Got some audio clips from the engine bay…

On 08/07/2023 at 22:40, Bap33 said:

Quite impatient to see your Nurburgring track day video! 😃

 

There it is.... 

 

At my last 90k service, it was noted that the upper timing  cover was sweating/misting oil, which requires a new replacement upper timing cover assembly with new seals, as well as replacing the camshaft adjuster magnet with an updated unit.

 

 

In the meantime, I changed the oil filler cap on my 220 Superb to a newer revision cap (yellow bottom) as the sweating/misting oil seemed to b concentrated around the cap.

 

Old: 06K 103 485 A

New: 06K 103 485 D

 

 

 

 

After a week of use, there is no more oil misting around the oil cap.

 

 

Don't know if it's because the new oil cap has fresh seals/rubber, or because it is indeed a revised version, though I couldn't pick out any design changes between the two caps.

Edited 8 August, 20232 yr by JR RS

@KeteCantek Thanks. I would love to do the same one day.

I don’t know whether I´ve seen too many videos of crashes at the Nurburgring or if it’s real life. I would fear discovering a crashed car at the exit of a blind corner and being unable to avoid it…

As you say, first victory is to exit the ring without damage on the car. 😉

@Bap33 yes it is always a concern with blind corners. Every second on the ring is a risk, even going slow as someone could still go into you. 

 

Still as a car enthusiast, I think it's a risk worth taking (with mitigation) to at least do a lap and live through it. I would definitely do it again, even with my current not for that purpose car. If you love Belgian beer...Fill the car up on the way back. I got lucky and managed to get some Westvleteren Trappist beer. Happy to share tips/my experience further with anyone. Just DM to avoid going way off topic here😂

Got my air con recharged, what a difference. Car is 5 years old  also noticed a leak under the bonnet, looks like something to do with alternator. Is this possible? 

1 minute ago, Macsamillion said:

Got my air con recharged, what a difference. Car is 5 years old  also noticed a leak under the bonnet, looks like something to do with alternator. Is this possible? 

I don't think it will be the alternator - it has no oil or water to leak. My guess would be water pump. Mine developed a very small leak last year & it's a common problem on this engine. Be prepared for a big bill because they will need to change the pump, pump housing & the thermostat as well. 

9 minutes ago, Colin170CR said:

I don't think it will be the alternator - it has no oil or water to leak. My guess would be water pump. Mine developed a very small leak last year & it's a common problem on this engine. Be prepared for a big bill because they will need to change the pump, pump housing & the thermostat as well. 

OK thanks, have cleaned it up and will monitor. Since I paid off my PCP things are starting to break 😂

15 hours ago, Colin170CR said:

I don't think it will be the alternator - it has no oil or water to leak. My guess would be water pump. Mine developed a very small leak last year & it's a common problem on this engine. Be prepared for a big bill because they will need to change the pump, pump housing & the thermostat as well. 

Yep, it was staining and slight damp on the alternator which alerted the indy who looks after the 280, to the leaking pump; prepare yourself for a big bill. 

Changed the plastic aero undertray to a longer version, which in theory should help with better airflow underneath the car.

Item #1 in the Reference image below.

 

Will b interesting to c wat it does to the engine temps, and fuel economy, if anything.

 

Comes with a fitting kit (screws & bolts).

 

No cutting, modifications, or special brackets required.

 

Remove old, and put in new.

Car needs to b on jacks up front, or up on a hoist.

 

Part No.: 5Q0825236Q (has now been superceded by 5Q0825236N)

 

 

Next I'm getting the centre exhaust tunnel cover too. Item# 2 in the Reference image below.

The Superb has the slim/short version of it already.

5Q0825229C is the longer version.

 

The rest of the under trays, minus #6a and #6b, my Superb already has from factory.

 

Topside:-

 

Underside:-

 

Overlay comparison:-

 

 

Reference:-

Edited 14 August, 20232 yr by JR RS

Our 280 has the longer tray, which I presume therefore, is standard, as I had to remove it to install the RaceChip. Don’t know if it’s a European figment, or an L&K or 280 standard fit but on there it is. 

Edited 14 August, 20232 yr by numskull

4 hours ago, JR RS said:

Changed the plastic aero undertray to a longer version, which in theory should help with better airflow underneath the car.

Item #1 in the Reference image below.

 

Will b interesting to c wat it does to the engine temps, and fuel economy, if anything.

 

Comes with a fitting kit (screws & bolts).

 

No cutting, modifications, or special brackets required.

 

Remove old, and put in new.

Car needs to b on jacks up front, or up on a hoist.

 

Part No.: 5Q0825236Q (has now been superceded by 5Q0825236N)

 

 

Next I'm getting the centre exhaust tunnel cover too. Item# 2 in the Reference image below.

The Superb has the slim/short version of it already.

5Q0825229C is the longer version.

 

The rest of the under trays, minus #6a and #6b, my Superb already has from factory.

 

Topside:-

 

Underside:-

 

Overlay comparison:-

 

 

Reference:-

I guess this is classed as the Rough Road package? Do you have the link and part numbers for all the parts in the illustration?

5 hours ago, JR RS said:

Changed the plastic aero undertray to a longer version, which in theory should help with better airflow underneath the car.

Item #1 in the Reference image below.

 

Will b interesting to c wat it does to the engine temps, and fuel economy, if anything.

 

Comes with a fitting kit (screws & bolts).

 

No cutting, modifications, or special brackets required.

 

Remove old, and put in new.

Car needs to b on jacks up front, or up on a hoist.

 

Part No.: 5Q0825236Q (has now been superceded by 5Q0825236N)

 

 

Next I'm getting the centre exhaust tunnel cover too. Item# 2 in the Reference image below.

The Superb has the slim/short version of it already.

5Q0825229C is the longer version.

 

The rest of the under trays, minus #6a and #6b, my Superb already has from factory.

 

Topside:-

 

Underside:-

 

Overlay comparison:-

 

 

Reference:-

Wonder if anyone has fitted nr 1 and 6a & b to 1.5 TSI DADA engine MY2019? Does it fit?

5 hours ago, numskull said:

Our 280 has the longer tray, which I presume therefore, is standard, as I had to remove it to install the RaceChip. Don’t know if it’s a European figment, or an L&K or 280 standard fit but on there it is. 

 

U sure about that?

Can u see/access ur oil pan from underneath, without removing the under tray?

 

As far as I know this only came with particular diesel models in the VWAG group got it.

The petrol models only got the short version, including the Golf R, which the Superb 280 uses the same engine/drivetrain.

....unless u have the Rough Road package which comes standard on the Scout and Alltrack models.

Edited 14 August, 20232 yr by JR RS

17 minutes ago, JR RS said:

 

U sure about that?

Can u see/access ur oil pan from underneath, without removing the under tray?

 

As far as I know this only came with particular diesel models in the VWAG group got it.

The petrol models only got the short version, including the Golf R, which the Superb 280 uses the same engine/drivetrain.

 

I have the same long under tray here waiting to be fitted by my local garage, I can't get down and under the car at my age like I used to, so I'm just waiting for a phone call when they can fit me in. It should have been already been fitted as standard on my diesel but when the dealer took delivery from Skoda fleet operations at the end of its lease, the tray was missing so the dealer has sent me a replacement to be fitted locally. If I want to drive 300 miles round trip they would fit it for me, but screw that, it would cost me more in fuel than the garage will charge me in labour.

6 minutes ago, Graham Butcher said:

I have the same long under tray here waiting to be fitted by my local garage, I can't get down and under the car at my age like I used to, so I'm just waiting for a phone call when they can fit me in. It should have been already been fitted as standard on my diesel but when the dealer took delivery from Skoda fleet operations at the end of its lease, the tray was missing so the dealer has sent me a replacement to be fitted locally. If I want to drive 300 miles round trip they would fit it for me, but screw that, it would cost me more in fuel than the garage will charge me in labour.

I can still get down & under our cars. However, getting back out & onto my feet is the issue!! 

Experienced this recently when I had to remove the rear bumper undertray on my wife's Kona to replace a dim halogen reversing light bulb for an LED. Did it without jacking the car up for more access. 

Who designs a car with no access to the rear light bulbs from within the boot space? 

3 minutes ago, Colin170CR said:

Who designs a car with no access to the rear light bulbs from within the boot space? 

 

Kia apparently 😆

16 minutes ago, Colin170CR said:

I can still get down & under our cars. However, getting back out & onto my feet is the issue!! 

Experienced this recently when I had to remove the rear bumper undertray on my wife's Kona to replace a dim halogen reversing light bulb for an LED. Did it without jacking the car up for more access. 

Who designs a car with no access to the rear light bulbs from within the boot space? 

Yes, well to be honest that is my problem, it is not a pretty sight or very dignified so I'd much rather not have to do it if I can avoid it. 😉 If I had access to a hoist or a pit, I'd be under the car a lot, that's for sure.

 

Come to think about it, the Superb also has its poor design points, like have to remove the entire front bumper and grill to replace a headlamp assembly. On old cars with round lamps, undo 1 screw, remove the chrome trim, push and rotate the lamp assembly slightly and the whole load came out in your hand, a 5 minute job in total, including replacing the bulb or unit again.

Edited 14 August, 20232 yr by Graham Butcher

There were 3 more screws in keyhole slots to loosen to release the inner retaining bezel but still the work of seconds.

9 hours ago, coppertop said:

I guess this is classed as the Rough Road package? Do you have the link and part numbers for all the parts in the illustration?

 

u can find all the part numbers for that illustration here.

5 hours ago, JR RS said:

 

u can find all the part numbers for that illustration here.

Thanks, just brush up on my Russian now!

10 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

Yes, well to be honest that is my problem, it is not a pretty sight or very dignified so I'd much rather not have to do it if I can avoid it. 😉 If I had access to a hoist or a pit, I'd be under the car a lot, that's for sure.

 

Come to think about it, the Superb also has its poor design points, like have to remove the entire front bumper and grill to replace a headlamp assembly. On old cars with round lamps, undo 1 screw, remove the chrome trim, push and rotate the lamp assembly slightly and the whole load came out in your hand, a 5 minute job in total, including replacing the bulb or unit again.

I think it's a similar situation for most modern cars these days.

A cambelt change on my old Audi A6 (& I think the Superb is similar) resulted a near complete disassembly of the front end of the car & takes a garage the best part of a day to do. Plus, while they have the entire front end all over the workshop floor, they have to replace the obligatory other parts like a water pump because it's "prudent" to do it while they have the access which would otherwise need the front end of the car being stripped again. It all adds to the unnecessary cost the hapless motorist has to pay for something that should be far easier & cheaper to do.  

 

By contrast a cambelt change on my old 1968 slant 4 2.0ltr Vauxhall Viva GT could be done in my lunch break & did not even involve removing a cam belt cover or any other part of the car! In the pic below you can just see the top of the cam belt by the radiator filler cap. Not even a cover, although I think one may have been added on later models. An oil filter change, headlight bulb replacement & just about any other engine bay related task was equally as easy.

    

IMO modern car design, from a maintenance / repair point of view, cannot be seen as an improvement over what went before. You can't even change a battery these days without "re-coding" the ECU which needs a PC & software😖 Rant over. Deep breath & a stiff drink.     

 

1 hour ago, Colin170CR said:

I think it's a similar situation for most modern cars these days.

A cambelt change on my old Audi A6 (& I think the Superb is similar) resulted a near complete disassembly of the front end of the car & takes a garage the best part of a day to do. Plus, while they have the entire front end all over the workshop floor, they have to replace the obligatory other parts like a water pump because it's "prudent" to do it while they have the access which would otherwise need the front end of the car being stripped again. It all adds to the unnecessary cost the hapless motorist has to pay for something that should be far easier & cheaper to do.  

 

By contrast a cambelt change on my old 1968 slant 4 2.0ltr Vauxhall Viva GT could be done in my lunch break & did not even involve removing a cam belt cover or any other part of the car! In the pic below you can just see the top of the cam belt by the radiator filler cap. Not even a cover, although I think one may have been added on later models. An oil filter change, headlight bulb replacement & just about any other engine bay related task was equally as easy.

    

IMO modern car design, from a maintenance / repair point of view, cannot be seen as an improvement over what went before. You can't even change a battery these days without "re-coding" the ECU which needs a PC & software😖 Rant over. Deep breath & a stiff drink.     

 

How true, I bet that if the designers of the engines, and cars in general were made to do these tasks that have to be done from time to time, that they would quickly make design tweaks to make their job easier and quicker. That would in turn trickle down to lower insurance costs as well I think.

Don't forget a car from the 60s did not have what would have be seen as "nice to have" at this time and have now become "must have".

There's no secret it takes space under the bonnet!

Swapped centre resonator with one from a Golf R:

https://streamable.com/6knwd3

 

 

Not the best result - DSG shifts are too high pitched for my liking but otherwise it sounds like factory around town. 

Edited 15 August, 20232 yr by ZacDaMan72