No, you're not looking for EA189, that isn't the engine code, that's the engine family designation. Go to Petr's link, find all the engine codes (from that family) that are used in your model.

Then see if you have a matching engine code.

 

For Octavia II for example: engine codes CAYC, CBAA, CBAB and CEGA are all EA189 engines, according to the info on that page.

Free remap?

I already have mapped out, why would I want to go back to "original"

I had my Yeti serviced by the local VW dealership and they are completely non-commital as to what is going to happen......didn't want to talk about it at all as they haven't been told anything yet.....not surprised.

A complete engine transplant would be nice.

I wonder if an existing 'shell' has had the latest engine simply slotted in on the production line.......just dreamin'

There's a vw board member called Olaf Lies.

Skoda have not even acknowledged their participation in the "emissions scandal" on their website.

VW have announced that a recall will take place, but this is likely to take a significant amount of time.

Always a fan of Skoda, changes over the last few years, have led me to conclude that Skoda is just another mainstream car company that has little concern for customers. Disappointed.

Skoda are a client who are just as much in the dark as the rest of us.

Somewhat out of date there. The UK specification of sulphur is currently 10ppm. Not to mention the fact that it apparently went from 500 ppm to 150 ppm on 1 January 2000 and again to 50 ppm in mid 1999. Somehow it managed a jump backwards in time...

And I understand sulphur provides the lubricity for the HPFP which, when lowered, makes them vulnerable to failure.

The diesel engine is not what it used to be ...both good and bad.

So when peeps go back to have their car 'fixed' will they then notice a drop in performance and a decrease in mpg? Sound like compensation is due too. I'm assuming that VW might make it a warranty issue to have the map fixed.

Apparently the German govt has given VW a deadline of 7 Oct to announce what exactly they are going to do to fix all cars affected.

Not much sleep for the software engineers or others for that matter.

So when peeps go back to have their car 'fixed' will they then notice a drop in performance and a decrease in mpg? Sound like compensation is due too. I'm assuming that VW might make it a warranty issue to have the map fixed.

 

VW either has to put on exhaust treatment that actually works and/or a EMU remap which stops the cylinder gases getting so hot that the Nitrogen-Oxygen association happens ie yes reduce the boost pressure and/or enrich fuel mixture to drop temperature and stop the NO being produced in the first place.

 

Taking out the defeat device is pointless unless each car is being emission retested which is doubtful.  So new emission compliant remap or refund or exchange if they cannot retrospectively fit SCR or better CAT.    Probably be similar or better mpg but acceleration dulled, those with DSG would need a remap for that part of the system too.  

Most of the affected cars have space for the SCR gubbins

There's a vw board member called Olaf Lies.

If he's German, it would be pronounced "lees" so it's only funny when written down

If he's German, it would be pronounced "lees" so it's only funny when written down

 

 

Don't spoil the magic

Most of the affected cars have space for the SCR gubbins

There are two aspects to this

1/ meeting the actual emmissions standards .......probably easier than

2/ meeting the buyers expectations in terms of power whilst retaining economy at a cost to the company that doesn't send them

broke........nigh on impossible

What a nightmare!

And one more thing - someone discussed the information about the involvement of EA188 and EA288. We got the same message directly from Wolfbsurg, so it is not a hoax. BUT they said those are among "other engines" using the software ineffectively, probably in some sleeping form or how to call it. Only EA189 should be using it actively. Trust VW these days, but... if this is correct, then there is nothing to solve in case of EA188 and EA288.

hahaha... sleeping mod up to first emission test...

They've got time to remap Euro6 engines without telling owners... on first service...

That would be my cars then (don't forget Lancia)

Oops, yup. How could I forget Lancia? Had all three manufacturers, and then moved to a much better car.. a Peugeot 604. Oh, hold on....

Oops, yup. How could I forget Lancia? Had all three manufacturers, and then moved to a much better car.. a Peugeot 604. Oh, hold on....

604!

I share your pain.......REALY OT now though.

Another Green Car Reports contribution (including the German weekly newspaper Bild am Sonntag and the U.S. Automotive News)

Apparently, according to Automotive News, VW rejected the urea (AdBlue) route because they calculated it would cost an extra $US335 per vehicle at a time when they were in 'cost recovery' mode.

In hindsight (my speciality) how cheap was that in comparison to what they now face in legal defence manoeuvres over the coming years, without any other considerations.

Bean counters - fail

Causing -

Engineers. - fail

Edited 30 September, 201510 yr by Ryeman

Another Green Car Reports contribution (including the German weekly newspaper Bild am Sonntag and the U.S. Automotive News)

Apparently, according to Automotive News, VW rejected the urea (AdBlue) route because they calculated it would cost an extra $US335 per vehicle at a time when they were in 'cost recovery' mode.

In hindsight (my speciality) how cheap was that in comparison to what they now face in legal defence manoeuvres over the coming years, without any other considerations.

Bean counters - fail

Causing -

Engineers. - fail

 

Well put.  The margins are often this tight ie a few percent, add currency fluctuations even when hedged and it can be a very tight margined industry which is why some of these big car brands want to move to design work and use toll manufacturing.

 

Hopefully a lesson to big corporates, there hae been enough of them you would think, BP and Enron in their own way, cheat in quite a relatively small way can have company wrecking consequences, accounting scams, sub standard materials, evading legal tests, save a couple hundred dollars a car, £100M overall, and the cost to the company can be tens of billions.  A lesson and warning for many.

 

I am probably being biased but I think the engineers probably did what asked and it is accountants that said do it but then it is back to the old argument about who said do it and who did it, all are giulty of fraudulent behaviour and deserve legal penalties.

CFFB is definitely in, we mentioned it in general list of affeceted VW engines:

http://www.autoforum.cz/zivot-ridice/vw-tdi-ea-189-mate-v-aute-motor-co-lze-skody-jsou-jich-plne/obrazek/2

We were not sure if it was used in Skodas, but it apparently was. There is plenty of almost identical "C" engines, all should be affected... It is hard to find them all, some were used e.g. only in model year of Seat Exeo etc.

And one more thing - someone discussed the information about the involvement of EA188 and EA288. We got the same message directly from Wolfbsurg, so it is not a hoax. BUT they said those are among "other engines" using the software ineffectively, probably in some sleeping form or how to call it. Only EA189 should be using it actively. Trust VW these days, but... if this is correct, then there is nothing to solve in case of EA188 and EA288.

I can see it, yes. Dykujem. (Hope, I spelled it right.) Greetings from Carniola.

1.2 million Skodas is the figure mentioned.

Volkswagen Group,  In the UK once there is an announcement or Letters sent out.

Is it to be a

 RECALL,

or SERVICE CAMPAIGN,

or VOLUNTARY CAMPAIGN .

 

The Media is reporting that Owners will be informed by letters, but it is not Safety Critical.

 

So if No DVSA Recall (VOSA as was)

How is to be done in the UK because it is not Safety Critical that means that VW / Audi / Skoda / Seat / Porsche in the UK 

do not get 'Registered Keepers' details from the DVLA,

they just have the records they have on their Computer System of who they might have sold or leased cars to,

but if cars are bought out with the Official Dealership Network or not Serviced at a VWG Official Workshop.

 

The various Magazine Editors, Journalists & Business / Technology Presenters in the UK seem never to mention this on SKY, BBC, & the likes of Autocar / Haymarket Media or Auto Express / Dennis Publishing that have been

appearing and speaking in the past 24 hours.

 

http://autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/64097/everything-you-need-know-about-car-recalls

Auto Express from 2013, so it is not like they do not know, so odd they do not point out 

about VOSA now DVSA & DVLA / DfT and Registered Keepers Contact Details.

 

http://dft.gov.uk/vosa/apps/recalls/default.asp?tx=

http://gov.uk/check-if-a-vehicle-has-been-recalled

 

 

We will soon hear or see anyway what VW UK say.

SKODA 'Recall Actions'  VIN Checker.

http://master.skoda-auto.com/mini-apps/recall-actions

 

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VW UK  Recall Checker. * But 'Safety Related'*  & the Emissions is not a Safety Issue!

http://volkswagen.co.uk/owners/recalls

 

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BBC

http://bbc.co.uk/news/business-34397426

 

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Auto News

http://autonews.com/section/BREAKING

Business's capitalizing ?

 

At a cost!

 

http://www.topgear.com/car-news/future-tech/tesla-boss-vw-scandal-proves-diesels-dead-evs-are-future

Having an affected car, why would I want the remedial work done?

Stuart

Having an affected car, why would I want the remedial work done?

Stuart

Beats me also!

The only issue for me is resale, which, without a cash compensation, means you're locked into VW products, which may, or may not, suite.