Upgrading Headunit to Columbus?

[SashaGrace]

You need the head unit. The screen is just a screen. The radio HU will need CP removed and features re activated. It’s only the 8 inch screens that work plug and play with the MIB2’s.

[NateC]

Ok thanks, it's a dealership that removes the cp, right?

[AWilson]

Hi all,

 

Sorry to re-ignite this thread, I know this has been mentioned several times previously but I just wanted to double check my understanding is correct before ordering an incompatible screen!

 

I have what I believe to be a MIB 2 Amundsen 6.5" screen. Please correct me if I am wrong, image attached.

 

What are my screen upgrade options? Am I correct in thinking I have the choice of the pre FL Columbus (5E0919606) or the FL Amundsen (5E0919605M)?

Car is a MY17 Octavia VRS.

 

Apart from just removing the existing screen with the standard DIN tools, is there anything else required? 

 

Thanks,

Angelo

 

 

[417original]

I believe that is correct from what I’ve read on here. I have just upgraded my screen to what I think is the FL 8inch version (with soft buttons) and it’s gone straight in no problem. As mentioned in this thread, the only thing that doesn’t work is the App button.

 

which leads me to a question please - I haven’t unlocked CarPlay at the dealers yet but wondering if there is now a solution to get the app button working (on what I believe is an amundsen mib2)

[SashaGrace]

6 hours ago, 417original said:

I believe that is correct from what I’ve read on here. I have just upgraded my screen to what I think is the FL 8inch version (with soft buttons) and it’s gone straight in no problem. As mentioned in this thread, the only thing that doesn’t work is the App button.

 

which leads me to a question please - I haven’t unlocked CarPlay at the dealers yet but wondering if there is now a solution to get the app button working (on what I believe is an amundsen mib2)

Unfortunately not if you have a 5Q0035874A Amundsen from 2016 but if you have a 5Q0035874B Amundsen from 2017 you just need a firmware update.

[417original]

Hmm that is sad - I’m sure my ocd will win me over eventually and I’ll have to replace the screen for one that works fully!

[deded]

In Octavia III 5/2016, I exchanged the Amundsen display for a Columbus diplay. The control works, diplay displays, but the image is very dark with little contrast. :-(

 

[Constantine28]

On 31/08/2018 at 23:11, SashaGrace said:

The screen is plug and play on MIB2 units as they all run 480x800 resolution, but the headunit is a bit more complex. The connections are plug and play but there will be component protection and coding to do. Bolero’s do not have nav so it’ll be an Amundsen unless it already has a Columbus. If it’s a MIB1 Amundsen and you can’t be doing with the small screen then a Columbus would be a good way to go or as I have done, a MIB2 Amundsen. If it has a MIB2 Amudsen I would leave as is unless you really want the CD player back as the 8 inch screen is plug and play so you could plug the Columbus screen into the Amundsen and it’ll work with no coding required. I have an Amundsen with a Columbus screen and it’s great

Hi, can you help one more?! I have this MIB with navi on it, but my question, is it this Bolero or Amundsen? Possible to update? I add here photo! Aaa en one more, after the activation for reara camera, the navi doesn't work and says that is not suported! Know something about error?!Thx

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[Constantine28]

1 minute ago, Constantine28 said:

Hi, can you help one more?! I have this MIB with navi on it, but my question, is it this Bolero or Amundsen? Possible to update? I add here photo! Aaa en one more, after the activation for reara camera, the navi doesn't work and says that is not suported! Know something about error?!Thx

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[Constantine28]

3 minutes ago, Constantine28 said:

Hi, can you help one more?! I have this MIB with navi on it, but my question, is it this Bolero or Amundsen? Possible to update? I add here photo! Aaa en one more, after the activation for reara camera, the navi doesn't work and says that is not suported! Know something about error?!Thx

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[PetrolDave]

5 minutes ago, Constantine28 said:

Hi, can you help one more?! I have this MIB with navi on it, but my question, is it this Bolero or Amundsen? Possible to update? I add here photo! Aaa en one more, after the activation for reara camera, the navi doesn't work and says that is not suported! Know something about error?!Thx

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If you had/have Navi then it's not a Bolero, looks like a MIB1 Amundsen to me in that case.

 

BTW .heic files need a special app to open them, far better to post .jpg pictures

[Constantine28]

10 minutes ago, PetrolDave said:

If you had/have Navi then it's not a Bolero, looks like a MIB1 Amundsen to me in that case.

 

BTW .heic files need a special app to open them, far better to post .jpg pictures

 

[Constantine28]

12 minutes ago, Constantine28 said:

 

 

[Constantine28]

33 minutes ago, PetrolDave said:

If you had/have Navi then it's not a Bolero, looks like a MIB1 Amundsen to me in that case.

 

BTW .heic files need a special app to open them, far better to post .jpg pictures

I add shome photo, if you can look, but do you know if is it possible to change the display, or only the Mib 2....... thank you a lot and an good fay Sir

[TimmyB]

I'm looking to replace my MIB2 Amundsen screen with a MIB2 Columbus (5E0919606)

I've seen a screen on ebay but the item description states "Only screen, no frame".

Would I need a frame for this replacement, or will I have one from my existing Amundsen?

[PetrolDave]

4 hours ago, Constantine28 said:

I add some photo, if you can look, but do you know if is it possible to change the display, or only the Mib 2....... thank you a lot and an good fay Sir

I also have a MIB1 Amundsen and have been told by the experts that you cannot just change the display with a MIB1 Amundsen - they've tried it and you get multiple images not one better image.

[Giannis1981]

Hello guys, I have a question if you can help. One friend gave me bigger screen for my multimedia and I plugged it in and the result is this in the photo, the only different from mine is the screen inch. 

[CormacVrs]

It looks like the head unit in your car is an MIB 1 and the new screen is MIB 2, the resolution is different between the two

[Giannis1981]

Can I make it work or is better to leave it? 

[CormacVrs]

I don’t think you can make it work but I stand to be corrected on that. I’d find out what head unit you have and buy a bigger screen that fits, I’ve done it and it’s well worth doing 

[Giannis1981]

7 hours ago, CormacVrs said:

The Panasonic one is my head unit and  Harman is from the bigger screen. Harman has issue on the processor. 

 

[Giannis1981]

Hello again does anyone know if i can fit in my panasonic headunit biger screen without change my headunit?

[GamesGoblin]

Hi all

 

I hope this is the right thread for this query

 

I have a 2018 Skoda Octavia 3 TSI L&K - the car was affected by flood and most of its electrical modules were destroyed

 

The car had the canton sound system with amplifier under the seat. Here are the part numbers of the original parts of the car (all destroyed)

 

screen - 5E0919605M
radio control unit - 5Q0035864C
amplifier - 81A035223

 

When replacing the radio, I bought the larger Columbus system. Here are the part numbers of the newly installed items

 

screen - 5E0919606D
radio control unit - 565035021C
amplifier - 81A035223 (same as original)

 

all the three replacement items were in used condition

 

The new radio is working, but I'm unable to get audio output - VCDS cannot communicate to the amplifier (47 sound system).

 

I checked the coupler to the amplifier (underneath the front passenger seat) and there is no optical light coming.

 

For reference, I looked at another Octavia 3 (diesel L&K) with canton sound system - looked at the coupler coming to the amplifier and I can see the red light coming through the optical line

 

For checking, I plugged my own amplifier into this car and it was working fine

 

Any pointers on how to solve this problem? I'm not sure if the donor car had the canton sound system - so could the coding in 5F be changed to make it recognize the amplifier?

Here are the fault codes in my car

 

in the gateway

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 530 L    HW: 3Q0 907 530 C
   Component: GW MQB High   436 4326  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0007637616
   Coding: 0101000874085900EB00020A1C0F00000001070000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewNF 013044
   ROD: EV_GatewNF_VW37.rod
   VCID: 382928FD22D0751B773-806C

   Generator: 

3 Faults Found 
131695 - Digital sound System control module 
          U106A 00 [009] - No Communication
          [Timeout Knoten 0x6F / 47 - Steuergerät für digitales Soundpaket]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 20494 km
                    Date: 2020.12.14
                    Time: 03:31:32

                    Terminal 30 power supply: 13.5 V
                    Terminal 15: On

197169 - Controls in Steering Wheel 
          U108E 00 [009] - No Communications
          [MFL (LIN#2) Timeout]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 20494 km
                    Date: 2020.12.14
                    Time: 03:31:32

                    Terminal 30 power supply: 13.6 V
                    Terminal 15: On

15360512 - Component Protection 
          U1101 00 [009] - Active
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 20494 km
                    Date: 2020.12.14
                    Time: 03:31:32

                    Terminal 30 power supply: 13.5 V
                    Terminal 15: On


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

in the 5F information electronics

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 3V0-035-MIB-HGH2.clb
   Part No SW: 565 035 021 E    HW: 565 035 021 
   Component: MU-H-LND-EU   H55 1440  
   Serial number: A853K0JB081800
   Coding: 0373510EFF00000041111202008002332F0103C401200500FF
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig4CGen2HBAS 001001
   ROD: EV_MUHig4CGen2HBAS_AU37.rod
   VCID: 1079B05D6AE08D5B1F3-8044

   Display and control head 1 for information electronics: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5E0 919 606 D    HW: 5E0 919 606 D
   Component: ABT_High-2  H50 9130 
   Serial number: SKZ6ZHT2653533      

   Data carrier: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: V03 959 801 KD    HW: -----------
   Component: ROW 2018  --- 0068 
   Serial number: --------------------

   Compact disc data bank: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 EG    HW: -----------
   Component: Gracenote2  --- 1017 
   Serial number: --------------------

12 Faults Found 
1555 - Check Software Version Management 
          B201A 00 [009] - -
          [Check software version management]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 20494 km
                    Date: 2020.12.14
                    Time: 03:31:40

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.9 V
                    Status_Software_Version_Management-module_name: MDUK623/Main    

15360768 - Component Protection 
          U1101 00 [009] - Active
          [Anti-theft protection - component protection active (0xEA6300)]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 20494 km
                    Date: 2020.12.14
                    Time: 03:31:34

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.9 V

0013 - Antenna Amplifier 1 for Digital Radio 
          B1270 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 20494 km
                    Date: 2020.12.14
                    Time: 03:31:35

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.9 V
                    Status of digital radio antenna 1-Antenna current: 0 mA
                    Status of digital radio antenna 1-Connection between radio and antenna amplifier: Open circuit
                    Status of digital radio antenna 1-Connection between antenna amplifier and antenna: Not available
                    Status of digital radio antenna 1-DAB_Bit_Error_Rate_FIC: 16.777215
                    Status of digital radio antenna 1-DAB_Bit_Error_Rate_MSC: 16.777215

3073 - Cellular Antenna 
          B1053 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          [GSM/UMTS aerial - open circuit]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 20494 km
                    Date: 2020.12.14
                    Time: 03:31:35

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.9 V

3084 - GSM antenna 2 
          B1533 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 20494 km
                    Date: 2020.12.14
                    Time: 03:31:35

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.9 V

3077 - Telephone baseplate 
          B1051 13 [009] - Open Circuit
          [Bracket for mobile phone holder - open circuit]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 20494 km
                    Date: 2020.12.14
                    Time: 03:31:34

                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.9 V

7173 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [ACC (0x05) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 20494 km
                    Date: 2020.12.14
                    Time: 03:31:36

                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.0 V
                    BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02

7179 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [Rear-view camera (0x0B) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 20494 km
                    Date: 2020.12.14
                    Time: 03:31:36

                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.0 V
                    BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02

7191 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [Driving mode selection (0x17) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 20494 km
                    Date: 2020.12.14
                    Time: 03:31:36

                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.0 V
                    BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02

7195 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [Brake assist system (0x1B) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 20494 km
                    Date: 2020.12.14
                    Time: 03:31:36

                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.0 V
                    BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02

7199 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [Reversible belt tensioner (0x1F) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 20494 km
                    Date: 2020.12.14
                    Time: 03:31:36

                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.0 V
                    BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02

7207 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          [Start/stop reasons (0x27) - function restriction due to communication error - BapErr_retry not successful]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 231
                    Mileage: 20494 km
                    Date: 2020.12.14
                    Time: 03:31:36

                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.0 V
                    BAP-BAP_Function_ID: 02


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Do let me know if you need any additional info

 

Best Regards

Edited 4 July, 2021 by GamesGoblin
typo

[varaderoguy]

I would suggest that you might first want to get the Component Protection removed first.  The MIB system has in essence gone into lock down and will not start up its individual communication components until this issue is solved.  Fix CP first - you can either get the unit jail-broken or you can go to your Skoda Dealer and get them to fix it (about an hour on ODIS).

 

Other thoughts - have you connected the optical connection into the correct connection on the back of the MIB system (I think it is the grey connector)?  Other thoughts could be a failed fibre optic connector.

[GamesGoblin]

1 hour ago, varaderoguy said:

I would suggest that you might first want to get the Component Protection removed first.  The MIB system has in essence gone into lock down and will not start up its individual communication components until this issue is solved.  Fix CP first - you can either get the unit jail-broken or you can go to your Skoda Dealer and get them to fix it (about an hour on ODIS).

 

Other thoughts - have you connected the optical connection into the correct connection on the back of the MIB system (I think it is the grey connector)?  Other thoughts could be a failed fibre optic connector.

 

Hi

 

thank you for the reply!

 

I believe the radio in my car is a hacked (or jail broken as you mentioned) unit - the guy selling it to me told me that he would make the necessary adjustments so that the radio would be plug and play on my car

 

And sure enough, the unit did work straight away when I installed it onto the car (without needing to lift the CP) - I'm able to use all the features of the unit - radio, nav, android auto etc

 

correct me if I'm mistaken - if the unit isn't jailbroken, nothing would work unless the component protection is lifted, right?

 

I'm a bit new to the MQB infotainment system as my other car is an Octavia II - and all that needed was a simple radio code when the head unit was replaced and everything worked perfectly after that 

 

On the connector - I'll double check the connections again - but I seem to remember that there was no optical light shining on the back of my radio unit (the one in the glove box)

 

I'll remove it and check again

 

Thanks again & Best Regards

 

P.S. - I have saved the scan log and adaptation map of the diesel Oct 3 I mentioned earlier- should I compare the adaptation channels (5F) of that car with mine?