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well i am like a dog with 2 d(%sjust been told the car is complete and is in transit and will have it within 4 weeks at the latest.mind you i will believe it when i get the keys for it in my hand.so i hope all of us get good news like me.model ordered was octavia vrs 4x4 estate,black diesel 2.00 ,200 bhp.may 21 2021.looking just over 14 months i have waited.i think i will pop dow to the local to have a couple of pints or more.

195 miles - don't take the battery off!! 🙄 The Op's obviously done you the world of good - you look like a changed man, and those light blue denim shorts really bring out your hair colour 😁😇 Gaz

First post here. Been following this thread since mid Sept 2021 when I ordered my SEL 1.5 TSI Estate, and was starting to regret my choice! Pleased to report I have been told it will now be in the UK in 4 weeks. It's been 90% complete for months so happy it's finally done. There is hope, people 😀

sorry guys, been getting busier as I get better ☺️ Things have been going ok. It’s taking longer for the pain to subside this time, but then again they did take out two heart valves! Still hurts to sneeze, but now a 2/10 rather than a 9/10 kinda pain. Had an echocardiogram down at the heart institute a few weeks ago, which went well. I do have my first, proper face-2-face appointment with my consultant on the 5th July, which will also be a full-body checkup. Getting to grips with the eating restrictions due to the Warfarin was initially a PITA but got to grips with it now. I have the mobile INR check machine and just need to get it calibrated by the warfarin clinic and then I can stop needing a GP appointment every 10 days or so. As it’s now been over 6 weeks since the op I can now drive again, wahoo!! As it turns out, the first day I was allowed to drive was the day I needed to pick up the camper van for Glastonbury from Devon. My boss on site wouldn’t let me work but did insist that I came along anyway and continued my recovery with my festival family 🥰 Drove Zee’s car to Devon, van home to Bristol, load up and down to Glastonbury all in a weekend. No adverse reactions It was a hard week for me as although I didn’t work at all (except a bit of help in the office) I did get my step count up and over 10k a day, which is well beyond anything I had walked up to that point. Understandably, I was knackered come the evening so was in bed by 11/12 most evenings with very limited drinking (I normally take around 120 cans of cider for the week, but only took 40 this year) I’m now also allowed to lift up to 10kg and can start to swim, so gonna pull out the months free gym membership I’ve got sat waiting and get building up some strength and cardiovascular fitness. On the car front, she started first time, albeit a bit lazy. Understandable given she’s been stoop up for nearly 8 weeks so might whip the battery off and give it a good charge. Minimum smoke on start up, which was a nice black puff. No hint of blue. Yay! Time will tell when I drive her maybe later today or tomorrow. Gotta drop the camper back to Devon tomorrow and will get Zee to follow me down in my car, which is a nice ~195 mile motorway trip and will do it the world of good, so may not take the battery off on second thoughts! Edit: too many words without pictures IMO!

Not sure if I’ve put this on yet but I’ve now fitted a roof rack and bike holders (Yakima flush bars in black and Thule ProRide mounts) My 1.4 iV SEL estate in petrol blue with optional wheels (still 17 as I wanted comfort but the standard wheels are awful).

Just an update on this thread. I've been to the garage this afternoon and they reckon that they can patch it on the ends of the sill for £200-£300 and the inner sill is unaffected and the centre of the outer sill is still sound. He reckoned that to replace the whole sill would therefore be excessive and unnecessary. Just need to decide what to do now I guess. Thanks to everyone for the help and advice 👍

When I bought my current car, I bought it with the intention that it would be my last car, as I intended to look after it and keep it for many years. It will most likely be my last ICE car, unless either something catastrophic happens to it, or something unforeseen happens and EV use suddenly gets much more expensive. But I can see me driving an EV if I do have to replace my Octavia. Our needs and desires all change with age, and continue to change. You don't just stop changing with you hit 30, more's the pity. I'm pretty sure by the time I'm in an EV (probably some time in my late 60's at the earliest), I'll be delighted with it, and will have the spare time to chill-out while it charges. But right now, I really like my brum-brum ICE car, even if it's not as nippy as an EV. I don't mean to get all pseduy about it, but I like the feeling that it's somehow alive when it starts up. I wouldn't describe myself as a petrolhead, but there is always a slight visceral pleasure in starting up an ICE and hearing it idle contentedly. Maybe I'm a bit weird, but I really like the sound IC engines make. I suppose this is why Skoda piped fake engine noise into the vRS. (Do they still do that in the MkIV vRS?) I think I'd miss that in an EV, but as I get older, I think I'll miss it less.

Gonna throw something out there. The chance of a spring failure with these is similar to a bearing failure with spacers.

What a load of codswallop... We has spring assitors on the back or our mkii Octavia 4x4 Estate for 13 years with no problems and no broken springs. Tbey firmed the back end up nicely and made a big difference to stability and clearance when usi g a tow bar mounted bike rack with four bikes on it. For the money they cost they were great and I'd recommend them.

My last Mk3 PFL Octy vRS (63 plate), bought it in May 2020 with 41K miles full Skoda history for £9250 private sale (of the century!). Sold to a car buying service in Feb 2022 with 51K miles for £13,750 ( £250 lower than WBAC website offer, but no quibble collected from home). It ended up in a Renault / Dacia / Citroen main dealers who put it on the market at £16,995, they then lowered price to £15,something and now still for sale down to £14,358. That will teach them for getting greedy at start, there is no way they didn't pay more than that off car buying ones hahahaha. I am semi tempted to buy it back as they do 2 years free servicing with used cars and warranty etc then what they don't know is that I still have a major service pre-paid for on a service plan for that car. If they drop price again, it could be the perfect crime lol

i feel for you i went through this and was angry about everything.now you having been through this for around 2 months longer and are still waiting for your car is beyond me.as you say many thousands of people have got there cars and waited far shorter time than you.it show you what a complete shambles skoda is in how can any one get a car sooner than people who have orders in months and months is beyond me.just hope you get your car soon and have no problems with it.

Signed final paperwork for mine today. Hoping it arrives at dealer in time to pick up this week. If not be next week.

Ahaha this sh!t is unbeliveable xD 14 and a half months and still waiting for a fu*king car. Car that is parked for months god knows where, waiting for part/s. Part that is already installed in 50000+ other cars and not in mine. And 99% of them ordered after me Absolute madness 🤦‍♂️

The iV is worth it if you are a) a company car driver and b) do a lot of short journeys and occasional long ones. I have one. Most of my journeys are sub 30 miles including my work mileage. My my current electric tariff i average about 6.5p per mile on the electric. I can get to local towns and Leeds on electric and most if not all the way back as well. I get 14p a mile back on business miles so it works out ok but I don’t do many business miles. It doesn’t charge very fast but I’ve had no issues using only a 3 pin plug and charge it up every time I use it. We occasionally do trips to the coast (200mikes) or UK holidays (maybe 7-800 miles) in remote places where we need to petrol engine. I have found worse case is about 45mpg on petrol only. The shorter the trip the more the battery helps to reduce consumption but it still acts as a MHEV when fully discharged so that’s pretty good. I’ve never charged it away from home personally. If you were buying it with your own money I wouldn’t bother as it’s a costly car and you could get similar mpg from a petrol - the extra cost of the iV would make up and less MPG for many years!! It suits my journeys very well but I did think long and hard about it. I really wanted a Focus estate but a MHEV one was still going to be over £100 a month in BIK tax plus contribution of £130 for the spec I wanted whereas the Octavia is £15 tax plus £145 contribution ish. So I pay about £160 a month for it but the comparable focus would have been £230 at least. I went for an SEL model with a couple of options so I have a really luxurious car for a bargain price compared to some of my other options. Also it has 205bhp combined so it’s also easily the fastest option for the money I was willing to spend. You’ve just got to be honest about how you use a car and do the numbers for your own situation. My car would not work well for someone who commuted 60 miles a day, had nowhere to charge at work and paid for the car themselves - a diesel or petrol may be better.

I'm sure once I got used to an EV, I'd love it and would never look back.

Yes they will help. They have done exactly what they are designed to do for decades now. Some will say no way. Try a search / google. briskoda grayston spring assisters there are several threads in different forums. http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/493891-rear-spring-assisters-upgrade

The real early 1999 Fabia's that came through the dealers as W plates were very, very well put together like you say. The underbody coatings were hugely thick, especially compared to the then still current Felicia models. They really did go OTT on the protection of the early ones. Mind you the same was true of early Octavias, they were tank like in their assembly, only getting cheaper parts and less spec as they got longer in their production run.

Another from this year’s Glastonbury I’d like to photoshop out the two three people closest to the camera as I reckon it would make for a much cleaner picture, but never used it before. Might have a bash anyway.

Moved the yeti conversation to the yeti forum: https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/505186-converting-headlights-from-lhd-to-rhd/

A couple from Attenborough nature reserve

A few from a local car show this afternoon. The star of the show for me was the Citroen SM - must have looked like a spaceship in the early 70s!

The next job started on a whim, and does nothing to improved the looks, performance, or reliability of the Caddy. In truth it could be said to be a pointless waste of time and effort, except it makes me smile, which is the whole point of this project really. My history with Morris Minors has led to something which is becoming a tradition with my builds, which is that I try to incorporate a part from a Minor into every project. On my Ibiza I use a Minor light switch for map switching, and on the Caddy I had the idea to fit a Minor horn. The horn fitted to 1950s Minors was a huge steampunk thing, with a deep, klaxon-like sound, just what the Caddy needs. I still have a few Minor parts in my lock-up, so the next time I went over there I retrieved this. I last owned a Minor almost 20 years ago, and this horn and another had been sat in the lock-up ever since. It looked like it too. More in hope than expectation I stripped the ends of the wires and connected 12v, but my expectations were proved correct, and no sound ensued. That would have been just too easy. Before taking the horn apart, I gave the casing a good clean. Inside, there really is not much to go wrong. A bit of attention from some sandpaper on the contacts, followed by a drop of oil on the armature shaft, was all it took to restore function. Whilst the casing was apart it was given a couple of coats of satin black Hammerite. The screw holding the casing together was quite rusty, as it was entitled to be having not been undone for perhaps 60 years. It was presumably a Whitworth or BA thread, and I did not have a direct replacement. Instead I drilled and re-tapped the mounting bracket with an M5 thread so that I could use a nice stainless countersunk screw. The wiring was tidied-up with some convoluted sleeve, and a new connector, before I reassembled the casing.

I don't like them from an engineering standpoint, and in those terms they are definitely a bodge, there are much better, appropriate, even elegant solutions out there. Grayston make helper springs, a secondary coil spring that fits inside the existing one, I used them for 13 years on my MK1 Octavia and they were great, they are also simplicity itself to fit, as easy as changing a rear spring which is dead simple. And on that note, had I known then about the range of springs fitted, their colour codes etc and also just how much the OE springs sag with age I would have fitted new uprated versions from Lesjofors which is what I have done on my MK2 Octavia and the Yeti. It sounds like the OP's springs are already sagging, fitting spacers between the coils really is not a good idea in that instance, the springs once sagging break rapidly enough on their own without assistance, all of my Skoda have had multiple broken springs, touch wood the Lesjofors replacements have not to date. There are aftermarket "airbag" type spring assistors that can be inflated up for towing, I never found anything available for my Octavias or Yeti though, hopefully someone will know different. Finally the best I have ever experienced, the simplest and most user friendly came as standard on all my Sierra Estates (in Ghia and 4x4 trim) they had Boge self levelling struts, I think they were integral with the rear dampers or maybe it was seperate, they would "pump up" with the spring deflection when heavily loaded or in my case suicidally overloaded and bring the car back to level, I could load the thing with concrete blocks, bags of sand, cement, whatever until it was dragging its ar5e like a dog with worms, right down on the bump stops, drive it a few yards over a few bumps and it would come level again, also the suspension was never stiff or harsh loaded or unloaded. Its a shame no manufacturer fits them nowadays or that they are not available as an aftermarket fitment.

I used them on my MK1 Octy estate absolutely no problems, I fitted them at the mid point of the springs, the other type you could look for are the inflatable balloons that go inside the coils, you pump them up when towing and deflate when not

I was told by my dealer that only for orders placed in april 2022 and newer the price wasn't fixed. So far noone here complained about a price increase upon delivery, except a couple of guys from Turkey if I remember correctly

Yep, i'd agree on that.

The combi valve on the engine opens to allow extra air into the combustion process for when the engine is cold to aid emiisions. having no pipe there is going to be a big issue which it would appear you have found. looks like problem resolved once you get a pipe on. 👍

@Carlston Have you seen these prematurely broken springs that had the spring assisters fitted. Is this at someplace you work at and have vehicles in requiring replacements. Over 4 decades i have driven quite a few vehicles with them fitted to tow various stuff, boats, caravans, horseboxes etc. No broken springs though. I have had broken springs on different cars / 4x4s over the years that had not Spring Assiters fitted, ............. Extreme Challenge Springs that had just been abused too often and left in the elements with salt on etc.

Grayson spring assisters will increase the rear unladen ride height, make the ride harder, and cause premature breakage of the rear springs. It really is quite an unpleasant bodge. The premature breakage is caused by a section of the spring being prevented from flexing. This causes the rest of the spring to overflex, thereby causing metal fatigue and the resultant premature breakage. Grayson spring assisters Copied from demon-tweeks The Grayston Spring Assisters give springs a helping hand when lugging loads. Designed as a temporary help for rear springs when carrying heavier loads than normal or when towing, they are progressive in operation and provide extra support to keep vehicles more level and stop wheels catching arches. They have been designed to be fitted by the normal DIY motorist and can just take a few minutes without any need for special tools - simply jack up the car, fit in between the spring gaps and carefully lower back to the ground. Choose the correct size to fit the spring gap (measured in the middle of the spring when vehicle is jacked up): GE13 Suits 18 to 25mm gap GE14 Suits 26 to 38mm gap GE15 Suits 39 to 51mm gap GE15A Suits 51 to 65mm gap Supplied individually (one required for each spring). https://www.demon-tweeks.com/grayston-spring-assister-277238/?sku=GRYGE14&istCompanyId=a2904180-3a7d-4e56-b876-cf81c9512180&istFeedId=6fbc4b04-fd28-4ce1-8513-835c8f118690&istItemId=wptppxmlr&istBid=t&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpd_xrtjQ-AIVjN_tCh2qvw1nEAQYASABEgL3oPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds It's much better to select the correct springs for the load you wish to carry. If you currently have rear springs with OEM part number 5Q0511121AF, then going up one level to 5Q0511121AG would make the rear springs a little bit stiffer. Rear springs for Octavia MK3 with standard ride height (1) 5Q0 511 121 AF coil spring 2 PR-1JA+0YF (1) 5Q0 511 121 AG coil spring 2 PR-1JA+0YG (1) 5Q0 511 121 AH coil spring 2 PR-1JA+0YH https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/octavia/oct/2016-753/5/511-511000/ Eibach R19354 5Q0511121AF Length 347mm, Wire diameter 11.5mm https://www.autodoc.co.uk/eibach/17876014 Eibach R17296 5Q0511121AG Length 348mm, Wire diameter 11.75mm https://www.autodoc.co.uk/eibach/18112497

Mine is also built 2.0 TSI - Side assist, canton, double glazed windows, family pack etc. Ordered 7th of October 2021. Around 2-3 weeks delivery.

Today we did 61 miles in hybrid mode. Using the car's computed data we used £5 of petrol and 90p of electricity, ie just under 10p/mile. Our Karoq cost nearly 18p/mile, when petrol was 'cheap'.

All sounds very encouraging 👍

Currently the 800V battery systems are limited to 250kW charging (No idea if this will go up in the future with a software update).

Yeah, won't hurt to look/change

Yes, I think a tester in Finland did a swerve test with passengers and the passenger moving sideways caused the buckle to press into other button and release it. They had to redesign and change it on Ibiza, Arona, Polo and maybe others. My Arona was done free, as it was deemed a safety recall. So all seatbelt buckle faults will be done under warranty unless deliberately abused.

I think I will give them a try. Just need to find out what size I need now?

Step by step tutorial how to repair broken Skoda Superb II (may also apply to Octavia II) electric tailgate lift strut. Most common reason for faulty struts are moisture damage in electric motor and rusty brush springs. In this video you can see how to open electric motor, clean rust, fabricate new springs and glue all back together. I have videotaped whole process and you can see it in here:

Pretty sure on a '22 car TSR is now a FeC/SWaP/parameter issue so enabling it with VCDS is no longer an option. You probably need a specialist with the correct tools, @East_Yorkshire_Retrofits might be able to advise further

I talked to my dealer (No! Not drugs...🤪) He said that my car was put out for production in week 37.... So... We will see what happens... I don´t belive it before it is confirmed

thanks! yea i was surprised there was so little out there, hopefully this helps for future reference 🙂 oh man, those little clips are so brittle! i swear i broke one from staring at it too long! lol shifter is a "nero", has the branding on the back which im not a huge fan of but its pretty much invisible when in use. was originally looking at bfi and other high end ones but just couldnt justify the price, so after a short search on universal ones the momo popped up and sparked a whole bunch of old memories. ended up getting this near new one for half price off the local "hock and hope" website... actually i think you guys have gumtree too 😂 yep, spot on! made a HUGE difference to feel and shift even tho this one isnt that heavy at all. the stock one had me thinking the gates or links needed to be redone but after the swap its been great! was originally thinking of a short shifter but i dont feel i need it anymore 👌 highly recommended to anyone thinking about doing it, ditch the flakey chrome stocko one!

Octavia MK3 front springs 1 5Q0 411 105 GF coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark blue orange 2 (1) 5Q0 411 105 GG coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark blue red 2 PR-L02 (1) 5Q0 411 105 GH coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark blue violet 2 PR-L03 (1) 5Q0 411 105 GJ coil spring 2 paint marks blue 2 PR-L04 (1) 5Q0 411 105 GK coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark blue green 2 PR-L05 (1) 5Q0 411 105 GL coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark blue brown 2 PR-L06 (1) 5Q0 411 105 GM coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark blue grey 2 PR-L07 (1) 5Q0 411 105 GN coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark green white 2 PR-L08 (1) 5Q0 411 105 GP coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark green yellow 2 PR-L09 (1) 5Q0 411 105 GQ coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark green orange 2 PR-L10 (1) 5Q0 411 105 GS coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark green violet 2 PR-L12 (1) 5Q0 411 105 GT coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark green blue 2 PR-L13 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HA coil spring 2 paint marks green 2 PR-L14 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HB coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark green brown 2 PR-L15 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HC coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark green grey 2 PR-L16 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HD coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark brown white 2 PR-L17 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HE coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark brown yellow 2 PR-L18 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HF coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark brown orange 2 PR-L19 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HG coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark 2 PR-L20 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HJ coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark blue brown 2 PR-L23 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HK coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark brown green 2 PR-L24 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HL coil spring 2 paint marks brown 2 PR-L25 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HM coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark brown grey 2 PR-L26 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HN coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark grey yellow 2 PR-L27 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HP coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark grey orange 2 PR-L28 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HQ coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark grey red 2 PR-L29 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HR coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark grey violet 2 PR-L30 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HS coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark grey blue 2 PR-L31 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HT coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark grey green 2 PR-L32 (1) 5Q0 411 105 KM coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark 1 paint mark white orange green 2 PR-L33 (1) 5Q0 411 105 KN coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark 1 paint mark white orange brown 2 PR-L34 (1) 5Q0 411 105 KP coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark 1 paint mark white orange grey 2 PR-L35 https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/octavia/oct/2016-753/4/411-411030/ 5Q0411105HS PR-L31 (1) 5Q0 411 105 HS coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark grey blue 2 PR-L31 Length 326mm, Diameter 152mm, Weight 2.05kg, Wire Diameter 13.00mm 5Q0411105HS looks like a Scout front spring, as it's considerably longer and heavier than many of the other front springs on the Octavia MK3. There don't appear to be any aftermarket springs matching OEM part numbers 5Q0411105KM, 5Q0411105KN and 5Q0411105KP. However, on the chart above you can see that they correspond to build codes L33, L34, and L35, respectively. Your build codes would confirm what type of suspension the car left the factory with. The chart below shows that build code 2UB = Rough-road design, and build code 2UF = Chassis with increased ride height. VW Codes Decoder 2UA = Standard design 2UB = Rough-road design 2UC = Sports version 2UF = Chassis with increased ride height http://igorweb.org/equidec.aspx

Now sorted found one to fit on ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115033366604?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 He has quite a range of different wheel nut keys if any one else finds they need one. Thanks for all the replies

sorry. It's all well and good showing a map of charging points, but as @TheWandererhas already pointed out in his requirements (and in the vast majority of peoples' as well) the charge times are a current issue. Worst case scenario at peak times, you're looking at a little bit of queueing outside the petrol station forecourt, few minutes to fuel up and then possibly another few minutes idling in the shop itself. 20 minutes or so. Until this charging network gets sorted, get it wrong with forgetting to charge and it could see you desperately looking for a charger. But don't worry, the AA has a plan already.....

They will never be the fuel for everyone. But if you are middle aged you can probably carry on driving cars already built now or on the next 8 years for the rest of your life or driving life. Ps. No point watching a blogger / blogger on a track. Watch those like the one posting trips with his caravan from the Scottish island in his KIA EV6. Or speak to ones like I do towing vans in Scotland with Tesla's. Pathetic range, and pita getting the car charged with van unhitched. It takes all sorts though. @tunedude This BRISKODA member is a bit better clued up than your neighbour it seems or luckier and pays for the charge when needed and maybe helped by the cheaper rate that came with the card you got with the Enyaq. There is no doubt travelling by EV takes more thought /planning, but for a business users the financial saving can be high. I have met recently long distance travellers going back to ICE vehicles. I do not use my EV with a small range if in a hurry / emergency like a family crisis where i have no time to mess about saving money i just splash the cash on petrol, & then i have my 26 mpg diesel for towing.

Not wishing to be confrontational, just genuinely interested- What gives EV drivers the right to expect free charging? Someone is ultimately paying for it. For example, I was on (volunteer) car park duty at our local theatre which shares a car park with a business premises, the latter having several charging points. When an audience member EV driver expecting to use one saw the notices on the charging points which said they were only for staff and customers of the business, much verbal abuse ensued, aimed at me! (OK, I was wearing a hi-vis jacket, but no jobsworth comments, please!)

A couple from Snetterton yesterday.

That box is to tick and then you can set the Winter Tyres Speed Warning at the speed you want it to warn at. You have another speed Warning as well as the winter tyre one you can set. There are countries that require the warning by law, that might just need a sticker, but it is standard on VW Group cars.

Erm, nope. I've been conscripted into substantial DIY renovations at home, structural work, new Kitchen etc so the Fabia is languishing in the garage under the cover still. I'm being nagged at now by everyone to get it finished and on the road soon, so hopefully it'll be mobile this year. Hopefully. Fingers crossed.... In other news I sold my 1969 Mini and replaced it with a 1991 Mercedes-Benz 260e W124, so with that being nearer the garage door is being used for local shows and classic meets etc, further pushing the Fabia into retirement.

I liked the watch analogy too. I wouldn't say never, but certainly not in the near future. Although it's very hard to put my finger on exactly why that is. I have a £9.99 Casio watch having ruined nicer ones previously. I've a Dyson cordless, an e-bike, cordless drills, a battery powered mower, mobility scooter, cordless hair trimmer (Pandemic purchase) and electric toothbrush, so everything says I should like EV's. But I find myself unable to warm to them. We went to my Cousin's for the first time last year for a belated housewarming. He has two toys; a 2CV and a TVR Griffith 500. It didn't leave the garage, but he fired up the TVR. Had the garage had a Tesla and a Leaf in it, I'd have undoubtedly been impressed by the technology, but ultimately neither would have the phwoar! factor of the TVR's rumble. We recently needed a new washing machine. Our Ecobubble went tits up. I did my usual and looked for the 'best 2022...' with a view to upgrading. Sally went out, and came back with the second cheapest basic Beko. There's only the two of us, our washing is never truly dirty, and it's used twice a week. the saleswoman said (quite rightly) that we didn't need anything fancy and her Beko was now five years old. It's a great washing machine and the cycle we use is only 28 minutes. Do I look back at the washing machine after I've emptied it and think oooh? No I do not. I think I'd feel the same way about an EV. I used to notice Tesla's, but now I don't. I still notice vRs's, and if I see a sprint yellow one, it makes my day. I watched the chap (Robert?) from Fully Charged with his 2011, owned from new, blue Leaf. And found myself thinking what a brilliant purchase that was. Newly retired, it'd probably suit me to the ground. But I'd still rather get in my GTI if I'm going out for a tootle. Gaz

Was wondering the same.