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RE: 2006 vrS OWNERS STUTTER - SKODA UK FIX

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This will go down in history as the first time that I'm glad I've been a good girl :thumbup:

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  • First off, well done to those who condensed the thread Couple of questions if anyone knows the answer. 1) Where do skoda dealers fit the 14.5mm gasket? Position 6 or 11? Seem to remember reading th

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Bye Bye remap then if anyones got one.

If one had a remap and Skoda had identified the problem as an ECU one. Would that not mean that the remap had solved the stutter anyway, hence no need to get a fix?

How will the new software effect 06 cars which have had a modified EGR gasket already fitted by Skoda to cure the stutter?

I guess, the issue now will be if Skoda do it as a recall and reprogram all the ECU's as they get them in for a service, wiping remaps as they go,f the problem was reported or not. in just the same way that they reflashed the firmware on my stereo earlier in the week with an updated version even though I had no problems.

Well it looks like Skoda have finally worked something out, but will the 'reflash' alter the driving characheristics of the car (Apart from the stutter)

Can anyone who's had their ECU reflashed report their findings. (Driveability, more / less powerful, more / less clag, more / less MPG, and last but by no means least, has the stutter gone)

Fingers crossed

Cheers

Nick

Bye Bye remap then if anyones got one.

Would be interested to hear how people get on with this. I'm under the impression some of the tuners (REVO for one) lock the ECU so that no upgrades can be done.

Could make for an interesting discussion with the service department! :eek:

I am a newbie here, had my vRS for a couple of months and I thought I was going insane regarding the stutter...its intermittant, seemed worse when it was hot but thanks to this thread I have now booked mine in to have the warranty work carried out at Pilling Skoda Milton Keynes. When I booked in they said it was news to them about the problem so I hope they do the fix to the ECU that is being advised without any fuss...! Have to say a big thanks to this forum for the help its given me

My dealer didn`t know about the fix. He does now, but has not received it as of yet, so eagerly waiting.

Anyone had this done yet? What are the results?

I have had the same experience as "Backpacker" a Y Reg 1.9TDI 100BHP Fabia Elegance Estate. Lovely car except for a steering fault, but it drove beautifully without a murmur from the engine. What do we have now -- a lumpy, stuttering engine and Skoda wriggling when we complain that the stutter exists on the EU 1V engine.

Jopo

My car is booked in 9.30 am Tuesday 24 October for ECU adaptation - this is apparently the official designation. The car will be with the dealer all day so I will try to obtain more information to pass on.

Here's hoping!!!!!

I am a newbie here, had my vRS for a couple of months and I thought I was going insane regarding the stutter...its intermittant, seemed worse when it was hot but thanks to this thread I have now booked mine in to have the warranty work carried out at Pilling Skoda Milton Keynes. When I booked in they said it was news to them about the problem so I hope they do the fix to the ECU that is being advised without any fuss...! Have to say a big thanks to this forum for the help its given me

they should have known about the problem as i told them about my car a few times and they just say to me it is in the pipeline had no phone call about booking mine in i will give them a call in the morning

I havn't had a phone call and Skoda have my details logging the stutter sent from the Dealer, as required. I think I will wait until a few more reports come back of how the fix is holding up before I take the lead and get things moving, again :rolleyes:

Folks,

Confused here ... had a couple of phone calls from Skoda UK and then the dealer. First call told me a fix had been issued along with a bulletin to dealers ... looks like a revised gasket for the EGR valve. Dealer called and told me they could find no info and contacted the factory and told me nothing official was coming out. So spoke to Skoda UK who apologised and said no fix was availaible yet but coming soon .. possible ECU changes. Then dealer called to say had now got the bulletin and was ordering new part ... ie gasket. Contacted Skoda to be told yes this was official fix and they had prematurely called everyone... VERY CONFUSING!

So does anyone know :

1) Is the revised (and this is a different size to the original revised gasket that moved the problem up the rev range to 3000 rpm and blew the Euro IV emissions tests !!) gasket the final solution

2) Are there accompanying ECU upgrades too

3) Is this all detailed somewhere and does anyone have a number and or a copy of the bulletin ?

I previously owned a Fabia 1.9TDI Estate for 4 years covering 39,000 miles of trouble free motoring with superb fuel economy so it was an easy decision to go for an identical model when I decided to change it in February 2006. Unfortunately I quickly realized my mistake and have been trying to live with the stutters and the associated problems for the past 8 months.

However, I am puzzled that there has been little comment on the poor fuel consumption of the stuttering 2006 model which, in my case, compares very badly with the earlier engine which easily achieved and bettered the published fuel consumption figures whereas my present car which has covered 6800 miles since new in February returns a combined figure of 48.6 mpg compared with 51.8 mpg for my previous car and 56.5 mpg Skoda published figures.

Worse to come when looking at the extra urban fuel consumption whereas my previous Fabia averaged in excess of 60 mpg and often achieved an average of 65 mpg plus whilst my present car struggles to achieve 50 mpg and has never bettered 54 mpg even on a long motorway journey.

All my fuel consumption figures are based on actual mileage and fuel used (full tank to full tank).

Cruise control is unable to cope with the uneven and unpredictable throttle response caused by the stutter problem with the result that it is easier and less stressful to rely on my right foot to optimize road speed and fuel consumption.

Hopefully the long awaited fix will solve all the problems that affect my stuttering Fabia.

I've done 14.5k in my 06 vRS - and I get the stutter all the time. It's the same symptoms though - if you are soft on the throttle around 1,900 rpm the power delivery is a little jerky.

It's a pain, but I've lived with it - until the fix. What I did do though was mention in in the JD Power & Skoda surveys sent to me.

In terms of MPG - I get around 48 - 51, depending on how I drive (I don't hang around [does any vRS driver, LOL?]).

Power has improved over age, and MPG too - but stutter has got worse.

I eagerly await the approved fix - I am concerned about the damage it is doing with all this stuttering.

D

My dealer has the revised part on order, will take 5-7 days cos u guys are all ringing up.

Hee Hee.

I previously owned a Fabia 1.9TDI Estate for 4 years covering 39,000 miles of trouble free motoring with superb fuel economy so it was an easy decision to go for an identical model when I decided to change it in February 2006. Unfortunately I quickly realized my mistake and have been trying to live with the stutters and the associated problems for the past 8 months.

However, I am puzzled that there has been little comment on the poor fuel consumption of the stuttering 2006 model which, in my case, compares very badly with the earlier engine which easily achieved and bettered the published fuel consumption figures whereas my present car which has covered 6800 miles since new in February returns a combined figure of 48.6 mpg compared with 51.8 mpg for my previous car and 56.5 mpg Skoda published figures.

Worse to come when looking at the extra urban fuel consumption whereas my previous Fabia averaged in excess of 60 mpg and often achieved an average of 65 mpg plus whilst my present car struggles to achieve 50 mpg and has never bettered 54 mpg even on a long motorway journey.

All my fuel consumption figures are based on actual mileage and fuel used (full tank to full tank).

Cruise control is unable to cope with the uneven and unpredictable throttle response caused by the stutter problem with the result that it is easier and less stressful to rely on my right foot to optimize road speed and fuel consumption.

Hopefully the long awaited fix will solve all the problems that affect my stuttering Fabia.

I have owned an 05 and an 06 vRS back to back and the fuel consumption on the 06 is not as good, the motor has a flat spot which forces me to change down a gear to get decent acceleration and stop the engine bogging down, so I assume this is affecting the economy.

Oddly, our 06 vRS (which does stutter) seems to be more economical than our old 54 vRS (which didn't stutter). In fairness this is only based on the computer figures, but for the same trip to Devon which we do regularly. the 54 used to typically do 51 or 52 mpg whereas the 06 is typically 55 or 56 (with a best of 58). Of course it could just be that the computer is more optimistic. SWMBO generally fills it up so I haven't done any brimful to brimful calcs.

This is my first vrs (06) so I cannot compare. I have had 60.1 when I drove the A roads from Lymington to Bristol last month. My mileage was probably 4.5k back then.

ok guys after going to pilling skoda today in mk i have now booked my car in for the fix but i think they are only replacing the gasket no ecu modifications required although the fella showed me the technical service bullietin from october 2nd so maybe he hasnt actually been sent the new new bullietin

The stutter problem is less obvious when the car is driven hard in which case the

fuel economy is probably not a consideration.

The dead spot (see The The message 189 this thread) is always there and appears just at the point the accelerator starts opening. At low speeds when changing up from 1st to 2nd gear, for example, the dead spot can cause a very pronounced hesitation which, at very low revs, will cause the engine to stall.

The dead spot also causes road speed to constantly fall off when trying to maintain a steady speed typically motorway driving whether on cruise control or not. This means excessive use of the throttle to keep to the desired speed with a consequent large increase in fuel consumption.

Unfortiuniiartelly the prrpekf\\WECG

I have just checked my emails and there is one from SUK telling me they have advised my Dealer of a fix and I need to book my car in for the work to be carried out. :thumbup:

Anyone actually had this done yet and has some feedback to offer?

My 2006 Fabia 1.9TDi has been recalled and is is with dealer today for an

ECU adaption and a modified EGV gasket. As far as I have been able to

ascertain that is the extent of the fix but I will press for any further details

when I collect the car this evening.

I get the impression they need the car for the full day so that they can

carry out an extensive road test after the work has been carried out.

I'll post my initial impressions as soon as possible but will also need to do some

motorway driving to see if they have resolved the speed drop off at constant

accelerator setting and the effect of this on the fuel consumption and cruise control.

Setting off for the garage this morning the car had a bad stutter when changing from

first to second gear, almost stalled the engine.

Just collected Fabia from dealer, work carried out E.C.U adaption and replace E.G.R. valve gasket. The E.C.U adaption involved a software amendment from a factory supplied disk which , I am told, alters the slow running characteristics. The gasket was replaced with a modified version.

First impressions are favourable having driven 12 miles with no evidence of hesitation or stutter but I will carryout an extensive test drive tomorrow hopefully to confirm first impressions were correct and particularly to check motorway performance and fuel comsumption.

I'll post more information tomorrow.

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