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It is p|$$ poor in Scotland.  Back killing me. 10 minutes to get charging.   Moved to the 3rd charger which is usually the slowest.   3 or 4 attempts at the first 2 then this one to get a charge. Did not accept to get ElectroVerse card then did then stopped charging or never started.  Same then with the CPS RFID.   Never tried a Credit Card payment but next time here I will.  

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Just spotted on the ElectroVerse map/ app 3 chargers at Castle Business park which the entrance to is as you come to Castle view park and ride Stirling, I will check it out as it shows 46 pence a kWh rather than 59 pence here on these crap chargers speed wise and reliability .     EDIT, speed actually ok now.  Just need 75% and away.  I will check out what looks like a single rapid in the Business Park but with 3 charge heads in CCS, Chadamo and AC tethered. 

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7 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

It is p|$$ poor in Scotland.  Back killing me. 10 minutes to get charging.   Moved to the 3rd charger which is usually the slowest.   3 or 4 attempts at the first 2 then this one to get a charge. Did not accept to get ElectroVerse card then did then stopped charging or never started.  Same then with the CPS RFID.   Never tried a Credit Card payment but next time here I will.  

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These are the bits that you don't come across with an ICE car and is why I say that the future as it stands is NOT electric. We have had many decades now of plentiful PFS where you can rock up, fill the tank in minutes, pay cash or card and be on your way within minutes and if they seriously believe that electric is the future, and there genuinely is no other hidden agenda in the switch over, then these are the very things that they simply must get right. The total cost of doing that is going to considerably cheaper, and it would be far quicker than demolishing all housing stocks that do not have off-road parking and facility to have their own home charger installed.

Not found the public charger, found this at the post code. 

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Found it.    Great.  @SEPA. 

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12 hours ago, lol-lol said:

Let's hope Labour does what the Cons would not and align home and public charging Value Added Tax.

 

Be careful what you wish for. One way to do it is charge 20% VAT on home charging.

3 minutes ago, Luckypants said:

Be careful what you wish for. One way to do it is charge 20% VAT on home charging.

That is entirely possible if the Brex*****  are to be believed as when we were part of the larger club, we could not alter VAT rates, but leaving the club would allow us to do just that, hmm food for thought....

7 minutes ago, Luckypants said:

Be careful what you wish for. One way to do it is charge 20% VAT on home charging.

 

Electricity should be getting so cheap that 20% of next to nothing is almost nothing. 

Like the small price rise on single tariff and day time dual rates if one is using most one's electricity at the night time rate, and that is staying at the same rate, a poultry 8.5p per kwh ie dropping in real terms, it would not be so bad.

 

UK government could be creative as it has left the EU when you can only have one lower rate, 5% in uk case, a standard rate over 15% and then a super rate which uk never adopted. 

 

I would be quite happy to see a 10% rate on both home and public charging to even the playing field. It would hardly change my home bills but take 8p or so off public charger and be fairer to those you cannot charge at home.

 

On 11/12/2024 at 10:50, Graham Butcher said:

Oh, so now, all of a sudden it's all about CO2, well in that case we do know that plants take CO2 and convert it back into Oxygen, so let's stop concreting over masses of land to create charging hubs etc, let's stop chopping down huge forests, let's stop starting bush fires (we know that some are natural, but most are started by people either through careless behaviour or on purpose). Let's stop wars from happening, etc. We can achieve so much more if we could all learn to exist in peace with each other.

You know @Graham Butcher, given that CO2 is supposedly a problem, it seems odd to me that you can legally buy devices sold with the sole purpose of generating CO2.

Or is that just me misunderstanding things, and this is "good" CO2, not like the "bad" CO2 emitted by vehicles?

https://www.onestopgrowshop.co.uk/collections/co2-supplementation

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Surely electricity, gas, coal and oil are interlinked to keep them near enough the same level in a bid to not maximise the profits that each sector makes?

6 minutes ago, EnterName said:

You know @Graham Butcher, given that CO2 is supposedly a problem, it seems odd to me that you can legally buy devices sold with the sole purpose of generating CO2.

Or is that just me misunderstanding things, and this is "good" CO2, not like the "bad" CO2 emitted by vehicles?

https://www.onestopgrowshop.co.uk/collections/co2-supplementation

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Indeed with the Net-Zero what about the other affects that are caused by CO2 etc?

Why is there a CO2 shortage and how will it hit food supplies? - BBC News

1 hour ago, lol-lol said:

Electricity should be getting so cheap that 20% of next to nothing is almost nothing. 

That will only happen when the pointless link to world oil/gas prices is broken, and I don't see any of the current electricity suppliers agreeing to that as it will slash their profits.

2 hours ago, EnterName said:

You know @Graham Butcher, given that CO2 is supposedly a problem, it seems odd to me that you can legally buy devices sold with the sole purpose of generating CO2.

Or is that just me misunderstanding things, and this is "good" CO2, not like the "bad" CO2 emitted by vehicles?

https://www.onestopgrowshop.co.uk/collections/co2-supplementation

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And how many of those are in active use? 
 

It’s a numbers game. The more of something, the bigger it is a target for reduction.
 

Any reduction will have a meaningful impact compared to targeting rarely used devices. 
 

2 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

Indeed with the Net-Zero what about the other affects that are caused by CO2 etc?

Why is there a CO2 shortage and how will it hit food supplies? - BBC News

Here’s an idea based on your logic:  connect your car exhaust to solve the supply shortage for your food. 
 

Not sure about you, I don’t want anything out of ICE

What is the point of Carbon Fibre parts on vehicles the weight of these?

 

 

8 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

These are the bits that you don't come across with an ICE car and is why I say that the future as it stands is NOT electric. We have had many decades now of plentiful PFS where you can rock up, fill the tank in minutes, pay cash or card and be on your way within minutes and if they seriously believe that electric is the future, and there genuinely is no other hidden agenda in the switch over, then these are the very things that they simply must get right. The total cost of doing that is going to considerably cheaper, and it would be far quicker than demolishing all housing stocks that do not have off-road parking and facility to have their own home charger installed.

 

Don't really come across this in most of England I think due to the higher population density and the higher propensity of firms such as Gridserve, Ionity and TESLA to name the top few but I am sure there are several other names that some would add to that list.  Where many of us charge we actually can choose from a bank of chargers from say Gridserve or a bank of chargers from TESLA.  Each will have several stalls available, their up time percentage seems to be well over 99% and the cost of TESLA at least not too bad and likely to come down lower as they look to destroy any competition in these locations which hopefully the Grdiserves, like at Braintree, Gatwick, Norwich and many of the English service stations will need to start competing as any drive though will see the TESLA Public chargers open to all are usually five time or more well attended than Gridserve. All 150 kw or more stations it seems and many to be uprated to 360 kws to cope with the ever increasing 800v architecture cars with charge times of around 15 minutes for a charge to take one well over 3 hours driving at UK NSL.

 

Not sure I knew or would presume to know the solution for Scotland but I think I would have been much more tempted to pay the extra £4k asking price for the big battery Scenic with the 370 mile WLTP rather than settle for my 267 mile WLTP smaller battery but I am rarely more than ten miles from a bank of 8, 12, 16 high powered chargers with super high reliability.

 

Huge changes then 'across most of England' in the past 2 years. 

 

Not always about Service Stations and Trunk Routes, that is about intercity and travelling, for many it is their area of villages, towns and back roads and local and not the MOTORWAY NETWORK, for public charging. Near to home / work. 

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I know that this is going to be as popular as rattlesnake in a lucky dip, but this is factual and not clickbait and this could be just the thin end of the wedge, and you have to ask yourself if you have and electric car and the manufacturer has written a letter advising you not to charge it undercover or park it near your house or buildings and your insurance company withdraw your insurance cover on car and or building/house or even both if you're with the same company for both, what are you going to do?

 

I know many of you will smirk and chortle and the McMaster's misfortune, but guys, it is serious, not claickbait and given the large amount of electric cars that have been recalled for repairs because of fire risk (many makes are suffering this problem) , what do you do and where do you leave the car?

 

Are you still saying that electric cars do not pose any risks, I'm not aware of any similar incident ever happening with ICE cars, are you.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

I know that this is going to be as popular as rattlesnake in a lucky dip, but this is factual and not clickbait and this could be just the thin end of the wedge, and you have to ask yourself if you have and electric car and the manufacturer has written a letter advising you not to charge it undercover or park it near your house or buildings and your insurance company withdraw your insurance cover on car and or building/house or even both if you're with the same company for both, what are you going to do?

 

I know many of you will smirk and chortle and the McMaster's misfortune, but guys, it is serious, not claickbait and given the large amount of electric cars that have been recalled for repairs because of fire risk (many makes are suffering this problem) , what do you do and where do you leave the car?

 

 

 

 

 

It is clickbait, the letter does not mention his house insurance and also invites him to call about renewal to clarify the change  in circumstances  he notified them about earlier.

7 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

I know many of you will smirk and chortle and the McMaster's misfortune,

 

I won't because I would not put myself through the ordeal of having to look and listen to him again.

 

A question for you, why do you refer to him by the stupid title he has created for himself or is it in a mocking manner?

9 minutes ago, J.R. said:

A question for you, why do you refer to him by the stupid title he has created for himself or is it in a mocking manner?

Simples, that is the name of his channel and so if you want to refer to anything about his channel, then does it not make sense to use the name that he gave it? To my mind it is respect.

 

Much the same as Land Rover Jaguar, everybody knows that they are owned by Tata Motors but when referring to either a Land Rover or a Jaguar, you don't say Tata Motors or do you?

 

1 hour ago, Stonekeeper said:

It is clickbait, the letter does not mention his house insurance and also invites him to call about renewal to clarify the change  in circumstances  he notified them about earlier.

The letter, is the one that he has not yet received from Porsche, it is one has been sent to other Taycan owners of a particular batch of Taycans. He rang his insurance company to ask a hypothetical question about would happen to anybody in the situation where they had been advised not to charge undercover or park close to buildings until the repair had been carried out. You heard their response in the video. In the previous video when you posed that question he did not say who he was or if he had a policy with that company, they traced his phone through their records, found out he did, and have assumed that he has a faulty car and not notified them and so are refusing to roll his policy over without renegotiating or further clarification on if he has a faulty car or not.

 

The implication being, that if you are one of these unfortunate people, then it is very likely that if you do not follow the manufacturers advise, they would withdraw cover in the event of any incident arising with your car being the cause of it. 

1 hour ago, Graham Butcher said:

Simples, that is the name of his channel and so if you want to refer to anything about his channel, then does it not make sense to use the name that he gave it? To my mind it is respect.

 

You could have referred to him as he as I note you did in your last posting.

 

Your mention of respect answers my question, I do not respect or admire someone that bigs themselves up by naming themselves as the master and also preceding it with "the" (my terrible 70's progressive education means I am unable to give the correct grammatical term for it) and no way would I ever refer to them using it.

 

Would he, him etc be his pronouns? Maybe I have the woke brigade to thank for correcting one tiny bit of my ignorance of grammar!

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