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7 minutes ago, DC79 said:

VW used it first before Skoda got it - see the Golf 1.5 TSI EVO. The VW T-ROC forums all have the same 1.5 TSI complaints as the Karok has here.

Wasnt the Golf 1.5 EVO largely a paper launch, ages before it actually went on sale.....

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24 minutes ago, DC79 said:

VW used it first before Skoda got it - see the Golf 1.5 TSI EVO. The VW T-ROC forums all have the same 1.5 TSI complaints as the Karok has here.

It only produced about 123bhp in the Golf because VW concentrated on economy and not performance initially. The 148bhp HICCUP version came later.:notme:

How many are actually experiencing the issue?

 

Half a dozen Karoq owners, another dozen T-Roc and Golf owners?

 

I appreciate not all affected owners are posting on forums, but is the scale of the issue as big as we think?

Looks like enough with issues or reporting them to rattle the VW Group cage finally.

 

Enough that a Resolutions Manager at Skoda UK has the word on the street / online that it is being looked at.

Silver10111 - Who knows, but only a very small proportion of owners visit forums. I'm so glad that I'm one that does!

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The 1.5 TSI DSG Kodiaq's are just landing on UK shores now, will be interesting to see if the Karoq's bigger brother suffers with the same issue when the manual arrives.

I've looked on AutoTrader tonight and specified Škoda Karoq 1.5 Tsi petrol manual 2018 used... there's over 70 vehicles for sale there with various mileage ranging from 150 miles on clock to 5k 6k 7k. It does make me wonder ;-}.... why would you get rid off car like that?

5 minutes ago, Xtra2 said:

I've looked on AutoTrader tonight and specified Škoda Karoq 1.5 Tsi petrol manual 2018 used... there's over 70 vehicles for sale there with various mileage ranging from 150 miles on clock to 5k 6k 7k. It does make me wonder ;-}.... why would you get rid off car like that?

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-6488891/The-10-used-cars-quickest-sell-Britain-revealed.html

 

Karoq at no.3 in the used chart

 

6 minutes ago, Xtra2 said:

I've looked on AutoTrader tonight and specified Škoda Karoq 1.5 Tsi petrol manual 2018 used... there's over 70 vehicles for sale there with various mileage ranging from 150 miles on clock to 5k 6k 7k. It does make me wonder ;-}.... why would you get rid off car like that?

Ours has done 10,700 miles since January and is not for sale just because you have to give it 2,000revs pulling away in 1st gear. Not exactly unbearable just a quaint characteristic (I sound like a Skoda Dealer sorry).:giggle:

Mine has done the kangarooing but not consistent. I've had to adjust my driving style and give more revs when pulling away. It's a lovely car but it's the most difficult car I've hard to try and drive smoothly in. I've also never stalled a car so much since learning to drive! When lifting off the clutch, when you reach the top of the pedal, is when it seems to go lumpy and feel like it's going to kangaroo. 

Loads 'used' & low miles advertised for sale because loads went out as Demonstrators, and Skoda usual get some Fleet users to have them so that the First Registrations looks good.

'Simply Clever' of Skoda UK but not so if these cars are not going to sell well as 'Ex Management' etc and the demand is not great for them.

 

As to 'quick sellers',  Skoda is not a volume seller in the UK and getting sold  what they had available used while people were getting told how great the

model is and pricing them to sell works for a while. 

It is easy to fix numbers as VW Finance owned lots of the cars if not all from New and then 'selling' to themselves or traders / dealerships is a sale.

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2 minutes ago, Sean191 said:

Mine has done the kangarooing but not consistent. I've had to adjust my driving style and give more revs when pulling away. It's a lovely car but it's the most difficult car I've hard to try and drive smoothly in. I've also never stalled a car so much since learning to drive! When lifting off the clutch, when you reach the top of the pedal, is when it seems to go lumpy and feel like it's going to kangaroo. 

True story last Xmas one month before we picked up the wife's Karoq  our guests were treated to Ostrich and Kangaroo for Xmas dinner. Payback's a BIT-CH.:angel:

16 hours ago, Sean191 said:

Mine has done the kangarooing but not consistent. I've had to adjust my driving style and give more revs when pulling away. It's a lovely car but it's the most difficult car I've hard to try and drive smoothly in. I've also never stalled a car so much since learning to drive! When lifting off the clutch, when you reach the top of the pedal, is when it seems to go lumpy and feel like it's going to kangaroo. 

It's Ok to change your driving style when you have the time to do it. But if commuting and you have to move away quickly at busy islands etc. you don't have the luxury!

 

And the last thing you want is a car hesitating!

On 22/12/2018 at 17:23, xman said:

it doesn't account for those who say they don't have the fault and the forum member who didn't have the fault until he had an update installed.

 

Automatics can disguise lots of marginal issues, remember that DSG petrols also get a DMF whereas manuals have an SMF.

 

To correct an earlier statement of mine, after further research, it turns out that when vehicles have ACT engines, all are fitted with DMF, though I'm unsure if the same DMF is used in DSG equipped cars as manual equipped ones.

After trying to adjust my driving style (I've been driving well over 40 years) trying 97 octane petrol, turning off various auto options i returned mine to the dealers who stated that the factory were aware of the issue but had no fix available. On line chat with Skoda UK said it would be escalated to a manager who will phone me - I'll see what transpires - the problem seems to be worse when the external temperature drops and when really cold is becoming a safety issue. 

We got rid off our Škoda Karoq...lost nearly three grand on it. Very expensive "characteristic". We'll never buy Škoda again as long as I live!

I'm surprised that there has been nothing in the motoring press ad it seems to involve Seat VW as well as Skoda.

26 minutes ago, Xtra2 said:

We got rid off our Škoda Karoq...lost nearly three grand on it. Very expensive "characteristic". We'll never buy Škoda again as long as I live!

I'd love rid of mine but I'm stuck with it for the full three years after Lex's 'independent' report :@ they helpfully suggested I ask around early termination charges if I wish to return it, can't see my fleet dept going for that! 

Very frustrating what's needed in my opinion is to put pressure on VAG to get the issue sorted. Autoexpress or Watchdog need to pick up the story maybe. My dealer is brilliant, the car itself great but the Kangaroo is driving me around the bend, albeit erratically.

I'm also still waiting on Skoda to put in writing that it is not a safety issue, they promised weeks ago that they would do this, still nothing.......

 

 

Are you people getting the kangarooing upon reversing too?

 

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6 hours ago, agedbriar said:

Are you people getting the kangarooing upon reversing too?

 

Mine pulls away beautifully in reverse

3 hours ago, Markyj said:

Mine pulls away beautifully in reverse

I was thinking that an engine design flow would manifest itself when pulling away in reverse too, being that a similar engine load pattern at a similar gear ratio.
Fixing a software issue shouldn't be a problem, but it could increase emission values.

"Fixing a software issue shouldn't be a problem, but it could increase emission values."

 

Ah - there could be a fix by the second quarter of 2019 ............ by which time, the UK will be out of the EU. Mmm?

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