Just my opinion! Always found them soft, not very long lasting and average all round.

Funny, as I have been running them for over a year and do approx 25k per year - they are wearing well (I swap to winters). I don't find them soft, and wet and dry grip are superior to the Michelin OEM tyres that were on mine before.

If you are shopping at national tyres, The BOGOF offer, Most of these tyres have recently had large price increases. the multi buy discount reflects on the previuos price.

I'm in the same boat as you needing four new tyres 225 40 18's... Ive always gone down the Pilot sport 2 and 3 option, They are one hell of a tyre but now looking at nearly £600 fitted.

Heres what I've had, just my opinion,

Firestones NO,- Terrible grip.

Uniroyal rainsports, suprisingly poor grip

Avon ZZ3 Good but not as good as Michelins on the limit round corners - dont feel as confident in these as michelins.

Dunlop SP's CRAP s .- Went through 2 little potholes and ended up with 2 deformed tyres - useless in Winter weather.- awful.

Pirelli's OKAY but wore out really quickly

Toyo Proxis - Excellent Gtippy Tyre, but expensive these days!

Michelin PS2 or PS3 - Excellent but expensive.

I'm thinking Falcon 452's from blackcircles - I've heard lots of good reviews and can save about 200 quid instead of michelins.

I recently got 4 Michelin PS3s for just over £442 delivered and paid £40 for fitting.

Interesting thoughts on the P6000's, I don't consider them premium but better than budget. I'll certainly try something a little different in the same price range given the poor reception on here.

OP, let us know what you go for!

I used P6000s for ten years and never had a problem with them. I am not exactly a slow driver (but I don't use the road as a race track) and I used them in all weathers and over on the continent at high speed.

I have Barum Bravuris 2 on the Octavia, and have just returned from a 2800 mile trip to the continent, where they saw me through rainstorms in France and 40 degree temperatures in Italy. The tyres are safe and look as though they will last a long time. I used to use Barum in my cycle racing days, and they were always reliable and grippy.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Maxxis/MA-Z1-Victra.htm

got these all round recently and tbh cannot fault them at all.

Thought a bit of a cheaper tyre would be crap in the wet but on the greasy wet country roads i live around they are spot on.

£65 each i got them

http://www.tyrerevie...A-Z1-Victra.htm

got these all round recently and tbh cannot fault them at all.

Thought a bit of a cheaper tyre would be crap in the wet but on the greasy wet country roads i live around they are spot on.

£65 each i got them

I've the same but I thought I got a good deal at £82 each!

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I have Barum Bravuris 2 on the Octavia, and have just returned from a 2800 mile trip to the continent, where they saw me through rainstorms in France and 40 degree temperatures in Italy. The tyres are safe and look as though they will last a long time. I used to use Barum in my cycle racing days, and they were always reliable and grippy.

I've just ordered 2x Barum Bravuris for the rears. Having them fitted Friday ready for a 1500mile trip around the far NW of Scotland. Lets hope they are as good as I've read.

Well the Maxxis, look a pretty good deal. Anyone know if these can be purchased through an ATS or similar tyre fitter?

Go for some value tyres if that's what you want. No tyres are dangerous. It's poor drivers that are dangerous.

Go for some value tyres if that's what you want. No tyres are dangerous. It's poor drivers that are dangerous.

I disagree. Yes poor drivers are dangerous BUT there are some shockingly bad tyres out there, especially in wet conditions, and not just budget brands. I had some Kumho tyres (can't remember which) that were really really bad in the wet to the point of being dangerous.

Is anyone else running Maxxis on 18s? They were on the car when I bought it and I can't believe the amount of road noise! I even took it to a garage to check for knackered wheel bearings. Even at about 20mph there's a loud hum, especially on smooth Tarmac.

I said it before and I will say it again.

If you do not want to pay for premium tyres but want to be safe, put Hankooks on.

Edited 6 August, 201213 yr by vectra1

Go for some value tyres if that's what you want. No tyres are dangerous. It's poor drivers that are dangerous.

I also disagree. The moment it rains, some of these budget tyres are lethal for stopping distances and its this that can cause an accident. Handling and outright grip in the dry is just a couple of factors to consider when buying tyres. But consider this, would you be happy buying a budget tyre, rated as a M+S but its actually a summer tyre, knowing that this gets the manufacturer past the wet pavement and braking test? Its about time these tyres were outlawed and this could happen soon.

Drove my new Vredensteins (at present they are rear only) through some really wet stuff (including country lanes) at weekend and they seem exactly as good, if not better, that the originals. Not "budget" but not very expensive either.

Most people never really know how good or bad their tyres really are until its too late

Most people never really know how good or bad their tyres really are until its too late

I suppose it depends how near the limits you drive.

I suppose it depends how near the limits you drive.

Well kinda but there is always the time a child runs out , you get a sudden downpour on the motorway or other event which means you need to push the performance of your brakes and tyres

Thats when you will either be glad or sorry about your choice of tyres

My opinion is its they only part of the car in contact with the road and deserve the best you can afford , there are places to make savings but brakes and tyres arent them

Edited 6 August, 201213 yr by Richf

Drove my new Vredensteins (at present they are rear only) through some really wet stuff (including country lanes) at weekend and they seem exactly as good, if not better, that the originals. Not "budget" but not very expensive either.

Far from being budget and more expensive than they used to be before people cottoned on that they were actually very good. I have used the setantas several times and performance in wet and dry is excellent but they don't last long.

Really, the only way you can judge is if you had the chance to put every conceivable set of tyres on your same car, in the same (bad) conditions, and give them a hard time.

And even then, in real life you can't tell, because probably higher mileage tyres of an expensive make might be worse than a cheaper, or at least mid range, tyre in nearly new condition.

Yes, you might pull up a few feet shorter doing an emergency stop, but look at all the different odds you are considering for any given occasion. You can't judge everything by fractions of a second, because that can work both ways as well. Too many variables. So long as you use known decent tyres in good condition and inflation, and keep your eyes open, and drive at a safe speed for the conditions, you can't ask much more.

Ideal tyres made of Velcro with Velcro roads.

Its about time these tyres were outlawed and this could happen soon.

Whats going to happen soon then?

Whats going to happen soon then?

The law is going to change. Comes from various garages that I use.

The law is going to change. Comes from various garages that I use.

Please do tell?

I also disagree. The moment it rains, some of these budget tyres are lethal for stopping distances and its this that can cause an accident. Handling and outright grip in the dry is just a couple of factors to consider when buying tyres. But consider this, would you be happy buying a budget tyre, rated as a M+S but its actually a summer tyre, knowing that this gets the manufacturer past the wet pavement and braking test? Its about time these tyres were outlawed and this could happen soon.

M+S is about the physical measurements of the tyre, side-lugs etc. It is not a guarantee of performance.

Do you have any data on the grip of these tyres? The best I have is a friction coefficient range of around 0.8 from std road tyres to 1.1 for hot sticky slicks on remotely standard roads. It's not a wide range at all and nowhere near what the marketing would like you to believe.

Edited 6 August, 201213 yr by Kiwibacon