I've only had the VRS a month but it seems pretty slow to get off the line. It's probably me (I don't have an issue in my wife's 1.6 Rapid) but I seem to be constantly 'beaten' off the line be it a van or 1.2 corsa. I'm not talking about a traffic light grand prix, just pulling away normally. Once I'm into second I have no problem with the acceleration. Anyone else noticed anything similar?

Thats it, no rocket ship, but it has all those Torques.

 

vRS is just a trim level on the Diesel version, not an indication of any sporting ability.

If that's the case, it's the same for the petrol vrs

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The 220ps Petrol gets a bit more of a shift on does it not from a standing start?

First gear in most diesels is just to get them rolling, its very short.

My only issue with the car is that I can't get the power down quick enough in first as the wheels spin. If the tyres "bit", I don't think there'd be an issue. However I've not been left by a 1.2 Corsa or a van.

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First gear in most diesels is just to get them rolling, its very short.

Agree with this too. Feels short with the torque., second is better, third is a peach.

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I'd be worried if you were left for dust by a Corsa 1.2

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Yep if you want that kind of throttle response get the petrol, it can shift from standing without making a big song and dance about it whilst you can really work the diesels hard to get them moving that comes across a bit odd in a diesel for me as its not really where its ability is at.

Its that sort of lazy laid back torque that diesels are great for.

 

It's definitely got the edge on my Fabia mk1 vRS on pulling away and that should be lighter.

But the torque of the diesel and economy is useful elsewhere, you can't have all your cake and eat it !

Just appreciate the fact that you'll be past them just down the road without even breaking a sweat ........

Edited 22 November, 201510 yr by vRSAnt

If you have the DSG, try using the launch control, much quicker to get going and not much wheel spin.

If I want to beat someone away from the line, for some reason, I give it a little oomph to let the dsg know I'm in a hurry then floor it once I'm moving. If you stamp on the accelerator from a standing start the lovely diesel torque easily makes the wheels spin.

It's worth noting that some 'white vans' have a 2.2l or 2.5l diesel with more torque and rear wheel drive. When empty they can push hard as long as they don't need to corner.

First gear in most diesels is just to get them rolling, its very short.

 

In the TDI vRS the first gear is definately short but it is also torque limited quite heavily as the rpm increase.

I find you have to change to 2nd quite early to give a smooth pull-away even at medium accelerations.

Put the car into ESC Sport....is alot keener off the line though you have to modulate the throttle a bit as so not to experience blazing wheelspin.

The ASR and perhaps XDS when fully on I think has a real time dealing with the torque output so really reigns it in in 1st gear.

Good thing with ESC sport is you are in no way deactivating the ESC fully, rather reducing its governance just a little so its not unsafe. I drive my GTD in ESC sport most of the time when I really want it off the mark quickly.

Thats it, no rocket ship, but it has all those Torques.

 

vRS is just a trim level on the Diesel version, not an indication of any sporting ability.

 

well if you can call shoving an engine in with an extra 34 horsepower, fitting multi link sports suspension, bigger wheels, ESC sport, a sound generator, different bumpers and sports seats a trim level.......

What is it other than a TDI with 184ps and some tarting up for 'Sportyness' More Show than go.?

You get the same with Part Time AWD that performs as well or better.

 

Are the bigger wheels anything other than a style over function or do you really feel that lower profile tyre letting 

you hold on to the road that much better.

(Until winter when you put more practical wheels / tyres on.)

 

PS

lol,

A Sound Generator and a Faux rear Exhaust Outlet, very nice.

Edited 23 November, 201510 yr by goneoffSKion1

I tend to find the same problem with mine too.  I had a VRS TDI 170 prior to this and it's quite noticeable how much slower it is off the line even in sport mode.  The old one (manual) was very easy to launch without really thinking too much about it. I'm thinking this is mainly about adjusting to the changes in tech between the two but would love to have the launch capability of the DSG on my manual....

 

I'm also finding when the 'pedal is to the metal' it actually gets slightly stuck when releasing.  I'm hoping this just eases up in use - 2k on the clock now so will just keep an eye.

Can't say I've the issue in my TSi nor did I in my mk2FL diesel.

Maybe you need a bit more time to adapt to the car and for the car to bed in?

But then again I don't really bother with pulling away quickly due to an annoying noise my car makes.

If I want to beat somboby off the line at traffic lights, if there's two lanes going straight on and I'm the front car I normaly hang back about a car length and a half from the white line, when the lights change to red and amber I set off so I'm passing the green light already moving. works for me

well if you can call shoving an engine in with an extra 34 horsepower, fitting multi link sports suspension, bigger wheels, ESC sport, a sound generator, different bumpers and sports seats a trim level.......

Well, apart from the looks, soundgenerator, brakes and the steering, yeah, it is more or less a trimlevel. All the other bits and bobs are available on other versions.

The TSI atleast has an engine that aint available in other versions.

I was driving Audi's V6 TDI before vRS, and I must say that I'm not impressed by a 0-1500rpm hesistation or no power/torque.

Up to 1500, nothing, nada, zero. And I still must learn that with time, as I find myself hitting the pedal and looking at dash like WTF? :-)

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In my old PD140, I'd find it had reasonable good uptake, then a surge that would leave most normal cars behind.

 

The CR150 doesn't feel anywhere near as quick, and certainly isn't off the line, but you have to be careful.

It's deceptively fast and you can get yourself up to motorway speed in a very short amount of sliproad.

 

In fact on an autobahn, you'd get youself to well over a tonne on an short slip road too.

Makes me laugh the whole "TDI isnt a proper vRS just a trim level" attitude.

Its the same f-ing car as the TSI, just with a slightly less powerful diesel motor trading some all out performance for better running costs which suits most people wierdly enough as they are in the main bought as family cars or run as company cars...the latter a diesel cetainly makes way more sense unless you get kicks throwing cash at the tax man.

Lets face it the TDI can still dispatch 60 in less than 8 secs (lets ignore the book figures as we all know they are *******s) and run onto well over 140mph.....I dont classify that as lacking performance...particularly when it can return 50-odd MPG all day long.

Edited 23 November, 201510 yr by pipsypreturns

Makes me laugh the whole "TDI isnt a proper vRS just a trim level" attitude.

Its the same f-ing car as the TSI, just with a slightly less powerful diesel motor trading some all out performance for better running costs which suits most people wierdly enough as they are in the main bought as family cars or run as company cars...the latter a diesel cetainly makes way more sense unless you get kicks throwing cash at the tax man.

Lets face it the TDI can still dispatch 60 in less than 8 secs (lets ignore the book figures as we all know they are *******s) and run onto well over 140mph.....I dont classify that as lacking performance...particularly when it can return 50-odd MPG all day long.

I agree 100% although I can only average about 42mpg.

My vRS broke down yesterday and I'm currently in a 2.0 Passat. The biggest thing I'm missing is the brakes.

When I first test drove the vRS I thought it was poor compared to my Fabia vRS diesel but then I realised I needed to drive it more like a petrol and Rev it.

I wonder if there's something up with the OP's car. Might be worth comparing it to the dealers demo car.

Edited 23 November, 201510 yr by gullyg

OK, so just had chance to catch up with the thread Just to clarify one thing, I'm not trying to race anyone off the line or anything like that I've just noticed that almost everyone gets away quicker than me,

 

I think it's the very short first gear that may be what I'm trying to describe, although as soon as I begin to move the clutch from fully in it's already at the bite point so I think I'm riding it a bit which obviously isn't helping. The only reason I asked is because I don't have an issue in any other car, including ones that have far less power. I'll stick ESC into  Sport and see if that makes any difference at all.

 

Thanks for all of the responses though

OK, so just had chance to catch up with the thread Just to clarify one thing, I'm not trying to race anyone off the line or anything like that I've just noticed that almost everyone gets away quicker than me,

I think it's the very short first gear that may be what I'm trying to describe, although as soon as I begin to move the clutch from fully in it's already at the bite point so I think I'm riding it a bit which obviously isn't helping. The only reason I asked is because I don't have an issue in any other car, including ones that have far less power. I'll stick ESC into Sport and see if that makes any difference at all.

Thanks for all of the responses though

Welcome.

1st is incredibly short and with ESC on full it definitely reigns in power. ESC sport makes quite a difference in my GTD....so much so that unless I am just crusing about I tend to put it into ESC sport most of the time.

It will still reign in wheelspin as it doesnt turn the ESC off completely...just loosens it grip.