Does the Sportline have stiffer suspension?

[JR RS]

i keep banging on.....but there r different spring sets for AWD vs FWD, and liftback vs wagon.

 

E10-79 series is for wagons/kombis (3V5)

E10-85 series is for liftbacks/hatchbacks (3V3)

 

E10-79-012-03-22 - Superb Kombi 3V5

E10-79-012-04-22 - Superb Kombi 3V5 AWD

 

E10-85-042-02-22 - Superb 3V3 Hatchback

E10-85-042-03-22 - Superb 3V3 Hatchback AWD

[MartiniB]

why limit yourself by kits, when Eibach Pro springs can be ordered separately?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 8 February, 2023 by MartiniB

[fencer]

 

So, first thing: JR RS is absolutely right. There are two Eibach Pro-Kits for the Superb, one for the liftback and one for the wagon, with the numbers as he says. I bought the wagon version (for my liftback), despite the retailer saying it was specifically for the lift back. So something to be aware of. The rear springs on the wagon version are 5mm higher than the front springs.

 

However, that mistake turned out to be a blessing, at least for my tastes.

 

(All subsequent measurements in my post are hub to guard)

 

The Superb AWD standard ride height is 380mm, both front and rear. A major issue in my eyes is that the body shape design, when both front and rear ride heights are the same, has a very definite 'nose-down' stance and the back end of the vehicle looks like it's sticking up in the air. If you allow your eye to follow the bottom sill line between the front and rear wheels, it is not level with the ground, with a pronounced slant towards the front. This is a design aesthetic by the Skoda designers and it may not bother some people, but it is something I have never liked. I prefer a car to have a flatter stance.

 

The front springs (F11-85-042-03-FA) in the Pro-Kit deliver a front height of 350mm. The rear springs from the Pro-Kit delivers also 350mm for the lift back or 355mm if you buy the wagon version.

 

In my opinion, 350mm at the front is too aggressive. At least here in SA, crossing spoon drains and even getting up some ramps, it is very difficult to avoid scraping the front underside of the vehicle. I realise this is a personal view and many others may really like that ride height, and that's perfectly fine. I don't believe it fully suits this type of vehicle and it certainly has practicality issues.

 

As I said earlier I also mixed this with wagon springs (on my liftback, because I made the mistake of buying the wrong set, d'oh!), so the rear was sitting at 355mm, and just further accentuating the nose-down, bum-up stance of the vehicle overall. However, I actually really like the rear ride height of the vehicle with those rear springs and I am glad I didn't get the correct kit, as I think 355mm (rather than 350mm) looks perfect. Again, personal opinion.

 

After contacting Eibach Australia and discussing it, I resolved this by fitting revised front springs (F11-85-043-02-FA) which have been discussed in the forum here. I left the existing Eibach rear springs in place.

 

 

This has raised the front to 370mm. The rear remains at 355mm. I am now happy with the result as it achieves two outcomes: first the front definitely has more clearance and is more practical to drive in everyday situations. Second it has removed the pronounced nose-down stance the vehicle had before and made it sit flatter overall (no more rear end sticking up). Handling changes are almost imperceptible at speed and slightly more compliant over speed humps at slow speed.

 

The gap between tyre and guard is now slightly wider on the front compared to the rear which may play with some people's OCD. But as you can see from the pic above, you really have to be a train spotter to notice and I happily take that given the vehicle now sits flatter in stance overall.

 

 As MartiniB states above, you can order separately rather than as a kit, and in hindsight I would have done that from the start.

 

[Donweather]

1 hour ago, fencer said:

 

So, first thing: JR RS is absolutely right. There are two Eibach Pro-Kits for the Superb, one for the liftback and one for the wagon, with the numbers as he says. I bought the wagon version (for my liftback), despite the retailer saying it was specifically for the lift back. So something to be aware of. The rear springs on the wagon version are 5mm higher than the front springs.

 

However, that mistake turned out to be a blessing, at least for my tastes.

 

(All subsequent measurements in my post are hub to guard)

 

The Superb AWD standard ride height is 380mm, both front and rear. A major issue in my eyes is that the body shape design, when both front and rear ride heights are the same, has a very definite 'nose-down' stance and the back end of the vehicle looks like it's sticking up in the air. If you allow your eye to follow the bottom sill line between the front and rear wheels, it is not level with the ground, with a pronounced slant towards the front. This is a design aesthetic by the Skoda designers and it may not bother some people, but it is something I have never liked. I prefer a car to have a flatter stance.

 

The front springs (F11-85-042-03-FA) in the Pro-Kit deliver a front height of 350mm. The rear springs from the Pro-Kit delivers also 350mm for the lift back or 355mm if you buy the wagon version.

 

In my opinion, 350mm at the front is too aggressive. At least here in SA, crossing spoon drains and even getting up some ramps, it is very difficult to avoid scraping the front underside of the vehicle. I realise this is a personal view and many others may really like that ride height, and that's perfectly fine. I don't believe it fully suits this type of vehicle and it certainly has practicality issues.

 

As I said earlier I also mixed this with wagon springs (on my liftback, because I made the mistake of buying the wrong set, d'oh!), so the rear was sitting at 355mm, and just further accentuating the nose-down, bum-up stance of the vehicle overall. However, I actually really like the rear ride height of the vehicle with those rear springs and I am glad I didn't get the correct kit, as I think 355mm (rather than 350mm) looks perfect. Again, personal opinion.

 

After contacting Eibach Australia and discussing it, I resolved this by fitting revised front springs (F11-85-043-02-FA) which have been discussed in the forum here. I left the existing Eibach rear springs in place.

 

 

This has raised the front to 370mm. The rear remains at 355mm. I am now happy with the result as it achieves two outcomes: first the front definitely has more clearance and is more practical to drive in everyday situations. Second it has removed the pronounced nose-down stance the vehicle had before and made it sit flatter overall (no more rear end sticking up). Handling changes are almost imperceptible at speed and slightly more compliant over speed humps at slow speed.

 

The gap between tyre and guard is now slightly wider on the front compared to the rear which may play with some people's OCD. But as you can see from the pic above, you really have to be a train spotter to notice and I happily take that given the vehicle now sits flatter in stance overall.

 

 As MartiniB states above, you can order separately rather than as a kit, and in hindsight I would have done that from the start.

 

Thanks for the detailed response. Are you also running spacers as the tyres look relatively flush compared to OEM?

[fencer]

 

Yes, 12mm spacers. I think that makes a big difference when lowering the Superb. I would also point out that F11-85-043-02-FA front springs test 10mm lower than standard AWD OEM front springs, contrary to the spreadsheet posted by MartiniB. Additionally, Eibach springs deliver superior control and handling compared to OEM Sportline springs.

[MartiniB]

10 hours ago, fencer said:

 

the front to 370mm. The rear remains at 355mm

 

interesting, with same springs 280ps AWD's front dropped more than on my 220ps FWD,

but rear less, more over, mine got Audi pads on the top of rear springs

  

On 15/07/2022 at 12:27, MartiniB said:

distance between wheel center and arch corner
front F11-85-043-02-FA (from Audi Q2):

L. 376mm
R. 378mm

+ ~2mm if compare to stock

 

rear F11-79-008-01-HA (from 4x4):

L. 354mm

R. 354mm

- ~12mm if compare to stock

 

please add some day pictures how your looks with passengers or rear seat

mine -> https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/485647-bilstein-b6-dcc-shock-absorbers-available-at-last/?do=findComment&comment=5681084

 

 

[JR RS]

8 hours ago, MartiniB said:

 

interesting, with same springs 280ps AWD's front dropped more than on my 220ps FWD,

 

 

Weird why ur 220 dropped more with AWD springs.

R they AWD wagon version or AWD hatch version springs?

 

AWD is much heavier than FWD.

There r different set of springs for AWD vs FWD.

 

In theory, if u use AWD springs in a FWD Superb - it won't drop as much compared to using the correct FWD springs.

...and vice-versa - if u use FWD springs in a AWD Superb, it will drop more than if it had the correct AWD springs.

 

Need to get the combo right, in addition to wagon / hatch.

i.e. body shape + drive type = spring set

Edited 4 December, 2022 by JR RS

[Frankenfurter]

On 04/12/2022 at 11:37, fencer said:

 

So, first thing: JR RS is absolutely right. There are two Eibach Pro-Kits for the Superb, one for the liftback and one for the wagon, with the numbers as he says. I bought the wagon version (for my liftback), despite the retailer saying it was specifically for the lift back. So something to be aware of. The rear springs on the wagon version are 5mm higher than the front springs.

 

However, that mistake turned out to be a blessing, at least for my tastes.

 

(All subsequent measurements in my post are hub to guard)

 

The Superb AWD standard ride height is 380mm, both front and rear. A major issue in my eyes is that the body shape design, when both front and rear ride heights are the same, has a very definite 'nose-down' stance and the back end of the vehicle looks like it's sticking up in the air. If you allow your eye to follow the bottom sill line between the front and rear wheels, it is not level with the ground, with a pronounced slant towards the front. This is a design aesthetic by the Skoda designers and it may not bother some people, but it is something I have never liked. I prefer a car to have a flatter stance.

 

The front springs (F11-85-042-03-FA) in the Pro-Kit deliver a front height of 350mm. The rear springs from the Pro-Kit delivers also 350mm for the lift back or 355mm if you buy the wagon version.

 

In my opinion, 350mm at the front is too aggressive. At least here in SA, crossing spoon drains and even getting up some ramps, it is very difficult to avoid scraping the front underside of the vehicle. I realise this is a personal view and many others may really like that ride height, and that's perfectly fine. I don't believe it fully suits this type of vehicle and it certainly has practicality issues.

 

As I said earlier I also mixed this with wagon springs (on my liftback, because I made the mistake of buying the wrong set, d'oh!), so the rear was sitting at 355mm, and just further accentuating the nose-down, bum-up stance of the vehicle overall. However, I actually really like the rear ride height of the vehicle with those rear springs and I am glad I didn't get the correct kit, as I think 355mm (rather than 350mm) looks perfect. Again, personal opinion.

 

After contacting Eibach Australia and discussing it, I resolved this by fitting revised front springs (F11-85-043-02-FA) which have been discussed in the forum here. I left the existing Eibach rear springs in place.

 

 

This has raised the front to 370mm. The rear remains at 355mm. I am now happy with the result as it achieves two outcomes: first the front definitely has more clearance and is more practical to drive in everyday situations. Second it has removed the pronounced nose-down stance the vehicle had before and made it sit flatter overall (no more rear end sticking up). Handling changes are almost imperceptible at speed and slightly more compliant over speed humps at slow speed.

 

The gap between tyre and guard is now slightly wider on the front compared to the rear which may play with some people's OCD. But as you can see from the pic above, you really have to be a train spotter to notice and I happily take that given the vehicle now sits flatter in stance overall.

 

 As MartiniB states above, you can order separately rather than as a kit, and in hindsight I would have done that from the start.

 

When you say measured hub to guard, do you mean you have measured from the middle of the wheel (middle of the small centre cap) to the highest part of the wheel arch?

[fencer]

 

Yes, exactly that: a vertical axis from the hub centre to the bottom edge of the wheel arch guard. It is a more reliable way of measuring suspension height.

[Frankenfurter]

11 minutes ago, fencer said:

 

Yes, exactly that: a vertical axis from the hub centre to the bottom edge of the wheel arch guard. It is a more reliable way of measuring suspension height.

I couldn't resist the temptation to measure my 2017 206tsi wagon on stock springs. 370mm front and 365 rear. 370mm at the front is pretty safe. i can drive in and out of all sorts of crap driveways and not scrape.

[CRB123]

 

 

@Carlston & @Donweather Mine is a 4x4 Sportline hatch

 

This was what Eibach Aus sent me when I asked about whether everything was correct:

 

The ride heights you have on your vehicle are consistent and what is expected compared to the R&D heights as below.

 

I would not be suggesting lowering the rear as that may cause other issues but would rather suggest lifting the front slightly with an alternative front springs from the VAG range.

 

 

Before                                                                         After                                                                                                               

F385

F385

R380

R380

F350

F350

R355

R355

 

Have written back to 100% confirm that this model is correct tor the hatch. I did send them photos though.

Edited 5 December, 2022 by CRB123
double images

[MartiniB]

21 hours ago, JR RS said:

Weird why ur 220 dropped more with AWD springs.

R they AWD wagon version or AWD hatch version springs?

springs were ordered separately, not whole kit.

Eibach doesn't offer ZERO Lowering kits 😞, i were interested on add stiffness.

by part codes must be identical

front F11-85-043-02-FA (from Audi Q2)

rear F11-79-008-01-HA (from 4x4)

on rear i expected extra +10 mm to OEM DCC

as in this example, same rear springs on 2.0 FWD hatch

-> https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/478335-does-the-sportline-have-stiffer-suspension/?do=findComment&comment=5573227

 

but on rear got -12mm, acceptable, but why . .

 

[JR RS]

My 220 Superb with DCC, Eibach Pro-kit springs, and 245/40/19 tyres measures (top of wheel arch to centre hub) 345mm (front) and 340mm (rear).

 

Edited 6 December, 2022 by JR RS

[Donweather]

On 02/12/2022 at 15:48, Donweather said:

I could have sworn there was different rear springs for a hatch vs wagon to account for the issue the wagon would likely have more loaded weight.  Let me check what I have from Eibach.

 

I checked my parts before they were installed:

 

Eibach F11-79-012-04-22 Pro-Kit

Rear springs F11-79-008-01-HA

Front Springs F11-85-042-03-FA

 

The Eibach information I have doesn't distinguish between wagon or estate in the above, but I do note from the information I have that if your's isn't the 4*4 then you should have E10-79-012-03-22 (which has rears F11-79-008-01-HA and fronts F11-85-041-01-VA which are different).

 

Here's a pic of mine.  If you look closely you can see the gap in the wheel arch from the top of the tyre is less in the rear that the front.  It's a little harder to see the full gap due to the shadow, but you can see some difference.

 

 

 

So turns out my eye visuals aren't too far off.  Compared before (stock sportline springs with DCC) and after (Eibach pro for AWD wagon) measurements front and rear (measured both from ground to arch and hub centre to arch) are:

 

Fronts lowered 25mm

Rears lowered 30mm

[mruss5891]

Hi Folks,

 

Wonder if any of you can point me in the right direction....

 

I have a 2017 150 diesel Sportline, have recently replaced the shocks with B4 replacements. The car is at 60k, and the handling was becoming dangerous!! The shocks have now been fitted for ~600 miles, but the feel is not 100%. I had the alignment checked in the first instance... but it was just needing one minor adjustment to correct.

 

Feels like the car is not as planted as it should be, still bounces uncomfortably at slow speeds through town/rough roads. Country roads the car feels much better with the new shocks at 40-60 mph, through a rough bend is not such a concern anymore, the support is greatly improved....

 

The slow speed discomfort is now the issue... I feel my rear springs may need replaced. The crashy/unspottedness seems to be from the rear more than the front. Struggling to nail down how to confirm the springs I need. This seems like it would be the next step to try and improve the ride....

 

On a side note, I have fitted a towbar to the car when bought at 45k, so the rear has had more load for around 5/600 miles of the last 15k. Wouldn't have expected that to cause issues with the springs, but maybe the standard ones aren't capable enough of the extra load. (Although just occasional use - with a 1-1.5t trailer (60/70kg nose weight)) I note reading some posts with regards cars with factory towbar's possibly having uprated springs.

 

If anyone can point me in the right direction to confirm standard replacement springs, or alternatively a more suitable spring to compensate for the occasional towing? I don't believe I need a hugely stronger spring, as the car spends most of its time lightly loaded.... Just the 5/6 times away with family in the year full with gear (often with bikes on the towbar) and occasional towing single axle trailer at 1.5t max.

 

Many thanks for any help

Marc 

[Carlston]

29 minutes ago, mruss5891 said:

Hi Folks,

 

Wonder if any of you can point me in the right direction....

 

I have a 2017 150 diesel Sportline, have recently replaced the shocks with B4 replacements. The car is at 60k, and the handling was becoming dangerous!! The shocks have now been fitted for ~600 miles, but the feel is not 100%. I had the alignment checked in the first instance... but it was just needing one minor adjustment to correct.

 

Feels like the car is not as planted as it should be, still bounces uncomfortably at slow speeds through town/rough roads. Country roads the car feels much better with the new shocks at 40-60 mph, through a rough bend is not such a concern anymore, the support is greatly improved....

 

The slow speed discomfort is now the issue... I feel my rear springs may need replaced. The crashy/unspottedness seems to be from the rear more than the front. Struggling to nail down how to confirm the springs I need. This seems like it would be the next step to try and improve the ride....

 

On a side note, I have fitted a towbar to the car when bought at 45k, so the rear has had more load for around 5/600 miles of the last 15k. Wouldn't have expected that to cause issues with the springs, but maybe the standard ones aren't capable enough of the extra load. (Although just occasional use - with a 1-1.5t trailer (60/70kg nose weight)) I note reading some posts with regards cars with factory towbar's possibly having uprated springs.

 

If anyone can point me in the right direction to confirm standard replacement springs, or alternatively a more suitable spring to compensate for the occasional towing? I don't believe I need a hugely stronger spring, as the car spends most of its time lightly loaded.... Just the 5/6 times away with family in the year full with gear (often with bikes on the towbar) and occasional towing single axle trailer at 1.5t max.

 

Many thanks for any help

Marc 

 

If you get your car's build codes you should be able to work out what parts the car left the factory with, such as springs and shock absorbers.

 

There is an ebay seller that can supply these for about 3 Euros. Search "skoda vin decoder" on ebay.

 

search "skoda vin decoder" on ebay for your car's build codes

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224631127243

 

Here are some front springs from the Superb MK3 parts catalogue

1	5Q0411105HL	Coil spring 2 paint marks	brown	2	PR-L25
1	5Q0411105HM	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	brown Grey	2	PR-L26
1	5Q0411105HN	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	Grey yellow	2	PR-L27
1	5Q0411105HP	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	Grey orange	2	PR-L28
1	5Q0411105HQ	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	Grey red	2	PR-L29
1	5Q0411105HR	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	Grey violet	2	PR-L30
1	5Q0411105HS	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	Grey blue	2	PR-L31
1	5Q0411105HT	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	Grey green	2	PR-L32
1	5Q0411105DQ	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	yellow brown red	2	PR-L35
1	5Q0411105GF	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	blue orange	2	PR-L01
1	5Q0411105GG	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	blue red	2	PR-L02
1	5Q0411105GH	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	blue violet	2	PR-L03
1	5Q0411105GJ	Coil spring 2 paint marks	blue	2	PR-L04
1	5Q0411105GK	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	blue green	2	PR-L05
1	5Q0411105GL	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	blue brown	2	PR-L06
1	5Q0411105GM	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	blue Grey	2	PR-L07
1	5Q0411105GN	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	green white	2	PR-L08
1	5Q0411105GP	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	green yellow	2	PR-L09
1	5Q0411105GQ	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	green orange	2	PR-L10
1	5Q0411105GT	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	green blue	2	PR-L13
1	5Q0411105HA	Coil spring 2 paint marks	green	2	PR-L14
1	5Q0411105HB	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	green brown	2	PR-L15
1	3Q0411105	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	yellow red yellow	2	PR-L42
1	5Q0411105HC	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	green Grey	2	PR-L16
1	5Q0411105HD	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	brown white	2	PR-L17
1	5Q0411105HE	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	brown yellow	2	PR-L18
1	5Q0411105HF	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	brown orange	2	PR-L19
1	5Q0411105HG	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark		2	PR-L20

 

Here are some front shock absorbers from the Superb MK3 parts catalogue

8	3Q0413031BG	Gas shock absorber D >> - 29.07.2018		2	PR-G01
8	3Q0413031CR	Gas shock absorber D - 30.07.2018>>		2	PR-G01,G02
8	3Q0413031BF	Gas shock absorber D >> - 29.07.2018		2	PR-G01
8	3Q0413031CQ	Gas shock absorber D - 30.07.2018>>		2	PR-G01
8	3Q0413031BG	Gas shock absorber D >> - 29.07.2018		2	PR-G02
8	3Q0413031CR	Gas shock absorber D - 30.07.2018>>		2	PR-G01,G02
8	3Q0413031BF	Gas shock absorber D >> - 29.07.2018		2	PR-G02
8	3Q0413031CQ	Gas shock absorber D - 30.07.2018>>		2	PR-G02
8	3Q0413031BJ	Gas shock absorber D >> - 29.07.2018		2	PR-G03
8	3Q0413031CT	Gas shock absorber D - 30.07.2018>>		2	PR-G03
8	3Q0413031BH	Gas shock absorber D >> - 29.07.2018		2	PR-G03
8	3Q0413031CS	Gas shock absorber D - 30.07.2018>>		2	PR-G03

 

Here are some rear springs from the Superb MK3 parts catalogue

1	3Q0511115AH	Coil spring		2	PR-1JA+0YA
1	3Q0511115AJ	Coil spring		2	PR-1JA+0YB
1	3Q0511115AK	Coil spring		2	PR-1JA+0YC
1	3Q0511115AL	Coil spring		2	PR-1JA+0YD
1	3Q0511115M	Coil spring		2	PR-1JA+0YE
1	3Q0511115N	Coil spring		2	PR-1JA+0YF
1	3Q0511115P	Coil spring		2	PR-1JA+0YG
1	3Q0511115Q	Coil spring		2	PR-1JA+0YH
1	3Q0511115R	Coil spring		2	PR-1JA+0YJ
1	3Q0511115BC	Coil spring		2	PR-1JA+0YK
1	3Q0511115S	Coil spring		2	PR-1JC+0YA
1	3Q0511115T	Coil spring		2	PR-1JC+0YB
1	3Q0511115AA	Coil spring		2	PR-1JC+0YC
1	3Q0511115AB	Coil spring		2	PR-1JC+0YD
1	3Q0511115AC	Coil spring		2	PR-1JC+0YE
1	3Q0511115AD	Coil spring		2	PR-1JC+0YF
1	3Q0511115BH	Coil spring		2	PR-1JC+0YG
1	3Q0511115AE	Coil spring		2	PR-1JC+0YH
1	3Q0511115AF	Coil spring		2	PR-1JC+0YJ
1	3Q0511115AG	Coil spring		2	PR-1JC+0YK
1	3Q0511115BD	Coil spring		2	PR-1JC+0YL
1	3Q0511115BG	Coil spring		2	PR-UC7+0YA
1	3Q0511115AN	Coil spring		2	PR-UC7+0YB
1	3Q0511115AP	Coil spring		2	PR-UC7+0YC
1	3Q0511115AQ	Coil spring		2	PR-UC7+0YD
1	3Q0511115AR	Coil spring		2	PR-UC7+0YE
1	3Q0511115AS	Coil spring		2	PR-UC7+0YF
1	3Q0511115AT	Coil spring		2	PR-UC7+0YG
1	3Q0511115BA	Coil spring		2	PR-UC7+0YH
1	3Q0511115BB	Coil spring		2	PR-UC7+0YJ
1	3Q0511115BE	Coil spring		2	PR-UC7+0YK

 

Here are some rear shock absorbers from the Superb MK3 parts catalogue

7	3Q0513049FP	Gas shock absorber	rear	2	PR-1JA
7	3Q0513049FN	Gas shock absorber	rear	2	PR-1JA
7	3Q0513049FP	Gas shock absorber	rear	2	PR-1JC
7	3Q0513049FN	Gas shock absorber	rear	2	PR-1JC
7	3Q0513049FT	Gas shock absorber	rear	2	PR-UC7

 

VW codes decoder

1JA = Rear shock absorption, basic design 1
1JC = Rear shock absorption for sports design
UC7 = Rear shock absorption, chassis with increased ride height

http://igorweb.org/equidec.aspx

 

Edited 21 December, 2022 by Carlston

[Carlston]

Which Bilstein B4 front shock absorbers did you fit?

 

You may have accidentally fitted front shock absorbers for increased ride height, which is the complete opposite of what you want for the sportline with its presumably lowered ride height.

 

To avoid this kind of mistake, it's important to match the OEM part number of your factory shock absorbers with the list of OEM part numbers that the particular Bilstein B4 shock absorber is sold to replace.

 

Edited 21 December, 2022 by Carlston

[mruss5891]

8 hours ago, Carlston said:

Which Bilstein B4 front shock absorbers did you fit?

 

You may have accidentally fitted front shock absorbers for increased ride height, which is the complete opposite of what you want for the sportline with its presumably lowered ride height.

 

To avoid this kind of mistake, it's important to match the OEM part number of your factory shock absorbers with the list of OEM part numbers that the particular Bilstein B4 shock absorber is sold to replace.

 

thanks @Carlston, for the detailed response. I’ve purchased a vin decoder.. so see what that comes back with. Assume this is more info than the sticker in the boot?

 

regards the B4 shocks, I have read your post within this thread on this… last night before posting my query today. The shocks I purchased are the only B4 standard shocks offered on Bilsteins website….

 

 

so, once I have the info to identify standard shocks, I will review the post you had up. Bit worried/confused why Bilstein wouldn’t offer the Passat shocks you identified as a fitment against the superb. Looking like this is going to be a costly issue if it is the shocks that are an issue /mis-fitment…

 

I checked these shocks against Bilstein, autodoc, and a post on the forum that stated them as a fitment for the superb…. 
 

I’ll update post with anything found out… resolution for my dodgy handling… 🙈 fitting B4’s was supposed to be the more cost efficient/sensible ‘it’s just a box for getting A to B’  option, rather than paying twice the price for B6’s or konis! 
 

 

 

[Carlston]

The Bilstein B4 front 22-232342 and rear 19-232362 shock absorbers that you list are the only Bilstein B4 shock absorbers that are listed on autodoc that cover some of the OEM part numbers for the Superb MK3 FWD without electronic suspension control.

 

I don't know if you have a white sticker/label under the carpet in the spare wheel well area, because someone suggested that Skoda stopped doing this around 2015/16 model years. Howver, that not be totally accurate information. The white label only includes some of the build codes, perhaps around 40 of them. The actual number of build codes is much higher, perhaps around 140.

 

When you get all your build codes, I find it useful to sort them into alphanumerical order.

 

To determine your front springs, you are looking for a build code between L01 and L35.

 

To determine your front shock absorbers, you are looking for build code G01 or G02 or G03.

 

To determine your rear springs, you are looking for a build code between 0YA and 0YL, and whether you have build code 1JA or 1JC or UC7.

 

To determine your rear shock absorbers, you are looking for build code 1JA or 1JC or UC7.

 

Edited 21 December, 2022 by Carlston

[mruss5891]

17 hours ago, Carlston said:

The Bilstein B4 front 22-232342 and rear 19-232362 shock absorbers that you list are the only Bilstein B4 shock absorbers that are listed on autodoc that cover some of the OEM part numbers for the Superb MK3 FWD without electronic suspension control.

 

I don't know if you have a white sticker/label under the carpet in the spare wheel well area, because someone suggested that Skoda stopped doing this around 2015/16 model years. Howver, that not be totally accurate information. The white label only includes some of the build codes, perhaps around 40 of them. The actual number of build codes is much higher, perhaps around 140.

 

When you get all your build codes, I find it useful to sort them into alphanumerical order.

 

To determine your front springs, you are looking for a build code between L01 and L35.

 

To determine your front shock absorbers, you are looking for build code G01 or G02 or G03.

 

To determine your rear springs, you are looking for a build code between 0YA and 0YL, and whether you have build code 1JA or 1JC or UC7.

 

To determine your rear shock absorbers, you are looking for build code 1JA or 1JC or UC7.

 

 

Thanks Carlston,

 

I got all my build codes last night, yeah significantly more than the sticker has in the boot. Too add to that, my 2017 car does have a sticker in the boot (it's a 09/16 build). I managed to decode between my build code and the original long list of part codes you posted first that I have....

 

5Q0411105HD	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	brown white		2	PR-L17
3Q0413031BG	Gas shock absorber D >> - 29.07.2018			2	PR-G02

3Q0511115T

Coil spring

2

PR-1JC+0YB

 

3Q0513049FP	Gas shock absorber		rear		2		PR-1JC
3Q0513049FN		Gas shock absorber		rear		2		PR-1JC

 

Guessing the rear shocks can be either of the 2 part no.s... I've started a communication with Bilstein, hopefully they will come back to me asap. With a confirmation of these B4's not been suitable, and a better recommendation if required...

 

In the meantime, going to review old shocks & try and find paint mark/numbers on springs to confirm all of these...

 

Cheers.

[Carlston]

3 hours ago, mruss5891 said:

 

Thanks Carlston,

 

I got all my build codes last night, yeah significantly more than the sticker has in the boot. Too add to that, my 2017 car does have a sticker in the boot (it's a 09/16 build). I managed to decode between my build code and the original long list of part codes you posted first that I have....

 

5Q0411105HD	Coil spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark	brown white		2	PR-L17
3Q0413031BG	Gas shock absorber D >> - 29.07.2018			2	PR-G02

3Q0511115T

Coil spring

2

PR-1JC+0YB

 

3Q0513049FP	Gas shock absorber		rear		2		PR-1JC
3Q0513049FN		Gas shock absorber		rear		2		PR-1JC

 

Guessing the rear shocks can be either of the 2 part no.s... I've started a communication with Bilstein, hopefully they will come back to me asap. With a confirmation of these B4's not been suitable, and a better recommendation if required...

 

In the meantime, going to review old shocks & try and find paint mark/numbers on springs to confirm all of these...

 

Cheers.

 

Yes, the rear shock absorbers could be either 3Q0513049FN or 3Q0513049FP. The KYB and Sachs rear shock absorbers listed on autodoc cover both of these OEM part numbers, so if you were going for these aftermarket shock absorbers it wouldn't matter which OEM part number your car originally came with out of those two OEM part numbers.

 

The rear Bilstein shock absorbers that you purchased are only listed against the increased ride height part number, which is the complete opposite of the sports/lowered ride height that you have. Saying that, many of the rear aftermarket shock absorbers use a one size fits all approach, so sell just one rear shock absorber to cover sports/lowered suspension, standard ride height suspension, and increased ride height suspension (sometime called off-road suspension and/or heavy-duty suspension).

 

Anyhow, because of this discrepancy with the Bilstein rear shock absorbers, I would have probably gone for either Sachs or KYB rear shock absorbers. The Sachs and KYB are both sold to replace all three OEM part numbers. Maybe the Bilstein will be fine with all three ride heights, but maybe not.

 

Rear shock absorbers for Superb MK3 FWD

7	3Q0513049FP	Gas shock absorber	rear	2	PR-1JA
7	3Q0513049FN	Gas shock absorber	rear	2	PR-1JA
7	3Q0513049FP	Gas shock absorber	rear	2	PR-1JC
7	3Q0513049FN	Gas shock absorber	rear	2	PR-1JC
7	3Q0513049FT	Gas shock absorber	rear	2	PR-UC7

 

Edited 22 December, 2022 by Carlston

[Carlston]

Kilen and KYB list these springs for the standard ride height Superb MK3 2.0TDI 150HP hatchback.

 

5Q0411105GM Kilen 25117, KYB RA1089

1

5Q0411105GM

Front Coil Spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark

Blue Grey

2

PR-L07

Wire diameter 12.25mm, Length 315mm, Weight 1.7kg (specification taken from gknautomotive.com)

3Q0511115AK Kilen 65124, KYB RA5330

1

3Q0511115AK

Rear Coil Spring

2

PR-1JA+0YC

Wire diameter 12.25mm, Length 364mm, Weight 2.2kg (specification taken from gknautomotive.com)

 

Your sports/lowered ride height springs

5Q0411105HD

1

5Q0411105HD

Front Coil Spring 1 paint mark 1 paint mark

brown white

2

PR-L17

Wire diameter 12.25mm, Length 284mm, Weight 1.7kg (specification taken from gknautomotive.com)

3Q0511115T

1

3Q0511115T

Rear Coil Spring

2

PR-1JC+0YB

Wire diameter 12.75mm, Length 324mm (specification taken from eibach and includes 3Q0511115AA which is one weight range higher, so actual 3Q0511115T is probably a slightly lighter spring than this perhaps having a wire diameter of between 12.25mm and 12.5mm)

 

With aftermarket springs, there tends to be much less choice of sports/lowered springs with many OEM part numbers not available. This is one reason for sticking to or changing to standard ride height springs if you like to replace your old broken springs with aftermarket springs. Plus of course, standard ride height springs tend to give a softer and more comfortable ride. Not forgetting the increased ride height and improved ground clearance.

 

https://www.kilensprings.com/springs-catalouges/onlinecatalogue.asp

https://kyb-europe.com/catalogue/

https://www.gknautomotive.com/

 

Edited 22 December, 2022 by Carlston

[mruss5891]

Well heard back from Bilstein this last couple of days… 

 

 

strange response, I’m sure there has to be a few people on here with sportline model that have fitted B6’s or B8’s… I’m lost as what direction to head in… approaching the supplier of the shocks appears like a poss non-starter especially as they are advertised on Bilstein as fitting all models!

 

my current plan is to see if I can find a matching set of OE shocks from a Passat, or something else similar as a possible way to matching up to a more suitable set of B4’s. 

[mruss5891]

36 minutes ago, mruss5891 said:

Well heard back from Bilstein this last couple of days… 

 

 

strange response, I’m sure there has to be a few people on here with sportline model that have fitted B6’s or B8’s… I’m lost as what direction to head in… approaching the supplier of the shocks appears like a poss non-starter especially as they are advertised on Bilstein as fitting all models!

 

my current plan is to see if I can find a matching set of OE shocks from a Passat, or something else similar as a possible way to matching up to a more suitable set of B4’s. 

Although can get a set of 4 KYB’s that match OEM numbers for less than £200 on eBay with discount code just now… not sure how KYB compare to Bilstein.. been my go to for replacements the last few cars… 

[Gabrielem]

42 minutes ago, mruss5891 said:

Bien escuchado de Bilstein estos últimos días... 

 

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respuesta extraña, estoy seguro de que tiene que haber algunas personas aquí con un modelo sportline que se ha ajustado a B6 o B8 ... No sé en qué dirección dirigirme ... acercarse al proveedor de los amortiguadores parece una posibilidad imposible. ¡especialmente porque se anuncian en Bilstein como aptos para todos los modelos!

 

mi plan actual es ver si puedo encontrar un juego de amortiguadores OE de un Passat, o algo similar como una forma posible de combinar con un juego de B4 más adecuado. 

I did not complicate myself and put Sachs biturbo and run.  They are very similar to the B4 or even better.