Hey guys, 

In searching for the perfect retrofiting, I am searching for the best option yet

So, i have the 2013 o3 and the obvious Kostal clockspring

The question is

Should I keep searching for the oe one from Kostal or move to Valeo's 569C from superb 3?

Does the 5Q1953569C fits on my steering wheel? Also i notice that is the 5q1 instead of 5q0

 

I saw a post earlier but it doesn't conclude to me

 

Regards 

Hello all,

The modification is done, the HSW is installed and working. I am really happy with the result. It took me some time to complete the job, mainly due to lack of time and ordering the wrong clock spring initially.

What happened in my case is that I tried to save some money by going for an older clock spring model 5Q0953549D although my Skoda Octavia MK3 had ordinally 5Q0 953 569 A, which according so some posts here would require a 5Q0 953 569 B to power the HSW. It turns out that the mounting points of the clock springs are different and the 5Q0953549D did not fit the steering rack at all. I ended up buying the 5Q0 953 569 B used from another Skoda and it all worked like a dream. I had already prepared all cabling using an alternative to the Kuafec cable loom (see below) which made the rest of the job rather easy. Please note, that the cable is plug and play, however it is a bit short, and I had to extend the 12V and ground wires with app. 40 cm to easily reach the connector of the clock spring. After installing the clock spring and HSW and coding, I had an error message that the cruise control is not working but this error disappeared after few hours. Interestingly, the coding that I thought to have made, was lost afterwards as well. Anyway, I coded again as described in this topic and voilà, the button for the HSW appeared 😊

Last thing, I was never sure if this modification will work if one has no heated seats, but it does.

 

Here is a list of the parts with prices:

 

5Q0 953 569 B                 clock spring - £95

3V0880201 AA                Airbag - £110

5E0419091CFCWE        HSW - £92

 Slip Ring Adapter Cable - £15

 

Good luck!

 

 

Good work! I’m glad it worked and that we now know it’ll work on PFL cars without heated seats. Good effort 👌🏻

@dkutsarov same situation i ve ordered the Valeo 569b instead of Kostal 549D.

I am Not Trying to change the system. Also, mfsw won't be able to work with Kostal s 549d?

@Purpletom need help 

So

549d from Kostal works fine with the mfsw from steering wheel? 

Hello all,

 

just for completeness and as it has not been shown before, please find below an image of both clock springs (the 549D and 569A-my old clock spring) attached.  As you can see, the aperture in the middle of the clock spring differs between the models and won't fit onto any steering rack. Also there are mounting holes on the 569 that are missing for the 549.  FYI, my car is from November 2016. My advice would be to see which clock spring number you have now and just get the version with the suffix allowing for the addition of a HSW.  

So, i ve changed the slip ring from Kostal's 549a to 549d, 

My octavia is a my13 so i still have mib1's panasonic as infortament and doesn't display the icon with steering wheel. 

Also the steering wheel is an octavia 4 so i need a new gwcan, but this is an another story. 

 

So, what is my options? 

Hello everyone. I'm slowly giving up.

1. The steering wheel with heating was replaced. Additionally, the slip ring 5Q0953569B was replaced. Of course, additional wiring.

2. Coding to get steering wheel heating in the menu. until now, everything was fine. Controls in the menu work correctly. The steering wheel heats up.

3. Now the problems... an error with the acc was displayed. When I returned to the old slip ring, the problem with the acc disappeared. Any ideas? Could the slip ring 5Q0953569B be incompatible with the acc? Am I missing some coding?

7 hours ago, onyx84 said:

Hello everyone. I'm slowly giving up.

1. The steering wheel with heating was replaced. Additionally, the slip ring 5Q0953569B was replaced. Of course, additional wiring.

2. Coding to get steering wheel heating in the menu. until now, everything was fine. Controls in the menu work correctly. The steering wheel heats up.

3. Now the problems... an error with the acc was displayed. When I returned to the old slip ring, the problem with the acc disappeared. Any ideas? Could the slip ring 5Q0953569B be incompatible with the acc? Am I missing some coding?

I think its time to find someone to make updates... I also searching for this option 

Wanted to say a big thank you to everyone who contributed to this awesome thread. This thread including all its links has been pretty much everything I needed to get this done.

Summary is:

2017 Superb 206 wagon.

• Wheel

  5E3419093AM VKJ

• Airbag

  5E3880201D IZY

• Clockspring

  5Q0953569C

• Kufatec HSW retrofit loom

  43696-1 (extended for RHD)

• LIN bus adapter

  cars Equipment full function LIN adapter.

Along the way I figured a few things out:

• The clockspring 569C needs to have software (SW) version equal to or later than your current SW on 569A.

• You can skip pulling the fuse panel out and messing around with the wires at the back by using a fuse wire tap (see pics). Let’s you plug straight in, cut off tip of Kufatec loom positive wire and crimp into the fuse wire tap. For me I had an unused terminal 30 fuse at SC24 (see pic below. Empty slot in middle of pic) which was for a sunroof I don’t have. The rear wiper fuse spot will also work for sedan cars.

Overall thrilled and very happy apart from my MIB 2 high nav showing my location about 2km off actual location. I guess you can’t win em all 😂.

Edited 12 July, 202512 Jul by Frankenfurter

Hi, apologies for digging up an old thread, was wondering if anyone knows if there is any wiring change post 25/11/ 2018 FL Octavia's? (My car was manufactured in 2019) Had an issue with kufatec saying their heated wiring loom was not compatible with my car. This made me doubt whether Their wiring harness would work on my car.

Has anyone come across this issue before? If so what was your solution?

KUFATEC

Heated steering wheel cable set for VW, Skoda

Specific cable set for retrofitting a heated steering wheel for various VW and Skoda vehicles

So I'm still having trouble finding folk that have done this mod to my year car. If anyone has a facelift MK3 Octavia with factory heated steering wheel, a vcds scan to show part number of the clock spring would help.

I have purchased a clock spring part number

5Q1953549F, as this is the only one I can find with similar parts number as mine with the heated wheel connection.

It was previously fitted to a Skoda Enyaq so really not confident it will be compatible. The kufatec harness seems to connect up fine so far, so pin positions may be the reason they don't recommend using it past mid 2018 cars.

Will update once I get a chance to test the clock springs.

12 hours ago, alimac81 said:

Ich habe immer noch Probleme, Leute zu finden, die diesen Umbau an meinem Jahreswagen vorgenommen haben. Wenn jemand einen Facelift-MK3-Octavia mit werkseitig beheiztem Lenkrad hat, wäre ein VCD-Scan zur Ermittlung der Teilenummer der Wickelfeder hilfreich.

Ich habe eine Wickelfeder mit der Teilenummer gekauft

5Q1953549F, da dies das einzige ist, das ich mit einer ähnlichen Teilenummer wie meines mit dem beheizten Radanschluss finden kann.

Es wurde zuvor in einem Skoda Enyaq eingebaut, daher bin ich nicht wirklich sicher, ob es kompatibel ist. Der Kufatec-Kabelbaum scheint bisher problemlos angeschlossen zu werden, daher könnten die Pin-Positionen der Grund sein, warum sie nicht empfehlen, es in Fahrzeugen ab Mitte 2018 zu verwenden.

Wird aktualisiert, sobald ich die Gelegenheit habe, die Uhrfedern zu testen.

The question is, is your steering column control unit still a CAN participant 5Q0, or already a LIN participant, 5Q1..... our Octavia facelift, left hand drive, with CAN control unit, has 5Q0953569B

16 hours ago, alimac81 said:

So I'm still having trouble finding folk that have done this mod to my year car. If anyone has a facelift MK3 Octavia with factory heated steering wheel, a vcds scan to show part number of the clock spring would help.

I have purchased a clock spring part number

5Q1953549F, as this is the only one I can find with similar parts number as mine with the heated wheel connection.

It was previously fitted to a Skoda Enyaq so really not confident it will be compatible. The kufatec harness seems to connect up fine so far, so pin positions may be the reason they don't recommend using it past mid 2018 cars.

Will update once I get a chance to test the clock springs.

Just take your steering wheel trim off and check your clockspring part number. It’s dead easy as the part labels are on top of the steering column when you pop it up. Don’t even need to remove the wheel. Here is mine in my 2017 Superb. Obviously once you know what clockspring you have you’ll know which clockspring you’ll need and hopefully which version of the loom you’ll need.

This link will be helpful as they talk through the wiring in the plugs. You could even reach out to them with your specific questions. https://wirer.sk/o3_volant22-vyhrev/

Edited 28 August, 202528 Aug by Frankenfurter

Thankyou for your responses.

I should have mentioned that my car has fitted

Squib 5Q1953549,

indicator stalk 5Q1 953 507 B.

It appears to be Lin, meaning slave coded through the BCM. Had a look on vcds and couldn't figure out how to get coding off the steering control module, or how to code a new one.

VW retrofits seem to think you have to replace both stalks and squib on these.

As I mentioned before the only squib (clock spring) assy that seems to have heated wheel connection is 5Q1953549F. 5Q0 won't work as CAN based not Lin.

Hello.

Next week I'm buying a pre-facelift 2009 Octavia RS DSG Combi MK2 with CEGA engine code.

Unfortunately, it has a steering wheel without multifunction. I've seen a few people who were able to solve the problem of getting a new multifunction heated steering wheel to work in the car, even an Octavia 4 RS steering wheel.

I've already dug into the topic a bit and I know that in addition to the new steering wheel I'll also need a new steering wheel controller, a new steering wheel slip ring, maybe new steering column switches and an extra cable for the steering wheel heating.

Unfortunately, I don't know yet what and how many parts I'll need. I also know that I'll need some extra module that will help the new parts work in the old car, but I don't know what that is.

Has anyone ever put an Octavia 3 RS or Octavia 4 RS steering wheel in a pre-facelift Octavia 2 car so that the multifunction and steering wheel heating work?

Can anyone help me with exactly what parts I should buy, what should be connected where, and what settings should be set in vcds?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Forget it

7 hours ago, Cairus said:

Forget it

Translation -

If you’re asking the questions you’re asking, it’s probably best you buy a car with a multifunction steering wheel already installed. If you’re not sure what module you need, or even what it is, it’s a good idea to quit while you’re ahead - it’ll just be a headache!

The other option of course, if you’re set on this particular car for some reason, would be to take it to a retrofit place, and get them to do it

The problem is that the pre-facelift Octavia 2 operates on CAN 1.6, while the facelift model and the Octavia 3 operate on CAN 2.0.

38 minutes ago, OccyVRS said:

Translation -

If you’re asking the questions you’re asking, it’s probably best you buy a car with a multifunction steering wheel already installed. If you’re not sure what module you need, or even what it is, it’s a good idea to quit while you’re ahead - it’ll just be a headache!

The other option of course, if you’re set on this particular car for some reason, would be to take it to a retrofit place, and get them to do it

I want to do it myself, i just need a little help for it.

Oh yes, the only exception is if you already have the facelifted interior.

10 hours ago, Norbiva said:

Hello.

Next week I'm buying a pre-facelift 2009 Octavia RS DSG Combi MK2 with CEGA engine code.

Unfortunately, it has a steering wheel without multifunction. I've seen a few people who were able to solve the problem of getting a new multifunction heated steering wheel to work in the car, even an Octavia 4 RS steering wheel.

I've already dug into the topic a bit and I know that in addition to the new steering wheel I'll also need a new steering wheel controller, a new steering wheel slip ring, maybe new steering column switches and an extra cable for the steering wheel heating.

Unfortunately, I don't know yet what and how many parts I'll need. I also know that I'll need some extra module that will help the new parts work in the old car, but I don't know what that is.

Has anyone ever put an Octavia 3 RS or Octavia 4 RS steering wheel in a pre-facelift Octavia 2 car so that the multifunction and steering wheel heating work?

Can anyone help me with exactly what parts I should buy, what should be connected where, and what settings should be set in vcds?

Thanks in advance for your help.

1 hour ago, Cairus said:

Oh yes, the only exception is if you already have the facelifted interior.

I saw a few videos on the youtube, where they did it. They said i can do it on a pre facelift octavia 2, but they didnt tell me what specific things i need for that. I hope someone will help here

Of course you can do it, but the question is whether it's worth the effort. I don't know of any Volkswagen Group vehicle that came with a factory-installed heater, given the technological standards of the time. So, it would probably involve a lot of modifications.

9 hours ago, Norbiva said:

I want to do it myself, i just need a little help for it.

I understand that, but the complexity of such a job makes it pretty much impossible to do cost effectively. It’s a different CAN generation, so you’ll need to do wiring, BCM replacement (along with smaller modules AFAIK) and have a lot of trial and error.

Even if you know what you’re doing for definite, from what I’ve seen, it’s a pretty inefficient and difficult job.

Hi,

I’ve started the heated steering wheel retrofit (Octavia 3 FL 2018) following the procedure @Purpletom described at the beginning of this thread and I’m now at the final stage where I’m stuck.

What has been done so far:

• Replaced the steering wheel with a heated version

• Replaced the clock spring from 549 F → 549 D

• Added power supply

• Hardware should be complete and correctly connected

Coding performed in: 08 – HVAC

• Byte 11 – bit 2 and 3 (active, active)

• Byte 13 – bit 2 and 3 (outside temp)

• Byte 14 – bit 6 and 7 (LRH gen2 mod)

After coding, the heated steering wheel button appears in the infotainment menu, but it cannot be activated.

According to several comments in this thread, it might be necessary to:

• “remove the coding then recode” – but it’s not clear in which module and how exactly,

• or perform a CAN Gateway reset – but I’m not sure about the correct procedure.

I believe the hardware and basic coding are correct and that I’m missing just one final initialization/reset step.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.