Bilstein B6 DCC shock absorbers available at last

[MartiniB]

On 06/01/2022 at 15:30, MartiniB said:

ordered: 2021-08-12  all Bilstein B6 DampTronic shocks + all Eibach Pro springs
shipped: 2021-12-17  front Bilstein B6 DampTronic shocks + all Eibach Pro springs
arrive: 2022-01-06
installation: 2022-01-19    front Bilstein B6 DampTronic shocks + front Eibach Pro springs

+ + +

installation: 2022-07-08    rear Eibach Pro springs

shipped: 2022-09-06         rear Bilstein B6 DampTronic shocks

arrive: 2022-09-12

installation: 2022-09-23   rear Bilstein B6 DampTronic shocks

 

13+ months long story has been finished

got perfect driving condition, small annoying suspension noises on rough roads aren't gone

 

 

 

rear axle got few new parts too

5Q0513353E   x2

1J0512135A   x2

N 90648402   x4

WHT007127    x2

5Q0511357L   x2

N 10628301   x2

5Q0513425J   x2

 

[MartiniB]

Eibach Pro F11-85-043-02-FA front (from weightier Audi Q2)
Eibach Pro F11-79-008-01-HA rear (from weightier Superb 4x4)
Bilstein B6 DampTronic 23-254343 front

Bilstein B6 DampTronic 20-267537 rear

 

2022.09.30 (one week after install rear shocks)

[TuneR]

So are the DCC drive modes noticeably different like stock only a little stiffer? The aforementioned B4 were the same on all settings someone said before...

[MartiniB]

8 hours ago, TuneR said:

So are the DCC drive modes noticeably different like stock only a little stiffer?

The difference between Comfort and Sport has been reduced for about 30%
as result, Normal became to useless option, because difference between Normal vs Sport and Normal vs Comfort is almost unnoticeable

 

Comfort, which were annoying waterbed, now feels like previous Normal
Sport became as Sport with little plus

 

by my subjective opinion, the most, 65% of performance improvement, came from stiffer Eibach Pro springs

 

[Donweather]

On 20/08/2022 at 11:13, Jrlim said:

 

 

What brakes are these please and they fit (clear) the stock skoda rims?

Edited 2 October, 2022 by Donweather

[Awesam]

On 02/10/2022 at 07:30, Donweather said:

What brakes are these please and they fit (clear) the stock skoda rims?

They look like AP racing 6 pot calipers and mostly likely will need a 18" rim minimum to fit. 

It depends on what you are after? Are you planning to increase the power/bhp of the car?

If not just better pads and discs would be more the suffice.

If you are considering more power then go for 4 pot calipers as you they can fit under a 17" rim if needed.

 

6 pots will require minimum 18" rims to allow for clearance.

 

 

[Donweather]

I have 19” rims and possibly looking to go to 20” rims so no dramas with 4 or 6 pot. Was more interested in the side clearance to the Skoda stock rims. 

[candasm]

I am curious how is the difference between monroe dcc and bilstein b6 ride comfort on normal or eco mode. 
What I want is to get rid of boat feeling but on the otherhand I don't want to loose too much from comfort.
Should I go with monroe dcc + eibach pro kit or bilstein b6 + eibach pro kit will be plus in any case?

I am driving with original 19" rims.

[Carlston]

11 hours ago, candasm said:

I am curious how is the difference between monroe dcc and bilstein b6 ride comfort on normal or eco mode. 
What I want is to get rid of boat feeling but on the otherhand I don't want to loose too much from comfort.
Should I go with monroe dcc + eibach pro kit or bilstein b6 + eibach pro kit will be plus in any case?

I am driving with original 19" rims.

 

Does your car have electronically adjustable shock absorbers?

 

What are the OEM part numbers of your original front and rear springs and your original front and rear shock absorbers?

 

Which Bilstein B6 and Monroe shock absorbers are correct for your car?

 

If you contact Bilstein and Monroe directly, maybe they can tell you by reference to your car's VIN number.

 

Maybe these rear shock absorbers are correct for your car, but you would need to check with Bilstein and Monroe directly?

 

I can't see any OEM part numbers listed against the Bilstein B6 20-267537 rear shock absorbers, but there's a long list of OEM part numbers shown against the Monroe C1521S rear shock absorbers, as listed below.

 

Note, that these two rear shock absorbers might not be correct for your car. You would have to check.

 

I'm not sure Bilstein B6 shock absorbers would be ideal for lowered ride height springs. That's normally Bilstein B8, and Bilstein B8 are not electronically adjustable.

 

So if you've got electronically adjustable shock absorbers, maybe go for standard ride height springs? You could always select a slightly stiffer standard ride height spring if you are finding your current springs too soft. Perhaps try two weight range stiffer rear springs? Together with top quality shock absorbers such as Bilstein B6 you should notice quick a difference.

 

Bear in mind, that if you  fit difference springs to standard such as lowered ride height springs, the shock absorbers that are correct for your original springs might not be ideal for your different springs.

 

Bilstein B6 20-267537 rear shock absorbers

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/bilstein/9166711

 

Monroe C1521S rear shock absorbers

OE 5Q0513045AM — VW

OE 5Q0513045AE — VW

OE 5Q0513045AH — VW

OE 5Q0513045BB — VW

OE 3Q0513045AB — VW

OE 3Q0513045AP — VW

OE 3Q0513045AQ — VW

OE 3Q0513045AR — VW

OE 3Q0513045AS — VW

OE 5Q0513045AB — VW

OE 5Q0513045AQ — VW

OE 5Q0513045AS — VW

OE 5Q0513045AT — VW

OE 5Q0513045BC — VW

OE 5QA513045C — VW

OE 5QF513045B — VW

OE 5Q0513045AK — VW / SEAT

OE 5Q0513045AJ — VW / SEAT

OE 5Q0513045AP — VW / SEAT

OE 5QF513045G — VW / SEAT

OE 5QF513045H — VW / SEAT

OE 3Q0513045AC — VW / SKODA

OE 3Q0513045AA — VW / SKODA

OE 3Q0513045AJ — VW / SKODA

OE 3Q0513045Q — VW / SKODA

OE 5Q0513045AN — VW / SKODA

OE 5Q0513045BD — VW / SKODA

OE 5QF513045C — VW / SKODA

OE 3Q0513045AD — SKODA

OE 5Q0513045BS — SKODA

OE 5Q0513045BT — SKODA

OE 5Q0513045BN — AUDI / CUPRA

OE 5Q0513045BA — VW / SKODA / SEAT

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/monroe/19151782

 

Edited 16 March, 2023 by Carlston

[candasm]

Hey @Carlston,

I am shopping 1st time for shock observers and I am new to this. I don't quite understand the difference but since 
there are a lot of good reviews about Bilstein monotube tech, I wanted to benefit from it. 

 

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Does your car have electronically adjustable shock absorbers?

Yes, I have DCC.

 

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What are the OEM part numbers of your original front and rear springs and your original front and rear shock absorbers?

Front: 3Q0413031AK, VB0315, Monroe, E4658702
Rear: 3Q0512009AF, Monroe, EM213301
 

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Which Bilstein B6 and Monroe shock absorbers are correct for your car?

Monroe find my part website: Monroe RideSense Electric Suspension, Front: C2516S, Rear: C1521S 
Bilstein Product Catalog: B6 DampTronic, Front: 23-254343, Rear: 20-267537

 

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I'm not sure Bilstein B6 shock absorbers would be ideal for lowered ride height springs. That's normally Bilstein B8, and Bilstein B8 are not electronically adjustable.

I understand about this but if not going for B16 DampTronic coilovers, this is the option. Also I search on web there are a lot of application with eibach pro kit springs.

 

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So if you've got electronically adjustable shock absorbers, maybe go for standard ride height springs? You could always select a slightly stiffer standard ride height spring if you are finding your current springs too soft. Perhaps try two weight range stiffer rear springs? Together with top quality shock absorbers such as Bilstein B6 you should notice quick a difference.

I want to have nice stance looking as well. but of course without loosing so much comfort basically I don't want to feel my kidney rocks.

 

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Bear in mind, that if you  fit difference springs to standard such as lowered ride height springs, the shock absorbers that are correct for your original springs might not be ideal for your different springs.

As I understand drop between standard height and Bilstein B8 is much more than Eibach pro kit, Which I wouldn't want that much of drop.

 

[candasm]

Hey @Carlston

 

About shorter spring question I checked Eibach website, this is written for Eibach pro kit E10-79-012-04-22:
 

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Axle: Multi-Link Axle, for all standard damping systems, for vehicles without leveling control

Seems like it should be ok to use with B6 Damptronic.

I also read on this blog post the same comment:
https://drivetunemedia.com/bilstein-b6-vs-b8-what-is-the-difference/
 

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B6 vs B8 – Only One Difference
There is only one difference between the B6 and the B8 and that is the length of the shock (damper). Bilstein B6 shocks are the same length as the original dampers, the B8 are shorter than the original dampers.
 

Which one to use?
Assuming you are using sport springs/lowering springs which do not require shortened dampers, you can use either. The majority of the lowering springs from H&R and Eibach are designed to work with the original dampers.

If you are using springs which need shortened (sport) dampers then you will need the Bilstein B8. Check the H&R/Eibach catalogues, it will tell you in the product notes if the springs need “sport” dampers. If it doesn’t saying anything about dampers, you can use the original dampers.

 

Edited 31 March, 2023 by candasm

[Arseneknows]

There are some cheaper aftermarket DCC shocks on Ebay , new for about £500 front pair. Seemingly unbranded and they are the complete shock complete with springs, top mount etc.

 

Has anybody got an opinion on these please? They look super cheap compared to OEM , Bilston, etc.

 

 

[JoaoVr]

For a 2016 Estate Superb 2.0 TDI 150HP (NON 4x4) what is the correct part number for B6 Bilstein?

Front: 23-254343

Rear:  20-267537

?

[Carlston]

56 minutes ago, JoaoVr said:

For a 2016 Estate Superb 2.0 TDI 150HP (NON 4x4) what is the correct part number for B6 Bilstein?

Front: 23-254343

Rear:  20-267537

?

 

Have you got DCC (electronically adjustable shock absorbers)?

[JoaoVr]

Yes!

[Carlston]

2 minutes ago, JoaoVr said:

Yes!

 

For the Superb MK3 2.0TDI 150HP estate 2WD with DCC, autodoc are listing Bilstein B6 23-254343 DCC front shock absorbers and Bilstein B6 20-267537 DCC rear shock absorbers, ie. the same as what you have said.

[JoaoVr]

Bump stop and dust proctector comes with shocks or I will use old ones?

[MartiniB]

12 hours ago, JoaoVr said:

Bump stop and dust proctector comes with shocks or I will use old ones?

B6s came without, replaced by new OE on my 5y old previous ŠS Mk3 2016.

[JoaoVr]

Thanks mate

 

[JoaoVr]

By the way, does it need DCC calibration in the end?

[JR RS]

13 hours ago, JoaoVr said:

By the way, does it need DCC calibration in the end?

 

U can't perform DCC recalibration on Bilstein shocks.

[MarkyG82]

Shirley the calibration is done on the system and not the shocks themselves?  I definitely seen reports (on here?) of DCC cal being done with VCDS.  Could be a placebo.

[JoaoVr]

Did anyone removed the DCC shocks to  fit a regular ones that can give feedback?

[JR RS]

4 hours ago, JoaoVr said:

Did anyone removed the DCC shocks to  fit a regular ones that can give feedback?

 

Deleting the DCC shocks for regular shocks will upset a lot of other systems on ur car, like the headlights, steering, and others.

It's not recommended.

 

[Bingodalton]

Delete kits are available. So, it will work. Guess it can be reprogrammed too.