Checkout Autocar's Best car in the wet test in 2014.

I havent seen it, but id imagine the GTR didnt win.

Its a beast in the wet. 4 wheel powersliding if you gun it in a straight line. Just spins all four with ease.

But you wouldnt wanna drive it fast in the wet. The rubber isnt much good tbf. Needs to get up to temp like bike tyres do i guess.

My daily commute is usually in a line of cars nose to tail all plodding along at about 45/55mph so not much chance of fun :(

Pulled out and nailed a few cars on one more than one time only to find 3 miles further on they all catch up and I'm stuck in a line of cars again, plodding.

So Eco mode suits this type of driving :(

When I get to junctions a quick pull back on the shifter puts it in sport mode gearbox wise and allows for a much better throttle response to get out of the faster junctions I regularly come across, part from that it's back into boring Eco :(

Edited 10 September, 201510 yr by Defenderben

Fortunately Ben I don't have that daily grind of a commute to work,so no doubt over my 12k miles that has helped with my consumption performance.

Having said that you can still exploit the power ,have fun and yet still achieve acceptable results (Race or Eco mode)by having the right driving style,this will always be key to getting the best out of whatever motor you are piloting.

Keith I'm shocked you are averaging 36mpg over 12k miles. Stop babying it and get your foot down! Lol ;-)

Tom,

I'm not , in fact bloody happy with that. Regularly exploiting R performance ,trying to stay legal but always aim to be smooth in achieving and extracting performance in the broadest sense. Perhaps your extra 2 cylinder make it difficult to achieve similar results. Or may be its just those heavy toetector shoes you wear Tom.

Continue to enjoy your motor as I do mine.

Above all have safe fun!!

Edited 11 September, 201510 yr by vrskeith

Tom,

I'm not , in fact bloody happy with that. Regularly exploiting R performance ,trying to stay legal but always aim to be smooth in achieving and extracting performance in the broadest sense. Perhaps your extra 2 cylinder make it difficult to achieve similar results. Or may be its just those heavy toetector shoes you wear Tom.

Continue to enjoy your motor as I do mine.

Above all have safe fun!!

I'm not particularly heavy footed but do enjoy the performance on tap whenever possible. My M135i is currently averaging around 26-27mpg which I'm entirely happy with. Wouldn't expect any more from it given my driving style and routes.

The reason I say I'm shocked is that a quick search on the R forum reveals your 36mpg longterm average appears to be rather better than anyone else manages there ;-)

http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/8397-real-mpg/?hl=%20fuel%20%20economy

So either you are exaggerating your MPG claims or are driving in a very skilled super economical manner (I.e babying it) lol!

Exception to the rule,you got it Tom.

However, my accuracy and honesty is another quality I portray and therefore hope is not being questioned.

Perhaps I don't fit the profile of a typical vwroc member.lol.

I'm not particularly heavy footed but do enjoy the performance on tap whenever possible. My M135i is currently averaging around 26-27mpg which I'm entirely happy with. Wouldn't expect any more from it given my driving style and routes.

The reason I say I'm shocked is that a quick search on the R forum reveals your 36mpg longterm average appears to be rather better than anyone else manages there ;-)

http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/8397-real-mpg/?hl=%20fuel%20%20economy

So either you are exaggerating your MPG claims or are driving in a very skilled super economical manner (I.e babying it) lol!

Tom,

In the past you have mentioned that 40mpg is doable in the M135i. Was wondering have you ever got anywhere near that in your leisurely trips out with family on decent road and conditions.

Edited 11 September, 201510 yr by vrskeith

Exception to the rule,you got it Tom.

However, my accuracy and honesty is another quality I portray and therefore hope is not being questioned.

Perhaps I don't fit the profile of a typical vwroc member.lol.

It wouldn't be unheard of for folk to exaggerate or tell the odd little white lie about their car on the 'tinternet. That said if you are adamant those figures are legit than that's good enough for me ;-).

Perhaps you should invest in a baseball cap to blend in on vwroc :-) (joke hehe)

Maybe get your 'R' in fuelly Keith, it's currently smashing all the other R's on there ;-)

http://www.fuelly.com/car/volkswagen/golf/2015?engineconfig_id=13&bodytype_id=3&submodel_id=138

Remember and change Units at the top to 'UK'.

 

Based on 9 vehicles is just a little to few to get any real idea.

Then there are Manuals like vrskeith or cars with  DSG

 

Surely the MK7 Golfs over a year or 2 in the UK are going to be averaging 32 mpg or so.

Tom,

In the past you have mentioned that 40mpg is doable in the M135i. Was wondering have you ever got anywhere near that in your leisurely trips out with family on decent road and conditions.

I have got to that figure on the rare occasion I've sat at a cruise for a sustained period within the legal limit on a motorway. I say rare as a) I've not got the patience to do that often and we have no motorway in Cornwall lol.

Leisurely trips out with the family locally have never returned 40mpg. Never in my wildest dreams would I expect it to tbh. I didn't buy the car for its economy. If I was worried about fuel cost I'd have stuck with my 120d :-)

When I testdrove an M135i prior to buying that car did 18mpg when I was beating it. Did a second test driving normally and got 21mpg.... So I'm actually quite chuffed with how mine is doing! :-)

Tom,

Never bothered with Fuelly,as mine is always tank neck fill against mileage covered, also calibrated my computer accuracy factor against that.

Suggest I'm not the only Briskoda member getting these sort of returns out of this power unit,as Kenny is getting similar out of his S3.

But perhaps he and me are just old farts. Innit Bro!!

Edited 11 September, 201510 yr by vrskeith

Remember and change Units at the top to 'UK'.

Based on 9 vehicles just a little few to get any real idea.

Then there are Manuals like vrskeith or cars with DSG

Surely the MK7 Golfs over a year or 2 in the UK are going to be averaging 32 mpg or so.

The link I posted should be showing UK mpg. The best car was 29.2 I think? I'll freely admit 9 cars isn't a great scientific sample tho lol :-)

Similar figures with greater number of cars on VWROC. I'm sure 32mpg might be perfectly doable, Keith's 36mpg just struck me as somewhat of an outlier....

Us old guys know how to hypermile so that we have enough fuel available when we want to be a bit sporting,

it gets the average up if the higher figure is achieved more regularly.

 

300 hp cars are only using half or less the majority of the time or maybe not even 1/3rd of available power to go at 70mph,

so surely they can achieve the MPG of a 150ps 4 cylinder engine on UK roads.

Even if the R version is a bit porkier.

After all a smaller engine petrol Golf even with 4 adults and luggage can easily average 35mpg.

The link I posted should be showing UK mpg. The best car was 29.2 I think? I'll freely admit 9 cars isn't a great scientific sample tho lol :-)

Similar figures with greater number of cars on VWROC. I'm sure 32mpg might be perfectly doable, Keith's 36mpg just struck me as somewhat of an outlier....[/quote

So 12% better than average. Hardly excessively Brill.

So 12% better than average. Hardly excessively Brill.

Sorry Keith where do you get an average of 32mpg for Golf R owners in the UK?

My reference to 32mpg was indicating what I'd imagine to be one of the best real world figures achievable over a longterm ownership (based on the vwroc people) rather than an average owner figure :-)

Us old guys know how to hypermile so that we have enough fuel available when we want to be a bit sporting,

it gets the average up if the higher figure is achieved more regularly.

300 hp cars are only using half or less the majority of the time or maybe not even 1/3rd of available power to go at 70mph,

so surely they can achieve the MPG of a 150ps 4 cylinder engine on UK roads.

Even if the R version is a bit porkier.

After all a smaller engine petrol Golf even with 4 adults and luggage can easily average 35mpg.

Youd have to plant your foot everywhere possible to get 35mpg out of a small petrol golf imo. Do that in an R and i doubt youd see 15 or 20mpg tbh.

Its all relative though. Nobody buys a 300bhp car and expects high mpg numbers. You get either or usually dont you. Power, or economy.

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Sorry Keith where do you get an average of 32mpg for Golf R owners in the UK?[/quote

Used George's estimate quoted earlier as a guide, not looking to split hairs,just trying to put into perspective.

Incidentally I never use CC,just the correct mode for the conditons and an educated right foot plus a reasonable amount of experience/common sense I would hope.

As a quick rule of thumb you can usually look at the Manufacturers Official figures and the 'Urban Cycle' figure and expect to be bettering that as an average, 

but just from the 9 cars on Fuelly they are not even getting that.

 

There are 3 or 5 door & Manual or DSG to take into consideration, 

but then averages obviously are looked at not knowing if cars are solo occupant or multi.

 

It will be interesting to see what the Heavier Golf Estates which are all DSG get once on Fuelly.

ame="vrskeith" post="4376166" timestamp="1441986550"]

Sorry Keith where do you get an average of 32mpg for Golf R owners in the UK?[/quote

Used George's estimate quoted earlier as a guide, not looking to split hairs,just trying to put into perspective.

Incidentally I never use CC,just the correct mode for the conditons and an educated right foot plus a reasonable amount of experience/common sense I would hope.

No problem, let's leave all this mpg talk at that, it's a little boring for other readers I suspect haha :-)

I have got to that figure on the rare occasion I've sat at a cruise for a sustained period within the legal limit on a motorway. I say rare as a) I've not got the patience to do that often and we have no motorway in Cornwall lol.

Leisurely trips out with the family locally have never returned 40mpg. Never in my wildest dreams would I expect it to tbh. I didn't buy the car for its economy. If I was worried about fuel cost I'd have stuck with my 120d :-)

When I testdrove an M135i prior to buying that car did 18mpg when I was beating it. Did a second test driving normally and got 21mpg.... So I'm actually quite chuffed with how mine is doing! :-)

So Tom you achieved 16% improvement when driving"normally" then.

Talking MPG figures about cars with 'R' or 'M' in their name is just plain wrong! You should be ashamed of yourselves!!!

 

And no, M-sport doesn't count!

 

I want to hear more 'booting it' stories and how these cars are to live with. As on the fine day that I buy myself a hyper-hatch, MPG will be the last thing on my mind.

So Tom you achieved 16% improvement when driving"normally" then.

Yes one off trips trying to eek out the best possible economy then I get higher figures than can be achieved when blasting about having fun. But that applies to all cars really. My original point is that if one is returning that figure over 12000 miles or so the car will be being driven gently/sedately for a disproportionately large amount of time (.for a performance car, and purely imho) that is all.

Anyhow that really is my last word on the MPG front. I'm on holiday and off to grab another beer at the pool bar lol!

Yes one off trips trying to eek out the best possible economy then I get higher figures than can be achieved when blasting about having fun. But that applies to all cars really. My original point is that if one is returning that figure over 12000 miles or so the car will be being driven gently/sedately for a disproportionately large amount of time (.for a performance car, and purely imho) that is all.

Anyhow that really is my last word on the MPG front. I'm on holiday and off to grab another beer at the pool bar lol!

Talking MPG whilst youre on holiday.

Come on mate. You should be ashamed of yourself

Tom, Amen!! Enjoy your holiday.

I'm not particularly heavy footed but do enjoy the performance on tap whenever possible. My M135i is currently averaging around 26-27mpg which I'm entirely happy with. Wouldn't expect any more from it given my driving style and routes.

The reason I say I'm shocked is that a quick search on the R forum reveals your 36mpg longterm average appears to be rather better than anyone else manages there ;-)

http://www.vwroc.com/forums/topic/8397-real-mpg/?hl=%20fuel%20%20economy

So either you are exaggerating your MPG claims or are driving in a very skilled super economical manner (I.e babying it) lol!

To be fair my mpg is roughly the same. That said 75% of my mileage is commuting so helps my mpg. The rest drags it down