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You can ad mine to the list. Owned for 22 days, full skoda history. 2010 2.0 Tsi vRS. Booked into dealers to investigate rattle from timing chain tensioner on start. I was informed " they all do that Sir, it's the tensioner filling with oil.

70 miles later the car wouldn't start, just turned over fast. Aa recovery guy wrote " catastrophic timing failure " on his sheet. Car dumped on dealers forecourt, Keys left in showroom. Currently in the process of rejecting the vehicle

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    Well after 2 years we finally won our case through the motoring ombudsman against my Skoda dealer.Originally I had a strange rattle on startup .l took the car into the garage twice worried it was the

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Oh dear. I just bought a 2011 1.8TSI too, only 16000 on the clock at the moment. I don't mind within the next 12 months as I am obviously covered by roadside assistance and warranty - it's beyond the next 12 months that's already in my mind...

 

On the plus side though Simbo, you've got a brand new engine.... 2K for effectively another good few years motoring isn't that bad a deal, but obviously you don't want to have to spend a penny I know!

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Add mine to the list...

2011 1.8TSI Superb Elegance DSG now on 65000 miles. High oil consumption since the last service. Little did I know what was around the corner.

Climbing up a steep hill a week last Saturday, it wouldn't go over 30MPH then the engine management light came on & bonged 'Engine Workshop'. Called the AA - coil packs & spark plugs changed at the roadside to no avail. AA diagnosis was valve damage. Gulp! One of the spark plugs he took out was physically damaged.

The AA towed me home on the Saturday evening & then to DM Keith in Bradford on Sunday where I drove away in a 15 plate Superb Business 2.0L diesel DSG courtesy car.

DM Keith service dept. called me on the Monday to book it in.

Many phone calls later with Claire in Service & Craig, the Dealer Principal... & to cut a long story short, end result was a new engine was ordered with a 70% Skoda UK / DM Keith goodwill contribution leaving me with a £2187 repair bill, a new engine & 2 year warranty on it.

Totally miffed (an understatement!) at having to unexpectedly find TWO THOUSAND POUNDS but fortunate that it could have been so much worse.

I think my saving grace was I bought the car from DM Keith 2 years ago & every stamp in the book is DM Keith from new. They were also the original supplying dealer.

Despite the bombshell of the cost (did I mention TWO THOUSAND POUNDS!), praise to DM Keith, especially Claire who kept me informed at every step, kept me mobile in their courtesy car & I didn't need to chase or call them once.

Repair completed today & after handing over my credit card, I've got my own car back now...

Edit: As to the fault, apparently a piston ring in cylinder 2 had failed sending metal fragments all around the oil system & the internal engine damage was too severe to attempt any repair, hence a replacement engine being required.

Perhaps a good example of why taking out the extended skoda warranty would be pragmatic.

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Can add mine to the list, 2009 LE with circa 60k 

 

Skipped a tooth and definite valve / piston damage, the extent of which still being assessed.

 

Currently not sure whether it's a repair or new engine time - but will update when I know

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Update to the above, new (reconditioned) engine most economical repair for them as per a lot of the posts here.

Covered in part by the used warranty, remainder by the dealer themselves as I've only had it since Feb

Skoda assist and the dealer have been really good throughout to give them their dues. They take a lot of (usually warranted) stick so it's good when problems are made as hassle free as possible

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Came across this curious footage the other day:

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Hi People,

 

I'm sad to say I'm joining this less than desirable club =(

 

Octavia 2.0 TSI VRS 59 plate

 

Tried to start my car outside work yesterday (having driven in no problem in the morning), it made a horrible and probably fatal noise and conked straight out. I didn't bother trying again as I had previously (about a year ago when buying the car read loads of horror stories which, based on some comments about the number of actual cars and the real likelihood discounted as so rare that it would never happen to me (thanks all you naysayers!)), read about the timing chain thing and knew it wasn't any sort of sound an engine should make. I had a mechanic we use for our company cars pop down to have a look and he said there's no compression in the first cylinder and that he reckons it's the infamous timing chain fault/not fault that does/doesn't exist.

 

I'm particularly gutted as my car is a 59 plate and on 64,000 miles so when I tested the water at Skoda a minute ago they immediately started telling me that it was (essentially) unlucky that it wasn't in warranty any more and that if I send it in to them hopefully it isn't too bad. They also immediately said (when I mentioned it being a common fault) that I suppose you read that on some forum! (I can't believe they're slating the community ;) ) I've had a pretty time consuming browse online and am finding it hard to figure out if there is any sort of appetite from Skoda to pay towards this sort of thing at this age. Obviously people are having mixed results so I'm not overjoyed at my prospects, although I do feel it is shown to be a consistently reoccurring fault of theirs not the car owners themselves (hopefully age isn't as relevant when that's taken into account.

 

This is also mixed with my inability to get my head around my current vehicle prospects as I still owe £5,600 on this one and it's dead.

 

It's got a Seat/Skoda service history and had just been serviced 2000 miles ago at official Skoda garage (12,000 miles ago was a major service at the same garage).

 

Anyway thanks for listening ;)

 

And any help much appreciated,

Josh

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I feel for you Josheep. My 1.8T is currently in the garage due to its excessive oil use. The problem is being investigated and I'm waiting with baited breath over the final outcome.

I had to take mine in recently...

 

I had noticed a few days before that when starting, it wasn't catching straight away, usually first turn of the starter motor and it would fire up, but it was taking 2/3 seconds before actually starting....

I then started it up one afternoon, and it was running very badly, juddering at idle, but ok when revs were higher. I took it straight to skoda in Newport, as I was only a few miles away, and had the following report sent on to me. Hope you get to see it

 

https://video.citnow.com/vtytZh2KwP9

 

Timing chain, tensioner et al all changed

Manifold fault has been on the car for nearly 2 years, but thought i'd get it done whilst it was in

Tyres were low, all 4 of them, MOT due soon, so had them all done whilst there

Same with front pads/discs

 

 

I had all the work completed thats listed and is now running fine again, should be good for another 3/4 years now.

(61k on clock, owned from new)

I had to take mine in recently...

 

I had noticed a few days before that when starting, it wasn't catching straight away, usually first turn of the starter motor and it would fire up, but it was taking 2/3 seconds before actually starting....

I then started it up one afternoon, and it was running very badly, juddering at idle, but ok when revs were higher. I took it straight to skoda in Newport, as I was only a few miles away, and had the following report sent on to me. Hope you get to see it

 

Timing chain, tensioner et al all changed

Manifold fault has been on the car for nearly 2 years, but thought i'd get it done whilst it was in

Tyres were low, all 4 of them, MOT due soon, so had them all done whilst there

Same with front pads/discs

 

 

I had all the work completed thats listed and is now running fine again, should be good for another 3/4 years now.

(61k on clock, owned from new)

 

The link works fine, though there's an option to "approve" the work they have quoted. I haven't clicked it, but someone else could do it? I'd probably edit and remove from the post :)

 

*edit - nevermind, just re-read that you've already had the work done anyway, so probably won't be an issue.

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2010 Scout, 60k, full Skoda service history and looking at the prospect of a new engine. Issue is the excessive oil usage. Only had this one 6 months!

As an update to my earlier post:

 

I got a quote from the Skoda garage for a new engine as the old one was unrepairable: £4608.74!

 

I said I wasn't prepared to pay it as it was a non serviceable part and should last the life of the engine, and that I thought it was unreasonable that for just trying to start it after work it had wrecked itself through no fault of my own. I also said that I had only recently got it back from a service with them and that it had had a major service with them 12,000 miles previously. They asked if I had heard any noises from it leading up to it and I said no definitely not. The guy said he would go away and talk to someone about it. They phoned back later to say they would do it for £583.85 all in. I'm shocked, and over the moon! :sun:

 

When I spoke to the head of servicing he said that it was always better to pay some contribution towards it (even if only £1) as it technically makes it your property so they have to warranty it. If you pay nothing it has no warranty whatsoever (although within 12 months they will often goodwill it). So I have a 2 year warranty as well!

 

I had my cousin (mechanic) take a look at it and he said it was a brand new block, so not reconditioned. I think I'm definitely gonna take it easy for a thousand miles. When I asked about running it in, the Skoda guy said it only really needed you to take it easy for a few hundred miles (doesn't sound like much to me?).

 

My only queries are; should there be a cover on the underside of the bonnet? It looks particularly exposed as bare metal and I can't remember if there was anything there before?

 

And how do I know which timing chain tensioner is on this engine and whether I should concern myself with getting it changed?

 

Really grateful to all you guys and this forum as I wouldn't have had any of this information to take to them and I wouldn't have known about this being a common problem at all. I also feel really sorry for anyone who has had to pay, and hope this is of some help to the people still going through the process.

 

Good luck to everyone and thanks again,

Josh

Very useful update Josh so thanks for taking time to provide it. Only the Diesel engines came with the under bonnet cover, but they can be fitted to petrol versions.

Very useful update Josh so thanks for taking time to provide it. Only the Diesel engines came with the under bonnet cover, but they can be fitted to petrol versions.

No worries. Thanks for the info, I'm glad I don't have to go back for anything :notme:

That's a great result on a 59 plate! Your dealer sounds reasonably helpful, which one did you take it to?

That's a great result on a 59 plate! Your dealer sounds reasonably helpful, which one did you take it to?

He said they'd never done goodwill on a 7 year old car, have to admit I couldn't believe it either. I went to Carrs in Exeter, and yep the guy was really helpful.

I'm still waiting to hear from the dealer on the issue of goodwill. I'm really pleased that you've got some though, not least because it gives me a bit more hope!

Also just joined this club - excessive oil consumption - full details on http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/332562-scout-18tsi-high-oil-usage/page-2 thread.

 

Picked up car from dealer on the Monday, Oil Level warning light followed closely the following Saturday. And at regular intervals since. 2010 Scout, 1.8 petrol engine, <45k miles. Enjoying courtesy car whilst I'm awaiting dealer investigations.

Sorry to hear that. It seems a common problem.

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Dear all, not sure if you are aware of this and this? EA888 Stage2 engines are nightmare for all owners around world, failing tensioners and bad design of oil rings. Would you join Dutches with their claim in Europe or will you push more UK dealers to serve you properly as your loyal customers?

 as your loyal customers?

Meant their instead your, unfortunately can't edit post...

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Hmmm. Any lawsuit where you have to pay to join has huge red flags in my book. 

HK10 HDE is using 3.8l / 1000miles. Currently up for sale on 4front car sales after I just returned it to them

Superb 2010 estate 1.8 TSI elegance.

Avoid the car and the dealer

Can someone explain to me what you mean when you say 59 plate ?  Is there a table that someone can link me to that tells me what year model this relates to ?

Cheers mate! No wonder I wouldn't find anything in Australia that refers to any of the models being called that !

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