16 hours ago, Viffer800 said:

My MY22 SEL with 18" wheels is definitely 2.5Bar front and back

FWIW, mine still has the OEM Brigstone tyres. They are s***e and will be replaced fairly soon. They can lose traction when pulling out of junctions but never when pulling away in a straight line. It feels like juddery transmission rather than simple spinning wheels. My wife's MY23 has Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF3s and does not experience that issue.

So, you may wish to check if the car you're interested in has the OEM's fitted. It could possibly be those and not the transmission even if it fells like it is.

My Karoq sportline 3000 miles, looses grip very easily when accelerating. If I am not careful I also can get transmition judder . I put it down to the Bridgeton tyres.

Motability do not Spec the cars Customers order and lease. Skoda UK offer with whatever Advance Payment the vehicles they are keen to get First Registered . Some can be bought cheaper than others by Motability from Skoda to lease. They are almost certain to be offering models with Front parking sensors or camera & rear camera. The tyres fitted will be just as fitted at the factory and part of the lottery any UK customer might get in the way of tyres. Now if the tyres are replaced at KwikFit while under lease different tyres might get fitted, and maybe what the customer wants if Motability approve. Or like my cars from Motability the car is handed back with the tyres i fitted on the rims, so that is All Seasons.

19 minutes ago, Evolution13 said:

Motability do not Spec the cars Customers order and lease. Skoda UK offer with whatever Advance Payment the vehicles they are keen to get First Registered . Some can be bought cheaper than others by Motability from Skoda to lease. They are almost certain to be offering models with Front parking sensors or camera & rear camera. The tyres fitted will be just as fitted at the factory and part of the lottery any UK customer might get in the way of tyres. Now if the tyres are replaced at KwikFit while under lease different tyres might get fitted, and maybe what the customer wants if Motability approve. Or like my cars from Motability the car is handed back with the tyres i fitted on the rims, so that is All Seasons.

Thank you

Was just thinking out loud as to why the tyres fitted may be different. The fact both of our Karoqs had the same make & model of tyre suggests supplied with them. Possible both 'owners' changed to the Bridgestones but would be a helluva coincidence if they did.

Suzuki fiitted Bridgestone Duellers for decades and still do, even to the Jimny,s. Totally crap tyres. VW Group really seem to just fit whatever is cheap to them from whoever for the UK. Even to proper 4x4,s not just Softroaders.

Edited 9 January9 Jan by Evolution13

Had Bridgestone Ecopia EP 150 on the Swift when it came and couldn't wait for them to wear out...

The dealer has now come back to me and their senior technician said that the car had learnt the driving style of the previous owner and that with 400/500 miles the car would learn mine and the issue would stop… 😂

Needless to say, i’ve walked away.

Hi , now if the car had been a manual I could understand the murdering but I have a Superb with the same engine / gear box combination.

My car very occasionally juders on full lock going forward when I enter my drive.I believe the cause 5could by that the engine does not have much torque this the problem.

I run the car on 99 octane Esso and now never had a problem.

I had demonstration of two examples of my car and the car I did not purchase was flat as a pancake and my example goes like the wind.

Please don't be tempted to go back and have another look !!

4 hours ago, LiamD91 said:

The dealer has now come back to me and their senior technician said that the car had learnt the driving style of the previous owner and that with 400/500 miles the car would learn mine and the issue would stop… 😂

Needless to say, i’ve walked away.

The DSG does learn to a certain extent, but you are wise to walk away. For example after completing a 1000 mile round trip towing a twin axle car trailer the DSG in both my current Karoq and mh previous Touran would change down sooner, and after a few days would revert to normal behaviour. I dread to think what driver style had caused a DSG to learn to judder!

Edited 19 January19 Jan by thamestrader

I have been getting this symptom sometimes on my 2018 1.5 TSI DSG (46k). Specifically, when on auto hold uphill or on an upwards ramp and I go back on the gas, the car will shudder a bit. I mentioned it going into the last main dealer service and they said they couldn't find anything wrong, just the auto box trying to find the right gear/power to move up the hill. Haven't really thought much of it since.

Edited 24 January24 Jan by joek666

Just try into S so it is a a little higher RPM before it goes to 2nd then 3rd.

1 hour ago, joek666 said:

I have been getting this symptom sometimes on my 2018 1.5 TSI DSG (46k). Specifically, when on auto hold uphill or on an upwards ramp and I go back on the gas, the car will shudder a bit.

Our Fabia with the same DQ 200 DSG was having problems on a slight slope in D with hill hold. Taking ones foot off the brake pedal without touching the throttle the Fabia could do any of the following:

1. Roll back with the engine revs rising - clutch obviously not engaging.

2. Engine revs rise slightly (1000 rpm) car creeps forward - as you'd expect.

3. Engines rise slightly (1000 rpm) car creeps forward, then starts to roll back and revs rise further (1,500 rpm or more) - obviously clutch has disengaged.

With (1) above the throttle was applied to stop it rolling back it would do (3) then (2) and then (3) or sometimes just (2). Totally unpredictable and it was the same on the flat but less of an issue.

In reverse it behaved as it should and would creep up the slope without rolling forward.

I've had two other DSG cars and on a slope both of them would move off smoothly and creep with touching the throttle so I felt sure the Fabia wasn't right.

The cure was actually very simple and relatively inexpensive. I took the Fabia to STA DSG specialists in Aylesbury who connected it up to the diagnostics - no faults, but they could see the problem when they test drove it. Then they did a Clutch Pack relearn or reset where the DSG controller establishes the biting point of the clutches, by engaging and dis-engaging each clutch a few times. This cost £160 and solved the problem completely.

I'm not suggesting that your juddering is the same issue but it does sound related in that the clutch engagement, engine revs and auto hold release are no longer quite in sync.

On 08/01/2026 at 18:01, Viffer800 said:

My MY22 SEL with 18" wheels is definitely 2.5Bar front and back

FWIW, mine still has the OEM Brigstone tyres. They are s***e and will be replaced fairly soon. They can lose traction when pulling out of junctions but never when pulling away in a straight line. It feels like juddery transmission rather than simple spinning wheels. My wife's MY23 has Pirelli Cinturato All Season SF3s and does not experience that issue.

So, you may wish to check if the car you're interested in has the OEM's fitted. It could possibly be those and not the transmission even if it fells like it is.

Not sure how relevant it is but IF the issue is related to the tyres as described in my quoted post you may wish to have a peek at the thread I started earlier today entitled "Michelin CrossClimate 3s"

On 24/01/2026 at 15:05, thamestrader said:

Our Fabia with the same DQ 200 DSG was having problems on a slight slope in D with hill hold. Taking ones foot off the brake pedal without touching the throttle the Fabia could do any of the following:

1. Roll back with the engine revs rising - clutch obviously not engaging.

2. Engine revs rise slightly (1000 rpm) car creeps forward - as you'd expect.

3. Engines rise slightly (1000 rpm) car creeps forward, then starts to roll back and revs rise further (1,500 rpm or more) - obviously clutch has disengaged.

With (1) above the throttle was applied to stop it rolling back it would do (3) then (2) and then (3) or sometimes just (2). Totally unpredictable and it was the same on the flat but less of an issue.

In reverse it behaved as it should and would creep up the slope without rolling forward.

I've had two other DSG cars and on a slope both of them would move off smoothly and creep with touching the throttle so I felt sure the Fabia wasn't right.

The cure was actually very simple and relatively inexpensive. I took the Fabia to STA DSG specialists in Aylesbury who connected it up to the diagnostics - no faults, but they could see the problem when they test drove it. Then they did a Clutch Pack relearn or reset where the DSG controller establishes the biting point of the clutches, by engaging and dis-engaging each clutch a few times. This cost £160 and solved the problem completely.

I'm not suggesting that your juddering is the same issue but it does sound related in that the clutch engagement, engine revs and auto hold release are no longer quite in sync.

Thanks I will consider getting that done at some point.

Planning to switch from main dealer servicing to an independent VW specialist this year as the main dealer cost is just getting ridiculous and I can no longer justify it for the age of the car. Perhaps they will have more insight.

@joek666 find s good independent DSG specialist. The one I used strip and rebuild them, upgrade components for racing etc, they see a lot of DSG gearboxes and I feel have a much better understanding of them than a lot the dealers who aren’t in a position to strip and rebuild DSG boxes.

Taking the car into an independent garage on Wed, will report back.

New symptom developed a week ago - a metallic scraping sound while the car is moving. Almost sounds like I am dragging a tin can along the ground, but there's nothing I can see underneath that would cause the sound. Concerned it may be related, but equally could be something completely unrelated.

@joek666 that might just be a brake splash guard that has rotted enough to break free - a friend with a 2019 VW T-Roc has already had to replace both front brake splash guards due to them "departing" the car.

2 hours ago, rum4mo said:

@joek666 that might just be a brake splash guard that has rotted enough to break free - a friend with a 2019 VW T-Roc has already had to replace both front brake splash guards due to them "departing" the car.

Yeah, watched a video on it just now and it seems to match the sound I'm getting. Good to know it's probably nothing to do with the gearbox.