seen scenes of apocalyptic panic buying (see video below).

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Britons have been told not to panic buy and shop "as they would normally shop".

The Business Secretary Alok Sharma said: "I understand the rationale [of panic buying], but I think for the vast majority of people - they are being sensible. As shelves get re-stocked, I think they will take the rational step and shop as they would normally shop."

But, people were ignoring the advice as queues snaked around supermarket car parks, so supermarkets have introduced rationing on grocery products.

The hysteria has prompted some chains to introduce elderly and vulnerable-only shopping slots.

Shoppers will also be limited to a maximum of three of any grocery product and a maximum of two on the most popular items such as toilet roll, soap and UHT milk.

The Government has made assurances that shops' supplies will remain fully stocked and under the new emergency Coronavirus Bill, supermarkets would be forced to tell ministers about any supply chain issues.

The Government has said that if people must leave their homes to purchase food, they should limit social contact with other people.

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Pubs and restaurants

The Prime Minister has closed bars, clubs, restaurants and theatres.

Areas of close social contact such as pubs and clubs are high-risk areas for transmission of the virus.

 Workers boarding up a pub in Dublin city centre. All pubs in Ireland closed on Sunday evening to try and tackle the spread of coronavirus.  CREDIT: Peter Morrison/AP

Ministers will be able to "prohibit or restrict events and gatherings, and to close premises, if the public health situation deems it necessary" the notes to the Bill say.

The World Health Organisation (WHO) has placed quite a hefty emphasis on limiting smaller gatherings to counter the spread of the virus.

Restaurants also fall into this category and a number of chains - including McDonald's, Costa Coffee and Nando's - who had been offering a take-away only service will closed their doors indefinitely ahead of the Prime Minister's

 
Public transport

Dozens of stations on the London Underground network have been closed following the outbreak of Covid-19.

Transport for London says the plans were designed to allow critical workers to make essential journeys and will see up to 40 stations which do not interchange with other lines closed on the Tube network.

Here is the full list of the closures:

London Underground stations facing closure
Bakerloo Line: Lambeth North, Regents Park, Warwick Avenue, Kilburn Park, Charing Cross
Central Line: Holland Park, Queensway, Lancaster Gate, Chancery Lane, Redbridge
Circle Line: Bayswater, Great Portland Street, Barbican
District Line: Bow Road, Stepney Green, Mansion House, Temple, St James's Park, Gloucester Road
Jubilee Line: Swiss Cottage, St John's Wood, Bermondsey, Southwark
Northern Line: Tuffnell Park, Chalk Farm, Mornington Crescent, Goodge Street, Borough, Clapham South, Tooting Bec, South Wimbledon, Hampstead
Piccadilly Line: Caledonian Road, Arsenal, Covent Garden, Hyde Park Corner, Bounds Green, Manor House
Victoria Line: Pimlico, Blackhorse Road

TfL advises passengers to check their website for live updates.

Buses in the capital will be reduced and people are being urged "not to use public transport for anything other than essential journeys" and the Waterloo and City line and Night Tube services will not run from Friday.

London Mayor Sadiq Khan said: "I'm urging Londoners to only use public transport for essential journeys. Everyone should follow this and the other advice to help keep themselves and each other safe."

But this advice was not being adhered to, as the Tube, buses and trains were still packed on Monday morning, as can be seen below.

 Passengers squeeze on to a busy Central Line Underground train after the nation was told to stay at home and only travel if it was essential  CREDIT: Daniel Leal-Olivas/AFP

TfL said it would also be gradually reducing the frequency of services across the network, "to provide a service for critical workers to get to where they need to - ensuring that remaining services are not overcrowded".

London Overground, TfL Rail, the DLR and London Trams will also be running fewer services from next week.

Grant Shapps, Secretary of State for Transport, has previously hinted railway services could be axed because there was no point running "ghost trains".

Finance

The Chancellor Rishi Sunak announced that the Government will underwrite the entire nation's wage bill. Anyone who cannot work because of the coronavirus pandemic will be paid 80 per cent of their salary by the Government, capped at £2,500 per month, under an unlimited rescue package "unprecedented in the history of the British state".

Mr Sunak also announced four major financial pledges.

They are:

1

Government-backed loans worth £330billion - equivalent to 15 percent of GDP - will be made available to support businesses

2

Extending the business rates holiday to all businesses in the hospitality sector and funding grants of up to £25,000 for smaller businesses

3

Three-month mortgage holiday, meaning those affected by coronavirus will not pay a penny towards their mortgage

4
No business rates for 12 months
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SOURCE: PUBLIC HEALTH ENGLAND Last updated: 23 March 2020,  9:00
Travel

On Tuesday, Mar 17, Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said British citizens were advised against non-essential foreign travel for 30 days.

That refers to anywhere outside the UK.

In a Commons statement, he told MPs: "Based on the fast-changing international circumstances today I am announcing changes to FCO (Foreign and Commonwealth Office) travel advice.

"UK travellers abroad now face widespread international border restrictions and lockdowns in various countries.

"The FCO will always consider the safety and the security of British nationals so with immediate effect I've taken the decision to advise British nationals against non-essential travel globally for an initial period of 30 days and of course subject to ongoing review."

Mass gatherings

The Government has announced emergency service workers will no longer be supporting mass gatherings, as they would do in normal circumstances.

Mr Johnson said the Government wanted to keep emergency workers safe from infection during the coronavirus crisis, and "was moving emphatically away from" mass gatherings taking place.

The Prime Minister asked people to avoid attending mass gatherings and being with large groups of people, including at theatres.

This decision had already been taken out of the hands of sports fans, with the vast majority of elite sport - including Premier League and Premiership Rugby - being postponed for the foreseeable future. You can get all the latest updates on sports fixtures here.

Some bands have have cancelled tours, while others have defiantly played on. With festival season not too far away, there is uncertainty about how crowds will gather en masse in the coming weeks.

Victorious Festival in Portsmouth remains scheduled to go ahead, but Glastonbury has had to postpone its 50th anniversary festival.

 

It seems likely that more cultural or sporting events will now be cancelled, with the Government advising people not to attend.

If the UK decides to follow the paths of France and Italy, gatherings of more than 1,000 will be legally outlawed. Austria has taken a more extreme stance by banning people gathering in groups of any more than five.

Vulnerable groups

People classed as vulnerable have been told to drastically change the way they live their lives by "social distancing". The Government is strongly advising them to "significantly limit your face-to-face interaction with friends and family if possible".

Those who fall into this category are:

1
People aged 70 or older (regardless of medical conditions)
2
People under 70 with an underlying health condition listed below
3
Those who are pregnant

Underlying health issues can be largely defined by anyone who is instructed to get a flu jab as an adult each year on medical grounds, according to the Department of Health.

These conditions are set out in the box below.

If you have one of these conditions - you are considered vulnerable to Covid-19
Chronic (long-term) respiratory diseases, such as asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), emphysema or bronchitis
Chronic heart disease, such as heart failure
Chronic kidney disease
Chronic liver disease, such as hepatitis
Chronic neurological conditions, such as Parkinson’s disease, motor neurone disease, multiple sclerosis (MS), a learning disability or cerebral palsy
Diabetes
Problems with your spleen – for example, sickle cell disease or if you have had your spleen removed
A weakened immune system as the result of conditions such as HIV and AIDS, or medicines such as steroid tablets or chemotherapy
Being seriously overweight (a body mass index ( BMI ) of 40 or above)

Pregnant women are the most recent group to be added to the list, although the Government has stressed this is purely a precautionary measure as experts are "early in our understanding of this virus".

Although the limited evidence suggested there were no complications in pregnancy, for many infectious diseases "there is a small but appreciable additional risk" and as this was a new virus there was no evidence for people in early stages of pregnancy.

"Infections and pregnancy are not a good combination in general and that is why we have taken the very precautionary measure while we try and find out more," the Government's Chief Medical Officer Chris Whitty said, adding that he would rather be overly cautious at this stage and admit it was overkill at a later date than underplay it and get it wrong.

Those considered extremely vulnerable have been told to shield themselves from society for 12 weeks. Around 1.5million people were written to to inform them they are part of this group and should not leave their homes until at least Monday, June 15.

Coronavirus: Who is considered 'extremely vulnerable'?

People falling into this extremely vulnerable group include:

1) Solid organ transplant recipient

2) People with specific cancers:

People with cancer who are undergoing active chemotherapy or radical radiotherapy for lung cancer
People with cancers of the blood or bone marrow such as leukaemia, lymphoma or myeloma who are at any stage of treatment
People having immunotherapy or other continuing antibody treatments for cancer
People having other targeted cancer treatments which can affect the immune system, such as protein kinase inhibitors or PARP inhibitors
People who have had bone marrow or stem cell transplants in the last 6 months, or who are still taking immunosuppression drugs

3) People with severe respiratory conditions including all cystic fibrosis, severe asthma and severe COPD

4) People with rare diseases and inborn errors of metabolism that significantly increase the risk of infections (such as SCID, homozygous sickle cell)

5) People on immunosuppression therapies sufficient to significantly increase risk of infection

6) Women who are pregnant with significant heart disease, congenital or acquired.

What is social distancing?

Social distancing measures are steps you can take to reduce the social interaction between people. This will help reduce the transmission of coronavirus.

They are:

1
Avoid contact with someone who is displaying symptoms of coronavirus. These symptoms include high temperature and/or new and continuous cough
2
Avoid non-essential use of public transport, varying your travel times to avoid rush hour, when possible; 3.Work from home, where possible
3
Avoid large gatherings, and gatherings in smaller public spaces such as pubs, cinemas, restaurants, theatres, bars, clubs
4
Avoid gatherings with friends and family. Keep in touch using remote technology such as phone, internet, and social media
5
Use telephone or online services to contact your  GP  or other essential services

Everyone should be trying to follow these measures as much as is pragmatic, the Government said, and the advice is likely to be in place for some weeks.

Anybody with coronavirus symptoms - a new, persistent cough or a fever - should self-isolate.

Those living alone should do so for seven days, but those living with others should self-isolate as a household for 14 days.

Where possible - this should mean not leaving the home at all, and getting groceries delivered to the property.

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Care homes

Mr Johnson has said "unnecessary" visits to friends and relatives in care homes should cease.

The Prime Minister said: "You can take it from what we have just said about avoiding all unnecessary contact for those particular groups - the really strong advice that we are giving to people to avoid unnecessary contact with the over-70s, those with particular health conditions - absolutely, we don't want to see people unnecessarily visiting care homes."

Government policy will change in the next week to mandate 12 weeks' self-isolation for the elderly and vulnerable.

Universities

There are no Government-enforced closures, but many universities have taken it upon themselves to radically change their day-to-day running.

Oxford and Cambridge sent their students home, while many others, such as the London School of Economics and Political Science (LSE), announced an end to face-to-face lessons. Until the end of the academic year, all classes, exams and assessments will take place online.

Durham University has also cancelled all classroom-based lessons next week, along with all foreign field trips.

Students at King’s College London were told that that most "traditional exams" will not go ahead and alternative assessment formats and modes will be used instead. Law students were told they would be doing "take home" exams.

Coventry University said that graduation ceremonies held between March and April will be postponed due to "ongoing uncertainty" created by the coronavirus outbreak. Certificates will be posted to students' home addresses instead.  

Meanwhile, some students have threatened to take matters into their own hands amid inaction in the face of the spread of the virus, such as a group of undergraduates at Warwick University’s business school, who called for a boycott of a series of exams.

Courts

Criminal trials are to be put on hold as part of the ongoing efforts to delay the spread of coronavirus.

In a statement, it was announced that the Lord Chief Justice Lord Burnett - the most senior judge in England and Wales - has decided no new trial should start in any Crown Court unless it is expected to last for three days or fewer.

As a result, cases longer than three days that were due to start before the end of April will be postponed.

The announcement came after pressure mounted on the Government to make clear its strategy for courts, amid growing concerns about the impact of the Covid-19 outbreak on court business.

The statement said the impact of the public health emergency on the operation of the courts has been under "constant review", and that criminal trials pose "particular problems in a fast-moving situation" because of the involvement of many participants including the judge, jurors, defendants, lawyers, witnesses and court staff.

Nurseries

As with schools, all have shut in the week ending Friday 20 March.

Deliveries

Although there might be a longer wait for a slot, supermarket deliveries are going ahead as usual.

Companies such as Deliveroo and Uber Eats have introduced a no-contact policy, which means drivers drop the food off on doorsteps instead of handing it to the customer.

For the Royal Mail, it's business as usual.

Libraries

Libraries will be forced to close from midnight on Monday.

Gyms

All gyms - indoor and outdoor - will be closed until further notice.

Cinemas and theatres

All cinemas and theatres are now closed.

The virus has the potential to cause serious damage to the industry.

The latest James Bond film, No Time To Die, has been pushed back to November, while many upcoming releases, including A Quiet Place 2, The Secret Garden and Disney's Mulan, have been postponed indefinitely.

 

The move comes after theatres in the West End and around the UK closed.

The Society Of London Theatre - which represents hundreds of theatres in the capital including the National Theatre, London Palladium and London Coliseum - and UK Theatre said the decision was "not taken lightly".

The Royal Shakespeare Company also announced its three theatres will close following the Government's advice.

Hotels

Guests arriving at Britain's hotels can still expect to check in as planned, but the Health Secretary Matt Hancock told Britons not to visit holiday destinations."

 

[PetrolDave]

Here's a link to gov.uk of the restrictions now in place:

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874732/230320_-_Revised_guidance_note_-_finalVF.pdf

[gadgetman]

£30 fine? That all? 

[Ootohere]

We will see if a Fine or a penalty and when the actual emergency powers are in place in Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and England.

The Scottish Chief Constable thinks the Emergency Powers they will get might be enacted by later in the week.

 

They do not want to be detaining or arresting anyone and then transporting them to a police station, holding them and maybe having to accompany them to court.

 

Total lack of Personal Protection Equipment other than rubber gloves, stab vests, truncheons, pepper sprays and tasers.

They need to maybe raid some Illicit Drug Factories and get more masks etc. 

Edited 24 March, 2020 by Roottootemblowinootsoot

[Aspman]

I'm trying to empty our old rental. Technically I shouldn't be out but it needs done.

 

Couple taking is on are begging to get in early to escape from down south. I don't know where they are but I assume a city. they are going to buy us out our last two weeks of the contract.

SO's mum was up visiting at the weekend to see her DD before arrival of the little 'un. Apparently things are much more manic in the midlands. She got a shock at how well stocked the shops were here (other than tp) and the lack of drama and panic.

 

I saw a bloke with TP this afternoon. I've marked his house with chalk and I'll go back and hit it tonight.

[Ootohere]

Usually the light fingered avoid places with a Skoda outside but now they know they are a sure fired sign of TP hoarders.

Edited 24 March, 2020 by Roottootemblowinootsoot

[Auric Goldfinger]

3 hours ago, gadgetman said:

£30 fine? That all? 

 

I think all people " breaking " the rules should be shot.

 

This will befit people in 2 ways

 

1, This will stop the Virus from spreading

 

2, It will free up more spaces for deliveries with on line food shopping.

 

That is all

 

AG

[Aspman]

3 minutes ago, Auric Goldfinger said:

 

I think all people " breaking " the rules should be shot.

 

This will befit people in 2 ways

 

1, This will stop the Virus from spreading

 

2, It will free up more spaces for deliveries with on line food shopping.

 

That is all

 

AG

 

I'm sorry this is clearly not acceptable.

 

Gunshot wounds cause an explosive release of possibly virus contaminated body fluids. Those breaking the rules should be bundled into a sturdy airtight bag and either left to expire or beaten to a pulp with blunt objects. They could just brick up / TNT all the tube station entrances. That'll solve that problem NK style.

 

When word spreads in Max Brooks’s 2006 dystopian novel World War Z: An Oral History of the Zombie War that zombies are infesting the world, North Korea acts decisively, sealing its borders and hustling its people into mysterious bunkers. "No country was better prepared to repel the infestation than North Korea," says Hyungchol Choi, the fictional deputy director of the Korean Central Intelligence Agency.

 

Although as I remember the book no one ever comes out of those bunkers.

 

 

[Ootohere]

Ireland's Lock Down and subsidised wages sounds rather well considered. 

It looks like they have their act together on who can do what and where.

[MikeTheThinker]

52 minutes ago, Aspman said:

I saw a bloke with TP this afternoon. I've marked his house with chalk and I'll go back and hit it tonight.

 

Want some help? Share the spoils maybe?

 

[MikeTheThinker]

6 hours ago, PetrolDave said:

Here's a link to gov.uk of the restrictions now in place:

 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874732/230320_-_Revised_guidance_note_-_finalVF.pdf

 

Much clearer than the Torygraph epistle; thanks!

[Gaz]

1 hour ago, Aspman said:

 I've marked his house with chalk and I'll go back and hit it tonight.

 

Why not just keep the chalk at yours?  Will save having to go around his to hit it 😇

 

G

[Ootohere]

Matt Hancock MP is not for turning.  Until he and Boris are forced to obviously as the available public transport is rammed.

 

House Building working people can keep travelling to work in England.  At work as long as they can stay 2 meters apart!

He is not going to be fazed by any suggestion that the Conservative and Unionist Party have big donors from the house building industry.

Edited 24 March, 2020 by Roottootemblowinootsoot

[g_tee]

Not sure house building is "essential"? Nor offices?

[@Lee]

Is giving parking tickets in residential areas 'essential'?

 

[Ootohere]

TV outdoor broadcasts of empty streets and places usually busy are not essential as someone standing in Downing street across from Number 10 being filmed while nothing is actually going on other than people coming and going.

 

Posties are doing deliveries, important mail and leaflets and bumf that people are binning,

couriers are delivering totally useless rubbish people ordered online from the likes of Amazon Centres with thousands of workers 

packing essentials as well as just stuff that people happen to be wanting, or wanted a short while back.

[john999boy]

22 minutes ago, Lee01 said:

Is giving parking tickets in residential areas 'essential'?

On the other hand, does "They're probably visiting family" really make it okay to break the new CV19 advice as well as parking on a yellow line?

Once the rule of law starts slipping then anarchy develops.

 

The person filming the video should also be charged with offending my ears by calling people 'You's'!

[@Lee]

4 minutes ago, john999boy said:

On the other hand, does "They're probably visiting family" really make it okay to break the new CV19 advice as well as parking on a yellow line?

Once the rule of law starts slipping then anarchy develops.

 

The person filming the video should also be charged with offending my ears by calling people 'You's'!

I've no idea why the car was there or what the occupants were doing. Maybe their time would be better spent helping the Police by reporting groups of people flouting the new regs or at a Supermarket preventing too many people going in at once? As has been mentioned too often lately, 'unprecedented times'.
Yeah, bloody annoying voice though.

[shyVRS245]

Someone actually contacted the BBC today to ask if they saw more than 2 people together could they snitch on them and contact the Police to issue a fine.

[cheezemonkhai]

News reporter, camera person and interviewee ... job done

[Aspman]

18 hours ago, Roottootemblowinootsoot said:

TV outdoor broadcasts of empty streets and places usually busy are not essential as someone standing in Downing street across from Number 10 being filmed while nothing is actually going on other than people coming and going.

 

Posties are doing deliveries, important mail and leaflets and bumf that people are binning,

couriers are delivering totally useless rubbish people ordered online from the likes of Amazon Centres with thousands of workers 

packing essentials as well as just stuff that people happen to be wanting, or wanted a short while back.

 

Cant get rid of Amazon packaging now because they've shut the recycling centres. We're drowning in carboard boxes of baby stuff here