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Tread Carefully.... You know what's waiting... :sweat:

 

No disrespect to Andrew, as I'm getting along fine now, but are you getting special advertising discount?

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I honestly don't know why I bother with this place tbh, but then that would be allowing the minority spoiling it for the majority ;)

one reason must surely be because its a potential market place for your business products hence you being a sponsor. ;)

What percentage insurance increase have people seen In using these? Are the insurance companies bothered by how much the performance increases or do they set a price increased for the simple fact it's an engine mod?

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one reason must surely be because its a potential market place for your business products hence you being a sponsor. ;)

I'm also a Skoda enthusiast as well as a sponsor

Andrew,

Firstly let me apologise if you already been asked some of the questions I will list below, I started having a look through the thread however gave up at about the 3rd page.

I'm (hopefully) going to be receiving my vRS in 1 month today, I am thinking about purchasing one of the boxes from you, however I was wondering if you would be good enough to answer some simple questions?

1) caveat - this is not meant to sound cheeky however I need to ask....has there been any engine issues with the box? I.e clutches/engines letting go? (Needed to ask)

2) has the feedback mentioned anything about increased mpg?

3a) should the worst happen and the engine lets go when I'm out and about how easy is it to remove the box from the car before Skoda look at it?

3b) once the box is removed will the car just revert back to standard?

4) do you provide any warranty on the engine/box?

Thanks in advance

Col

3a) should the worst happen and the engine lets go when I'm out and about how easy is it to remove the box from the car before Skoda look at it?

3b) once the box is removed will the car just revert back to standard?

 

 

 

With a view to a possible fraud on Skoda?

 

I don't think Andrew would be involved in commenting on such a scam, should it become relevant

What percentage insurance increase have people seen In using these? Are the insurance companies bothered by how much the performance increases or do they set a price increased for the simple fact it's an engine mod?

Depends on the insurer. LV just have a straight increase no mater what the extra power incease while others like esure have 3 bands of below 10% 10-25 and above 25%

 

Admiral are competative too so are a good place to start, while some insurers won't even quote on mapped/chipped cars. There are soite sponsors who specialise in mods so the are worth a try too.

 

HTH

Depends on the insurer. LV just have a straight increase no mater what the extra power incease while others like esure have 3 bands of below 10% 10-25 and above 25%

Admiral are competative too so are a good place to start, while some insurers won't even quote on mapped/chipped cars. There are soite sponsors who specialise in mods so the are worth a try too.

HTH

I might give admiral who I currently insure with a call and take it from there.

I'm also a Skoda enthusiast as well as a sponsor

That's very clear from some of your posts hence I did say 'one reason'. ;)

It's the same as this one Steve, I honestly don't know why I bother with this place tbh, but then that would be allowing the minority spoiling it for the majority ;)

 

Well I have spent very little time on this site (comparatively) but I can see a pattern emerging. And the same names...

 

People who basically bad mouth you and then say - "Oh, don't take it the wrong way"...

 

It is patronising and hypocritical. I've said this before, but it is certainly not a welcoming environment...

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I might give admiral who I currently insure with a call and take it from there.

Give me a call before you call them :)

What percentage insurance increase have people seen In using these? Are the insurance companies bothered by how much the performance increases or do they set a price increased for the simple fact it's an engine mod?

 

Probably the best people to ask is your insurance company...

Andrew: a few pages back there was mention of the box costs £400+ but on the site at the moment it is showing as £350.10 and only £339.00 with the DTUK50 code. Is this right or am I on the wrong page (http://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/systems_available.php?id=4286)?

If it's just a temporary price drop I may just order now as it seems significantly cheaper than usual.

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Andrew: a few pages back there was mention of the box costs £400+ but on the site at the moment it is showing as £350.10 and only £339.00 with the DTUK50 code. Is this right or am I on the wrong page (http://www.diesel-performance.co.uk/systems_available.php?id=4286)?

If it's just a temporary price drop I may just order now as it seems significantly cheaper than usual.

The £80 comes off the full rrp

So CRDT is £439 -£80 so £359 plus £6.95 shipping

The crd2+ (common rail only) is £389 -£80 so £309 plus £6.95 shipping

All of the power figures/graphs relate to the CRDT

Ah my mistake I had bookmarked the wrong page! Thought I was on for a bargain lol

Ah my mistake I had bookmarked the wrong page! Thought I was on for a bargain lol

I think any reduction will be impossible to miss on this forum let alone a sizeable one...

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Some feedback from golfgtiforum.co.uk that maybe of interest to some of you

OK, here it is, done about 40 miles in it since fitment, this is the dual channel CRDT-2 box (rated 235PS)

Firstly, my car has been running a bit sh!tty in the 50 miles pre-box. Smack in the middle of a spell of DPF regenning, last night I had to give my cousin a jump-start when he flattened his battery in Newcastle City Centre last night and called me up, in prime pub-kicking out time. Spent 20 mins crawling around the 1/2 mile of road surrounding the Central train station, which made things worse and then 10 mins of 2000 rpm idling while he tried to get his sh!tty Citroen people carrier to splutter into life.

After a short spell at the Metrocentre this morning, I headed out to DTUK when Andrew confirmed he could meet me (and save me waiting for the postie on Tuesday). After getting there, Andrew fitted the box off his Skoda onto mine to see how it runs (set at 4+1, Andrews recommended top setting). The industrial estate consists of a 3/4 mile long road, and it was empty, so I did a quick spurt to 80mph and back down to sensible levels. Huge difference. Did same on the way back. Andrew then put the software onto the new box and fitted it to my car. Repeated the blast along the industrial estate, my box seemed a tiny bit better, or maybe I was just more confident in it's use. Came back, then had a chat with Andrew about TDIs we've had in the past etc (for about an hour!!!)

Firstly, I would say that I prefer this box to the TDI-tuning box I trialled - they are 2 very different animals.

The TDI-tuning box is raw and savage, some people might prefer that, but for me a sudden surge of power that causes wheelspin at 60mph in 3rd when you put your foot down is a bit of a widow-maker. At times with that box on setting 7, I felt I could quite easily James Dean the car.

The CRDT-2 has a much smoother and linear development of power - as smooth as the GTD's stock power range, but just more of it. Unlike my experiences with the TDI-tuning box, the idling was as smooth as stock - I experienced lumpy idling with the TDI-tuning box, but Buddy hadn't noticed on his. When we took my dad's TDI-tuning box off his MK5 GT 170 to trade in for his DSG GTD, his idling became smoother.

The car ran at the hot end of the spectrum for the 40 miles (24 miles home and 16 miles going to pick the missus up from work) I drove around on after fitting the box (minimum 95C, but staying at 102C for a good 10 mins, and then being happy to be sat around 97-98C for most of the time). I wasn't sure whether the running hot was down to me booting it a bit, or whether it was a continuation of the DPF regen that had been going on. I do think my stock GTD was running on the cold side, as if this was the main cause of my slightly poor mpg and frequent DPF regen.

A few days will tell if the boxed GTD has a preference for running at 95-97C, as my Scirocco did, if so, I might see my mpg and regen interval improve on that score alone.

The car feels complete now, like it was meant to be. At stock i'm feeling it is no faster than my Scirocco 170TDI.

Got onto the A19 at Killingworth, up a long and steep sliproad from the road below. Me and a Civic Type R got on the 2 lane sliproad at the same time and I annihilated the R. It was trying very hard, but not even close. Those things have no torque so maybe a standard GTD would outdo them up a hill (just).

Got home and 90 mins later I went to pick up the missus from work (overtime). On my rolling start run onto the coast road, for which I have measured previous cars performance against by the speed at which I pass a sign, I managed 88mph (it was quiet and I took it straight back down to 75 ), compared to 81mph average on my GTD and 83mph average on my Scirocco.

The other thing that seems to have improved my drive is pull away from a standstill. The worst thing about the auto handbrake is that I always pull away ultra cautiously until after the autohold has fully let go - it feels like if you give it some for a quick getaway then you'll stall (it probably won't but it feels that way). My car doesn't feel like that any more, the car feels like it'll easily overcome the bite of the autohold for a better getaway. You've got to have a bit of restraint in 2nd - seems the easiest point of an acceleration move to wheelspin if you're not careful.

Over the moon with the box, and on the assumption that I won't get any more regens than I get already (time will tell), i'll have no regrets at all.

I reset my MFD "since start" mpg reading when I left DTUK. It had been an abysmal 41mpg due to all the regenning which followed the previous night's events. By the time I got home (24 miles later), it was up to 55mpg. I suspect that like the TDI-tuning.co.uk box, the indicated mpg will be somewhere in the region of 15% optimistic at the higher settings, making an actual 47mpg far more likely (about what I would have expected from stock with as much hooning around as I did from a hot start).

I will keep you updated with actual mpg/regen info. In fact I might top the car back up tomorrow just so we can see a "whole tank" mpg that isn't biased by the sh!tty run I had between filling up and fitting the box.

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Great read this thread is and my sister is picking up a 184 leon st manual early next month (extras massively increased build time  :( ) so will be in touch to get my hands on the CRDT-2 kit for her. 

Cant seem to open the later fitting instructions so quick question as to what has to be removed in order to fit the box these days, as obviously she will have to remove it before service etc. and although i can pop over and do it, just dont wanna be to long as she can be a right grumpy bleep on times when pushed for time (which is pretty much all the time lol)?

 

Cant seem to open the later fitting instructions so quick question as to what has to be removed in order to fit the box these days, as obviously she will have to remove it before service etc. 

 

Why?  Surely you're not going to try to blame seat and still try to claim on your warranty if things fall off or go pop because of your chosen addition to the car?

Who wouln't ?

Oh dear. Not this again!

 

Great read this thread is and my sister is picking up a 184 leon st manual early next month (extras massively increased build time  :( ) so will be in touch to get my hands on the CRDT-2 kit for her. 

Cant seem to open the later fitting instructions so quick question as to what has to be removed in order to fit the box these days, as obviously she will have to remove it before service etc. and although i can pop over and do it, just dont wanna be to long as she can be a right grumpy bleep on times when pushed for time (which is pretty much all the time lol)?

 

Only an induction pipe and air filter carrier, a pair of pliers are all thats required, or so I am informed.

Regards

T

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Great read this thread is and my sister is picking up a 184 leon st manual early next month (extras massively increased build time :( ) so will be in touch to get my hands on the CRDT-2 kit for her.

Cant seem to open the later fitting instructions so quick question as to what has to be removed in order to fit the box these days, as obviously she will have to remove it before service etc. and although i can pop over and do it, just dont wanna be to long as she can be a right grumpy bleep on times when pushed for time (which is pretty much all the time lol)?

No tools required to fit the kit on the 2.0 184ps..

https://db.tt/4mls56RH

We ran the car again today on the same dyno and again map 4 plus 1..

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Cheers for the useful info lads

 

PS I hope everyone who preaches about the grey areas (yes we are all entitled to our opinion) is as squeaky clean themselves and practices what they preach. e.g. if you have made any slight modifications to your car please make sure you go through every little term and condition on the contract you agreed when buying the car and if there is any little discrepancy don't even think about taking the car back to the dealership for a recall or issue, however mundane :rofl: . Together we will make this world a better more trustworthy place because all of these big global companies are so open and honest to all of us!! :angel:   

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